Just purchased a PAM 000 - couple of Qs & any advice?

[Aventura]

Originally Posted by badgtho

As the title states, my lack of impulse control has resulted in another purchase. I was lucky enough to find a New In Box 2009 PAM 000.

After many many years of drooling over these watches I can finally do so on my own wrist.

My question:
Is it true that the full power reserve will not immediately be achievable if let to sit unwound for extended periods?

Aside from that, can anyone share any pointers for this noob?

Great purchase. I bought a 111 8 months ago and now I am looking to change it for a 000. Congratulations!!!

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Actually, it should speed up slightly towards the end before stopping.

It actually may. It happens when I'm not wearing it.


Any harm in just letting it be?
I'm completely fine with winding every AM.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by badgtho

It actually may. It happens when I'm not wearing it.

Any harm in just letting it be?
I'm completely fine with winding every AM.

I would advise having someone look at it. If its a broken mainspring, it's an easy fix. In fact any certified watchmaker should be able to work on an ETA 6497 and get parts for it.

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

I would advise having someone look at it. If its a broken mainspring, it's an easy fix. In fact any certified watchmaker should be able to work on an ETA 6497 and get parts for it.

Ok good to know.
Any damage being done presently?

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by badgtho

Ok good to know.
Any damage being done presently?

Assuming it's a mainspring break? Nah.

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Assuming it's a mainspring break? Nah.

If the main spring was broken, would I find other symptoms?

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by badgtho

If the main spring was broken, would I find other symptoms?

The 6497 should have a hard stop when manually winding. Or does it 'slip' instead?

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

The 6497 should have a hard stop when manually winding. Or does it 'slip' instead?

Hard stop.

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by badgtho

Hard stop.

I understand the basics and I believe that the main spring is attached on both ends as this is a manual wind. Were it to snap it would never stop winding like an automatic.


Is it possible that the spring is fatigued because it sat unwound for 4 years?

[kilyung]

Hmm. Doesn't sound like a broken spring then. Unlikely it's metal fatigue. So it's keeping decent time but lower than spec'ed PR? Sounds like it's got the wrong spring in it.

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Hmm. Doesn't sound like a broken spring then. Unlikely it's metal fatigue. So it's keeping decent time but lower than spec'ed PR? Sounds like it's got the wrong spring in it.

It's never been open so it has the right spring and keeps excellent time. Also, these have an alloy spring that should not fatigue.
According to my location guy, it's thickening of the lube from sitting. It's causing resistance that the spring cannot overcome for 56 hrs.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by badgtho

It's never been open so it has the right spring and keeps excellent time. Also, these have an alloy spring that should not fatigue.
According to my location guy, it's thickening of the lube from sitting. It's causing resistance that the spring cannot overcome for 56 hrs.

That is why I said give it a couple weeks of wearing.

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by mfer

That is why I said give it a couple weeks of wearing.

I have my fingers crossed that you're correct!

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by badgtho

It's never been open so it has the right spring and keeps excellent time. Also, these have an alloy spring that should not fatigue.
According to my location guy, it's thickening of the lube from sitting. It's causing resistance that the spring cannot overcome for 56 hrs.

Someone in the AP section had a wrong spring installed at the factory in his new AP so it can happen. The oils in modern watches are all synthetic and normally not prone to thickening. In either case, sounds like a week's observation before sending it in is the right solution.

[badgtho]

Good to know

Ill see how it goes!

[badgtho]

Reserve seems to be increasing.
I think I'll just keep winding it every 1.5days or as worn.

Once it falls into the rotation it will probably sit a lot.

[Chewbacca]

congrats! you started with a great no-nonsense classic. the '000' has everything one could want in a PAM and nothing more.

except, get straps.

[elazarus]

The Pam 000 is a great watch and truly historic.

The power reserve should be 42 hours on the hand wind.

Different color straps will change the look and always keep you enjoying your Panerai

Elliot

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by elazarus

The Pam 000 is a great watch and truly historic.

The power reserve should be 42 hours on the hand wind.

Different color straps will change the look and always keep you enjoying your Panerai

Elliot

Just curious. Why do you say 42?

[kilyung]

It's not 42hrs.

MOVEMENT Hand-wound mechanical , exclusive Panerai OP I calibre, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours.

http://www.panerai.com/en/watch-coll...-logo-pam00000

[badgtho]

Originally Posted by kilyung

It's not 42hrs.

MOVEMENT Hand-wound mechanical , exclusive Panerai OP I calibre, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours.

http://www.panerai.com/en/watch-coll...-logo-pam00000

Does year matter?

[mfer]

Originally Posted by badgtho

Does year matter?

nope