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JP Chestnut · 14 May 2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Give Rolex some time and I think you'll see a titanium case and eventually a ceramic one, too.

How long do they need? The IWC Ocean 2000 was released in 1984. I'd expect that 30 years of Ti watch production should be enough for Rolex to get on board if they were going to.

ecsub44 · 14 May 2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

How long do they need? The IWC Ocean 2000 was released in 1984. I'd expect that 30 years of Ti watch production should be enough for Rolex to get on board if they were going to.

Rolex will jump on board when the market forces them to. Just like larger watches, new fangled complex bracelets, and ceramic bezels...Rolex had to play to the market demands.

It's not a technology thing...it's a money thing.

The Prodigy · 14 May 2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Not seen Omega in Ti but others I have seen, do not have the substantial weight of the 904L and just don't have that SS shine that Rolex is known for.I agree Ti is a more expensive material than SS but it always has that dull gray luster to it that I don't care for ...

I completely agree.

This gray, lackluster, dull, cheap, 145gr heavy watch of grade 5 scratch resistant titanium with a ceramic bezel and additional liquidmetal coating is really nothing but boring.

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Wait, what?

P.S. Really sorry for this amount of pictures, but sometimes you need more than words.

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TonyD · 14 May 2013, 09:37 AM

Titanium is a HORRIBLE material for watches.

VERY soft material that scratches very easy
Difficult to machine
Difficult to polish, normally gets bead blasted, so you can't touch it up at home
Grey color is open for debate

Its only useful where you need low weight/density and some strength.

Rashid.bk · 14 May 2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyD

Titanium is a HORRIBLE material for watches.

VERY soft material that scratches very easy
Difficult to machine
Difficult to polish, normally gets bead blasted, so you can't touch it up at home
Grey color is open for debate

Its only useful where you need low weight/density and some strength.

^Clearly a HORRIBLE opinion on material for watches.

Mystro · 14 May 2013, 11:16 AM

I have had several Ti watches, they are easy to clean and polish marks out of, much like gold. They are also great for people with sensitive skin. Rolex is not innovators any more so they probaly will come aound to a Ti watch in another 10 years.

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Originally Posted by TonyD

Titanium is a HORRIBLE material for watches.

VERY soft material that scratches very easy
Difficult to machine
Difficult to polish, normally gets bead blasted, so you can't touch it up at home
Grey color is open for debate

Its only useful where you need low weight/density and some strength.

cedargrove · 14 May 2013, 11:32 AM

I've read a lot about the dull colour and finish, and other negatives, of titanium.

Then I tried on the Omega PO Ti and thought "what the heck are all these people talking about?" In fact I loved it so much I bought it then and there. The light weight made the 45mm x 17mm possible for me (lighter than my GMTc). The finish is awesome (both brushed and polished areas) and I see nothing wrong with the colour (can't distinguish it from steel). As for scratch resistance, not a single desk diving swirl after a month of wearing (couldn't say the same about any other watch).

Maybe Omega's grade 5 is superior to what most others have seen? I know I am a Titanium convert.

daytona675 · 14 May 2013, 12:26 PM

Rolex does use titanium in one of their watches - the Seadweller 16610 (and other SD models possibly). The HEV is made of titanium which gives it the dark grey look compared to the rest of the case.

Shade · 14 May 2013, 12:34 PM

Titanium would be much lighter to wear, and "feels cheaper".

Although they are also softer, and harder to polish/buff out without proper polishing tools.

427shark · 14 May 2013, 12:51 PM

Citizen makes some watches out of ion plate titanium which is supposedly four times harder then titanium. I feel like if rolex did come out with a titanium watch they would come up with some proprietary alloy that would be even tougher..... I do like the understated tool look of titanium for some watches. I will admit do like the weight of ss

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 12:55 PM

The insert on that Omega sure loooks very nice but I bet the resale value of the watch sucks!

Steve-O25 · 14 May 2013, 12:57 PM

I've worn a Ti SMP for years and I love everything about the metal. I think that Rolex is missing the boat on their sports models. After wearing my gold DJ, I pick up the Omega and nearly throw it at the ceiling it's so light. Ti is low profile, bomb proof, and cool.

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 12:59 PM

Why move to titanium? Are people complaining about the weight of SS watches?
OR complaining that their watches' structures are too weak?

It is an expensive metal and there is no reason to increase costs unless you are getting
something of value in return ... With Ti, you are not getting anything special in return except for a lighter weight
that many will object to and tremendous tensile strength which is not needed unless one wants to use their
watch as a shackle or carabiner to tow a truck or uproot a tree in their backyard ....
and that bead blasted gray is so abominable... but in return you do get that ability to self heal minor
surface scratches that SS lacks.

427shark · 14 May 2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Why move to titanium? Are people complaining about the weight of SS watches?
OR complaining that their watches' structures are too weak?

It is an expensive metal and there is no reason to increase costs unless you are getting
something of value in return ... With Ti, you are not getting anything special in return except for a lighter weight
that many will object to and tremendous tensile strength which is not needed unless one wants to use their
watch as a shackle or carabiner to tow a truck or uproot a tree in their backyard ....
and that bead blasted gray is so abominable... but in return you do get that ability to self heal minor
surface scratches that SS lacks.

Realistically other than preference on how it looks I think the biggest plus to some people is the light weight. Personally I like the weight of ss

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 427shark

Realistically other than preference on how it looks I think the biggest plus to some people is the light weight. Personally I like the weight of ss

For me, if the weight becomes too lightweight for a watch, then it turns me off. I like to have heft to my watches. Every single ounce that a Rolex weighs, there is a reason for it and Rolex has allowed it. It is not there to make us feel good or make their watches feel heavier. There is a technical reason for it. Weight makes me feel good and when I pick up my Rolex, I don't want it to feel like a g-shock.

Baco Noir · 14 May 2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Another one....

For sh_ts and giggles, walk into an Omega showroom on your free time and look at an Omega LM Ti. I think you will change opinions on aesthetics.
I felt the same until I saw that thing in the flesh, If Omega can make such a beautiful watch, I'm sure Rolex can also.

I totally agree. The Ti Omega PO is beautiful and has me thinking about flipping my SD for one. I also have a Breitling Aerospace and a Helson Ti Sharkdiver. I for one find the non-shiny finish quite beautiful.

Steve-O25 · 14 May 2013, 03:08 PM

Here's an argument for Ti. Has anyone ever seen a faked Ti? Machining Titanium is a specialty and it's doubtful that you'll see a counterfeit.

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellowdog

I totally agree. The Ti Omega PO is beautiful and has me thinking about flipping my SD for one. ....

It might be a beautiful watch but flipping an SD to get it, you really must love the Omega...Your SD is technically and aesthetically way superior...

Wacker23 · 14 May 2013, 09:58 PM

I would love to have a titanium sub. I hope they keep it the same size too.

The Prodigy · 14 May 2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RolexDivers

It might be a beautiful watch but flipping an SD to get it, you really must love the Omega...Your SD is technically and aesthetically way superior...

Can you give me some details on why they are way superior?

427shark · 14 May 2013, 11:22 PM

That omega is gorgeous, I find myself always going back to this thread to look at it

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by daytona675

Rolex does use titanium in one of their watches - the Seadweller 16610 (and other SD models possibly). The HEV is made of titanium which gives it the dark grey look compared to the rest of the case.

You mean the Seadweller 16600

Americandave · 14 May 2013, 11:55 PM

Would this new watch be called a Tilex?

RolexDivers · 14 May 2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Prodigy

Can you give me some details on why they are way superior?

Well first of al, your Omega can go 2000ft deep ... the SD goes double that. In diving watches, a deeper going dive watch is a better
engineered dive watch because of what it take to withstand water pressure... If you bring a g-shock that can go 5,000ft deep, then
it is a better engineered watch than the SD....

In house 3135 is another reason. I don't know what Omega uses.

Lots of other design features ...you have to refer to official tech specs and compare the two. The world doesn't sing the praises for
the SD for nothing.

Not to mention its history and why the SD was created in the first place...
Last but not least, it is a ROLEX .... the resale and constant rise in value, year after year is guaranteed.

mrhy · 15 May 2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SWISSAHOLICS

Happy Monday my friends

Hope you all had a wonderful weekend!! Just had a question that came to mind and if there is a thread on this earlier, please accept my apology.

Why has Rolex never come out with Titanium models? For a company with such rich history, I am sure they must have done research about this topic. Is it something to do with durability? Or perhaps certain watch parts don't function well with titanium metal? I am just throwing out ideas but would be curious to know what could be the reason.

Thanks guys!!

Not a big fan of Ti in watches.Dropped my Ti IWC chrono and it was a real hassle getting it polished.Now my Ti bicycle might be the most comfortable ride there is.

JP Chestnut · 15 May 2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daytona675

Rolex does use titanium in one of their watches - the Seadweller 16610 (and other SD models possibly). The HEV is made of titanium which gives it the dark grey look compared to the rest of the case.

16610 is the Ref number of the standard (old) Sub.

JP Chestnut · 15 May 2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexDivers

The insert on that Omega sure loooks very nice but I bet the resale value of the watch sucks!

I know, selling above retail is total shit.

JP Chestnut · 15 May 2013, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Prodigy

Can you give me some details on why they are way superior?

Because one has the word "Rolex" on the dial and the other doesn't.

ejj · 15 May 2013, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Well first of al, your Omega can go 2000ft deep ... the SD goes double that. In diving watches, a deeper going dive watch is a better
engineered dive watch because of what it take to withstand water pressure... If you bring a g-shock that can go 5,000ft deep, then
it is a better engineered watch than the SD....

In house 3135 is another reason. I don't know what Omega uses.

Lots of other design features ...you have to refer to official tech specs and compare the two. The world doesn't sing the praises for
the SD for nothing.

Not to mention its history and why the SD was created in the first place...
Last but not least, it is a ROLEX .... the resale and constant rise in value, year after year is guaranteed.

While the SD is a great watch, I think you too emotionally attached and might be selling the PO short.

RolexDivers · 15 May 2013, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Because one has the word "Rolex" on the dial and the other doesn't.

HA HA HA!!!

14 May 2013, 09:37 AM	#34
TonyD 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Boston North Watch: Meteorite Daytona Posts: 1,471	Titanium is a HORRIBLE material for watches. VERY soft material that scratches very easy Difficult to machine Difficult to polish, normally gets bead blasted, so you can't touch it up at home Grey color is open for debate Its only useful where you need low weight/density and some strength. __________________ Pepsi GMT/SD43/DSSD Blue/ DJ41 TT Rose Diamond Dial/ Daytona Meteorite/ SS Sky Dweller White Dial/ IWC Bronze Big Pilot/ Aquanautic Super King / Omega Ploprof 1200 / Graham Scarab Diver

14 May 2013, 12:34 PM	#39
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	Titanium would be much lighter to wear, and "feels cheaper". Although they are also softer, and harder to polish/buff out without proper polishing tools. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

14 May 2013, 12:51 PM	#40
427shark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: JD Location: Jersey Watch: Dj2 tt, 126610LV Posts: 772	Citizen makes some watches out of ion plate titanium which is supposedly four times harder then titanium. I feel like if rolex did come out with a titanium watch they would come up with some proprietary alloy that would be even tougher..... I do like the understated tool look of titanium for some watches. I will admit do like the weight of ss __________________ It's not easy being green

14 May 2013, 12:57 PM	#42
Steve-O25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Colorado USA Watch: Rolex DateJust 18K Posts: 91	I've worn a Ti SMP for years and I love everything about the metal. I think that Rolex is missing the boat on their sports models. After wearing my gold DJ, I pick up the Omega and nearly throw it at the ceiling it's so light. Ti is low profile, bomb proof, and cool. Attached Images

14 May 2013, 11:22 PM	#51
427shark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: JD Location: Jersey Watch: Dj2 tt, 126610LV Posts: 772	That omega is gorgeous, I find myself always going back to this thread to look at it __________________ It's not easy being green

14 May 2013, 11:32 AM	#37
cedargrove "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rich Location: Canada Watch: Milgauss, GMT IIc Posts: 3,013	I've read a lot about the dull colour and finish, and other negatives, of titanium. Then I tried on the Omega PO Ti and thought "what the heck are all these people talking about?" In fact I loved it so much I bought it then and there. The light weight made the 45mm x 17mm possible for me (lighter than my GMTc). The finish is awesome (both brushed and polished areas) and I see nothing wrong with the colour (can't distinguish it from steel). As for scratch resistance, not a single desk diving swirl after a month of wearing (couldn't say the same about any other watch). Maybe Omega's grade 5 is superior to what most others have seen? I know I am a Titanium convert.

14 May 2013, 12:26 PM	#38
daytona675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 17	Rolex does use titanium in one of their watches - the Seadweller 16610 (and other SD models possibly). The HEV is made of titanium which gives it the dark grey look compared to the rest of the case.

14 May 2013, 12:55 PM	#41
RolexDivers Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: BIG BEAR, CA Posts: 1,468	The insert on that Omega sure loooks very nice but I bet the resale value of the watch sucks!

14 May 2013, 12:59 PM	#43
RolexDivers Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: BIG BEAR, CA Posts: 1,468	Why move to titanium? Are people complaining about the weight of SS watches? OR complaining that their watches' structures are too weak? It is an expensive metal and there is no reason to increase costs unless you are getting something of value in return ... With Ti, you are not getting anything special in return except for a lighter weight that many will object to and tremendous tensile strength which is not needed unless one wants to use their watch as a shackle or carabiner to tow a truck or uproot a tree in their backyard .... and that bead blasted gray is so abominable... but in return you do get that ability to self heal minor surface scratches that SS lacks.

14 May 2013, 03:08 PM	#47
Steve-O25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Colorado USA Watch: Rolex DateJust 18K Posts: 91	Here's an argument for Ti. Has anyone ever seen a faked Ti? Machining Titanium is a specialty and it's doubtful that you'll see a counterfeit.

14 May 2013, 09:58 PM	#49
Wacker23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn ny Watch: Rolex sub Posts: 504	I would love to have a titanium sub. I hope they keep it the same size too.

14 May 2013, 11:55 PM	#53
Americandave "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 72	Would this new watch be called a Tilex?

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