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JohnFM · 30 May 2013, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Either you want a chronograph or you don't.

I always have to shake my head when someone asks which watch to buy when they differ so radically in function.

You're right Grady -- I shake my head at myself for considering these pretty different watches! Of course, what I really want is a Patek 5296R-010. But that's another story:

http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5296R_010.html

To give you all a bit more information about my decision:

I already own a 16600 Sub and 16610 Dweller ... so the 14060M is utterly superfluous. I just like its clean dial and lighter weight. I respect the Sea Dweller but find it a little chunky for everyday wear. The 16610 without cyclops (had a Daytona bezel installed) is pretty much the perfect watch. But the no-date is marginally smaller and that much simpler. Doesn't make much sense to add another Sub, I know, but this is the Rolex forum so I'm not alone with this obsession, right?

The 39mm Explorer probably looks the best on me -- perfect size. I tried it on along with a 114060 and everyone in the store said, "The new Sub is great but get the Explorer -- it looks better on your wrist".

The Speedmaster is appealing (to me) because of the domed Hesalite (acrylic) crystal, symmetrical dial, hand winding, and iconic Moon status. I could care less about the chrono function, to be honest, but the watch is so different from what I own and retro that I find it appealing.

Leaning toward the Speedmaster at the moment. Would pick the Sub if I didn't own two ;-) Would pick the Explorer 1 if the minute hand were a little longer and the 3, 6, and 9 had Superluminova like on the 36mm version.

Maybe I know the answer to my own question. It's just fun to consider options. If anyone wants to trade straight up for the Patek that would be great too ;-)

John

Aspirin · 30 May 2013, 12:50 PM

Rolex Explorer 1 214270 (new) >>> grand new, get this one!
Rolex 14060M (mint pre-owned) >>> Iconic, but preowned!!!
Omega Speedmaster 3570.50 (new) >>> give it up!

underdog33 · 30 May 2013, 12:51 PM

All are great watches. Since you already have the SD, I'd go with the Speedmaster. It's a beautiful watch and I personally enjoy winding it every morning.

warrior · 30 May 2013, 01:31 PM

speedmaster...for the reasons you cite. You already own a sd/rolex. Diversify! Why not get the most unique and cool looking watch of the bunch??? Like you, I love the domed hesalite crystal, symmetry, and retro vibe of the iconic speedmaster.

jshepard · 30 May 2013, 01:32 PM

I have both explorer I 39mm & Speedy pro. In terms for versatility I'd go Explorer I. For historical significance, I'd go Speedmaster Pro.

votoms · 30 May 2013, 03:48 PM

Speedy Pro, I had always wanted a Explorer I 39mm until I tried one on. It is a little plain for my taste. I have a Speedy Pro and love it, albeit it doesn't see alot of wrist time. Your thread made me walk over to the safe and pull it out. All wound up ready for desk duty tomorrow.

SaddleSC · 30 May 2013, 03:53 PM

Speedmaster Pro

superdog · 30 May 2013, 10:32 PM

Shocked at the overwhelming response for the speedy.

But I agree. Not just in theory either, as I plan on picking one up soon

I also love the fact that I rarely see then in the wild, whereas I feel like rolex is as common as squirrels these days. They are everywhere.

floater156 · 30 May 2013, 11:21 PM

1) ExpII
2) Omega
3) 16610

agsstructures · 30 May 2013, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdog

Shocked at the overwhelming response for the speedy.

But I agree. Not just in theory either, as I plan on picking one up soon

I also love the fact that I rarely see then in the wild, whereas I feel like rolex is as common as squirrels these days. They are everywhere.

I am also quite suprised being that it was posted in the Rolex section. You are right about never seeing them, although in Manhattan I was suprised at the amount I do see. It is a watch show walking around the streets daily here but as far as the Speedy I have seen quite a few since moving here. Check out the 3573 (sapphire crystal with clear back), you will fall in love!

cgjane · 31 May 2013, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2fly

x 2

this.

I have had the SD, 14060 and Speedy. Guess which one I have left...

TimeOnMyHands · 31 May 2013, 12:22 AM

36mm Explorer by a mile...

AH0RSEY · 31 May 2013, 12:27 AM

Count out the Sub if you've an SD and the chrono is too busy on the Speedy IMHO. Explorer for me but I'd hunt around for preowned EXPII (42mm) the strap, lume and 2nd zone are all better than EXP39.....

Billywiz · 31 May 2013, 02:00 PM

explorer...

travisb · 31 May 2013, 06:53 PM

On pics alone, the Exp I looks perfect on you.

I love the Speedy too but Exp gets the edge for me.

nameIess · 31 May 2013, 08:33 PM

This particular Omega model does not match my taste and I would avoid it even if I was comparing it to Casio G models. I would go with the Sub and it looks really good on your wrist however it is not new and I personally prefer to buy my watches new. The explorer looks good on you as well and If I was in your position I would choose it.

dvdwyn · 31 May 2013, 09:49 PM

explorer 1 win hands down

Rags · 31 May 2013, 10:45 PM

If you can only have one I'd go with either the explorer or the sub with the explorer being my 1st choice.

Andrés G · 31 May 2013, 10:53 PM

Get the Speedmaster.

Ramiks · 31 May 2013, 11:02 PM

14060 & Speedmaster are icons and classic and both should be there in a collection imho.
however if i have to pick one then 14060, but i ll keep thinking of that lemania movement ;)

JohnFM · 1 June 2013, 12:16 AM

Thanks for all the input everyone. By the way, the photos I posted initially are not of the three watches on my wrist -- just pulled from the Internet for reference.

John

brlay · 1 June 2013, 12:17 AM

I say the Explorer

petenyc · 1 June 2013, 12:18 AM

speedmaster

Mike_Templar · 2 June 2013, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFM

You're right Grady -- I shake my head at myself for considering these pretty different watches! Of course, what I really want is a Patek 5296R-010. But that's another story:

http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5296R_010.html

To give you all a bit more information about my decision:

I already own a 16600 Sub and 16610 Dweller ... so the 14060M is utterly superfluous. I just like its clean dial and lighter weight. I respect the Sea Dweller but find it a little chunky for everyday wear. The 16610 without cyclops (had a Daytona bezel installed) is pretty much the perfect watch. But the no-date is marginally smaller and that much simpler. Doesn't make much sense to add another Sub, I know, but this is the Rolex forum so I'm not alone with this obsession, right?

The 39mm Explorer probably looks the best on me -- perfect size. I tried it on along with a 114060 and everyone in the store said, "The new Sub is great but get the Explorer -- it looks better on your wrist".

The Speedmaster is appealing (to me) because of the domed Hesalite (acrylic) crystal, symmetrical dial, hand winding, and iconic Moon status. I could care less about the chrono function, to be honest, but the watch is so different from what I own and retro that I find it appealing.

Leaning toward the Speedmaster at the moment. Would pick the Sub if I didn't own two ;-) Would pick the Explorer 1 if the minute hand were a little longer and the 3, 6, and 9 had Superluminova like on the 36mm version.

Maybe I know the answer to my own question. It's just fun to consider options. If anyone wants to trade straight up for the Patek that would be great too ;-)

John

The "short hand" on the 39mm 214270 is not an issue, only in pictures.
I wear it every day and have never once thought anything of it.
In fact, were it not all over this forum, I would have never even thought
about it. It's a very strange thing, kind of like a person who looks bad
in pictures. I love the watch, and I also love the 3570.50.

joe100 · 2 June 2013, 01:25 PM

Speedmaster of course

BoomerSooner · 2 June 2013, 01:29 PM

Explorer

HRFdez · 2 June 2013, 01:30 PM

I like the Explorer.

GradyPhilpott · 2 June 2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFM

You're right Grady -- I shake my head at myself for considering these pretty different watches! Of course, what I really want is a Patek 5296R-010. But that's another story:

http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5296R_010.html

I lust after that watch, too, but in WG.

If that's the look you're going for, then I think that the 114270 is a good choice, because it looks as dressy as a DJ, but without the cyclops, and the hands and dial give it a sporty look, too.

If you aren't interested in chronograph functions, then I'd put the Speedy on the back burner.

GradyPhilpott · 2 June 2013, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Templar

The "short hand" on the 39mm 214270 is not an issue, only in pictures.

I agree. In some ways macro-photography has not been kind to the watch industry.

cop414 · 2 June 2013, 01:57 PM

Wow, three great choices, also three that are on my to get list... but my pick would be what I picked to get first... then over time to aquire the other two. Not sure what you're looking at as far as the Speedie but I love the saphire back model. My plan is Sub (one down!) Speedie then ExplorerI. Good luck!

30 May 2013, 03:53 PM	#37
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Speedmaster Pro __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

30 May 2013, 10:32 PM	#38
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	Shocked at the overwhelming response for the speedy. But I agree. Not just in theory either, as I plan on picking one up soon I also love the fact that I rarely see then in the wild, whereas I feel like rolex is as common as squirrels these days. They are everywhere. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

30 May 2013, 11:21 PM	#39
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	1) ExpII 2) Omega 3) 16610 __________________ Lead by example through production.

31 May 2013, 12:27 AM	#43
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	Count out the Sub if you've an SD and the chrono is too busy on the Speedy IMHO. Explorer for me but I'd hunt around for preowned EXPII (42mm) the strap, lume and 2nd zone are all better than EXP39..... __________________ Current rotation; AP15500ST grey, White Daytona 116500, WG Black/Red Daytona 116509, White and Black EXP 42, GMT2C.... too many previous it makes my head hurt thinking about them.

31 May 2013, 09:49 PM	#47
dvdwyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 182	explorer 1 win hands down __________________ 87-88 – R / 89-90 – L / 90 – E / 91 – E / 91 – X / 91 – N / 92 – C / 93 / 94 – S / 95 / 96 – W / 96 / 97 – T / 97 / 98 – U / 98 / 99 – A / 00 Apr – P / 01 Aug – K / 02 Sep – Y / 04 Jan – F / 05 Jan to 06 Jul – D / 06 Jul to 07 Dec – Z / 08 Jan to 08 Nov – M /08 Dec to 10 – V / mid 10 to end 10 – G / 2011 to now – alphanumeric

30 May 2013, 12:50 PM	#32
Aspirin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: at home Posts: 1,330	Rolex Explorer 1 214270 (new) >>> grand new, get this one! Rolex 14060M (mint pre-owned) >>> Iconic, but preowned!!! Omega Speedmaster 3570.50 (new) >>> give it up!

30 May 2013, 12:51 PM	#33
underdog33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 324	All are great watches. Since you already have the SD, I'd go with the Speedmaster. It's a beautiful watch and I personally enjoy winding it every morning.

30 May 2013, 01:31 PM	#34
warrior "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: massachusetts Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,692	speedmaster...for the reasons you cite. You already own a sd/rolex. Diversify! Why not get the most unique and cool looking watch of the bunch??? Like you, I love the domed hesalite crystal, symmetry, and retro vibe of the iconic speedmaster.

30 May 2013, 01:32 PM	#35
jshepard "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMTII Posts: 1,180	I have both explorer I 39mm & Speedy pro. In terms for versatility I'd go Explorer I. For historical significance, I'd go Speedmaster Pro.

30 May 2013, 03:48 PM	#36
votoms "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 80	Speedy Pro, I had always wanted a Explorer I 39mm until I tried one on. It is a little plain for my taste. I have a Speedy Pro and love it, albeit it doesn't see alot of wrist time. Your thread made me walk over to the safe and pull it out. All wound up ready for desk duty tomorrow.

31 May 2013, 12:22 AM	#42
TimeOnMyHands Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 16570 Posts: 457	36mm Explorer by a mile...

31 May 2013, 02:00 PM	#44
Billywiz Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: John Location: Florida Watch: YG President Posts: 2,090	explorer...

31 May 2013, 06:53 PM	#45
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	On pics alone, the Exp I looks perfect on you. I love the Speedy too but Exp gets the edge for me.

31 May 2013, 08:33 PM	#46
nameIess Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Home Posts: 307	This particular Omega model does not match my taste and I would avoid it even if I was comparing it to Casio G models. I would go with the Sub and it looks really good on your wrist however it is not new and I personally prefer to buy my watches new. The explorer looks good on you as well and If I was in your position I would choose it.

31 May 2013, 10:45 PM	#48
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	If you can only have one I'd go with either the explorer or the sub with the explorer being my 1st choice. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

31 May 2013, 10:53 PM	#49
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,392	Get the Speedmaster.

31 May 2013, 11:02 PM	#50
Ramiks "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Rami Location: Jordan Watch: Rolex and others Posts: 825	14060 & Speedmaster are icons and classic and both should be there in a collection imho. however if i have to pick one then 14060, but i ll keep thinking of that lemania movement ;) __________________ "You never know how strong you are, until being strong is your only choice"

1 June 2013, 12:16 AM	#51
JohnFM "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern CA USA Watch: 114270 Explorer Posts: 479	Thanks for all the input everyone. By the way, the photos I posted initially are not of the three watches on my wrist -- just pulled from the Internet for reference. John

1 June 2013, 12:17 AM	#52
brlay "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 48	I say the Explorer

1 June 2013, 12:18 AM	#53
petenyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: pete Location: NYC Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,011	speedmaster

2 June 2013, 01:25 PM	#55
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Speedmaster of course __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

2 June 2013, 01:29 PM	#56
BoomerSooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Watch: Explorer Posts: 794	Explorer

2 June 2013, 01:30 PM	#57
HRFdez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Hector Location: Lake Placid, NY Watch: Rolex Day-Date Posts: 390	I like the Explorer.

2 June 2013, 01:57 PM	#60
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,234	Wow, three great choices, also three that are on my to get list... but my pick would be what I picked to get first... then over time to aquire the other two. Not sure what you're looking at as far as the Speedie but I love the saphire back model. My plan is Sub (one down!) Speedie then ExplorerI. Good luck! Attached Images __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

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