AD Discount on SS Sub

[ninotcs]

I got 12.5% off on Sub C with date and 15% on Sub C.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by StarSovereign

Hi guys,

What discount can I realistically ask for and expect from an AD for a SS Sub? I have a relationship with them and purchased my SS GMT IIc there a while back, but I'm looking for guidelines before I go in and ask...

Thanks!

In my relationships I have to pay premium, I never got a discount.

[codecow]

I think it will be very difficult to get a discount depending on where you live in the area. Silicon Valley/Bay Area is an expensive location to have a store and there are a lot of people here with money. If you wanted something less popular than a SS sub I could see getting maybe enough to cover the tax. On a SS sub I don't think the dealers will have any problem selling them for full price.

[porschedude]

Actually it came from Arizona, but it's cool if you want to bash on KY

[shirtguy]

I paid 7, 500 and walked out with a bnib sub c from an ad

[floater156]

10% from AD.

[Billywiz]

Probably nothing. 5% or anyhing higher is a win I would think. The economy is better this year and consequently retail sales are very strong this year.

Try trusted seller here (just to cheer up ' ol Speed...must be having a bad day?)

[Speed]

Originally Posted by paverman

Sounds like someone hit a nerve.

Originally Posted by Billywiz

Probably nothing. 5% or anyhing higher is a win I would think. The economy is better this year and consequently retail sales are very strong this year.

Try trusted seller here (just to cheer up ' ol Speed...must be having a bad day?)

No and No actually.

I'm just thoroughly and utterly amazed that folks keep asking this question. I'll quote Padi - as I am wont to do from time to time - It's like asking how long is a piece of string.

Really. I mean, really...How can you ask a worldwide audience what sort of discount one should expect at some random AD on a relatively "cheap" luxury watch - which happens to sell like hotcakes?

Expect 0%. I hate haggling...but if you want a discount, you need to ask for one. So ask for 50% and work your way down. Silly? Yes of course. But so is expecting a discount on a popular luxury good which will get purchased by the next stooge who just want a Rolex, knows it's expensive...and will pay the full price.

Furthermore, as I said above, if you want to save (make) $ you need to take a risk. That's true in business, life etc. etc. That said, the "trusted sellers" though as I have also said on other threads - could certainly get hit by a bread truck on their way to Fed Ex your watch to you- but by an large, they will sell you a quality product as advertised...otherwise, they would not be in business.

If the foregoing makes you squeamish...fair enough. Scared the krap out of me when I did it. Then buy from an AD and experience the joys of paying full MSRP.

[Billywiz]

Originally Posted by Speed

No and No actually.

I'm just thoroughly and utterly amazed that folks keep asking this question. I'll quote Padi - as I am wont to do from time to time - It's like asking how long is a piece of string.

Really. I mean, really...How can you ask a worldwide audience what sort of discount one should expect at some random AD on a relatively "cheap" luxury watch - which happens to sell like hotcakes?

Expect 0%. I hate haggling...but if you want a discount, you need to ask for one. So ask for 50% and work your way down. Silly? Yes of course. But so is expecting a discount on a popular luxury good which will get purchased by the next stooge who just want a Rolex, knows it's expensive...and will pay the full price.

Furthermore, as I said above, if you want to save (make) $ you need to take a risk. That's true in business, life etc. etc. That said, the "trusted sellers" though as I have also said on other threads - could certainly get hit by a bread truck on their way to Fed Ex your watch to you- but by an large, they will sell you a quality product as advertised...otherwise, they would not be in business.

If the foregoing makes you squeamish...fair enough. Scared the krap out of me when I did it. Then buy from an AD and experience the joys of paying full MSRP.

I actually agree with you but couldn't resist a bit of fun...

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[Speed]

Originally Posted by Billywiz

I actually agree with you but couldn't resist a bit of fun...

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Fair enough!!! ;-)

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Speed

Expect 0%. I hate haggling...but if you want a discount, you need to ask for one. So ask for 50% and work your way down.

You know I never liked the idea of haggling but then I just had a great experience. It wasnt at an ADs but a dealers who wanted to buy my uncles Rolex. Now just before I went in my uncle changed his mind on selling it but I thought Id go in anyway as he had other watches I might want to buy in the future so I wanted to check out the store.

So I go in and this guy, clearly knows his watches, offers me a fair price. I told him we have a higher offer, we didn't, and he offered a bit more. I told him that's better but I wasn't authorised today unless at the higher offer price so I put the watch away and he says stop and offers me more. Now Im getting a bit worried because he is on the verge of offering me the made up high offer price which I thought hed never offer, and I didn't want to tell him actually I lied and cant sell at any price today.

So I put the watch away again and he says stop. I tell him look I have to go, and I did as the car was on a meter as I just thought Id be popping in, and he calls his partner who finally stops him from offering the high price. I tell him I understand and Ill talk to my uncle and see if he wants to deal at this very good price, which was much better than anywhere else I had asked.

Anyway this taught me that its best to go in there as if you don't care if you sell/buy it and keep moving to walk away as if you really have better offers, then if they really want to do the deal they will probably go higher and higher, just don't blink too soon.

[Hammy]

Still new to this forum, but want to add my two cents on this. I bought my Sub c with date from my local AD and when I asked what is the best price she can sell it for, she told me 8400 Canadian dollars. The msrp is 8550. Where I am from we pay 5 percent tax. So doing the math, that's about 6.5 percent off or basically saving me the sales tax. Also, I just ame back from Honolulu Hawaii and went to 3 Ad looking for a deal on the watch and none would budge on the price. I do have a bit of a relationship with my local guy as I have bought two other non roles watches from her. She told me that there is more room to discount on the DateJust and almost non on the SS Professinal models. So, best is to ask for a deal and if non is offered, then ask yourself how bad do you Really want the watch.

[Orangejoe]

I have been on watch forums since well before 'the other forum' went commercial.

When spending close to five figures on any high end hobby be it watches, bicycles, bags, shoes, sports cars, motorcycles or camera equipment (and I have been active on all those types of forums) the only forumites that seem to consider it bad form, almost taboo to ask for a discount are Rolex aficionados.

I am new here and don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way (did I mention it's a great forum?) But even on my short time here I have been able to establish that you can get:

20% Off on the Sub and other popular SS models in Canada

5-20% Off on the Sub and other popular SS models in some parts of the US specially if you have a relationship with your AD.

My world view may be skewed after working as a real estate broker for a decade, but most people I knew who wore a Rolex everyday talked their way into the money they used to buy it (business owners, principals in professional firms, lawyers, etc.). They would never even DREAM of spending 4 or 5 figures on ANYTHING without at least asking for a discount.

Somehow here it seems it's considered bad form to get the same watch for less.

Just my two cents as a non-Rolex, Tudor (with a discount)considering TRF newbie. Typed while wearing my Seiko.

[StarSovereign]

Originally Posted by Orangejoe

I have been on watch forums since well before 'the other forum' went commercial.

When spending close to five figures on any high end hobby be it watches, bicycles, bags, shoes, sports cars, motorcycles or camera equipment (and I have been active on all those types of forums) the only forumites that seem to consider it bad form, almost taboo to ask for a discount are Rolex aficionados.

I am new here and don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way (did I mention it's a great forum?) But even on my short time here I have been able to establish that you can get:

20% Off on the Sub and other popular SS models in Canada

5-20% Off on the Sub and other popular SS models in some parts of the US specially if you have a relationship with your AD.

My world view may be skewed after working as a real estate broker for a decade, but most people I knew who wore a Rolex everyday talked their way into the money they used to buy it (business owners, principals in professional firms, lawyers, etc.). They would never even DREAM of spending 4 or 5 figures on ANYTHING without at least asking for a discount.

Somehow here it seems it's considered bad form to get the same watch for less.

Just my two cents as a non-Rolex, Tudor (with a discount)considering TRF newbie. Typed while wearing my Seiko.

It's not bad form. Speed's just an ass. Read some of his other stuff. Always has been, always will be...

[Speed]

Joe,

Excellent points. You have heard those #s here. I submit that many of those numbers are part of a "fish" story- "I once got a discount THIS BIG" Just my opinion.

It's STUPENDOUS form to ask for a discount. But why the incessant polling of folks for average #s which are meaningless / dependent on purchase history as you rightly point out. Everyone can and should ask for a discount.

But...if that's the be all end all, buy used or buy from a non-AD / seller with with a confirmed reputation and quit yer beefin'

[Speed]

Originally Posted by StarSovereign

It's not bad form. Speed's just an ass. Read some of his other stuff. Always has been, always will be...

Thanks Erik.

A Stainless Steel one at least.

[Speed]

Joe,

Excellent points. You have heard those #s here. I submit that many of those numbers are part of a "fish" story- "I once got a discount THIS BIG" Just my opinion.

It's STUPENDOUS form to ask for a discount. But why the incessant polling of folks for average #s which are meaningless / dependent on purchase history as you rightly point out. Everyone can and should ask for a discount.

But...if that's the be all end all, buy used or buy from a non-AD / seller with with a confirmed reputation and quit yer beefin'

[ufboy73]

seems like a logical place for new, potential rolex owners to ask what kinds of discounts others have been able to procure. i assume the former have not talked to as many ad's about as many rolex models as the latter.

if you get tired of the asking, you dont really have to keep answering?

i would add, ive entered into transactions with two 'highly respected' or 'trusted' sellers on here and was burned both times - actually, the first watch was explicitly not as described and it turned out the second seller tried to sell me the exact same ill-described watch 24 hours later.

so, i dont agree the answer to these types of questions is as simple as 'go with a trusted seller' for every prospective buyer.

[anothernewphone]

A lot of guys need to realize that some people saying "I paid $7,xxx for my SubC" may have also bought their watch a couple years ago, before the usual price hikes.

[etp095]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

A lot of guys need to realize that some people saying "I paid $7,xxx for my SubC" may have also bought their watch a couple years ago, before the usual price hikes.

This is very true,I bought my SubC two years ago and got a 19% discount from an ad,it was out of state,so no tax too..This same ad doesn't discount like it use to,when I called about a new expy 2 a few months ago.I think the msrp was around $7400,when I bought it.

[improviz]

They aren't going to throw you out of the store for haggling...typically if you want to save some bucks a cash deal will get you back some money as with a credit card purchase they have to kick 3% to the card company, so you can usually work a better deal with cash. Go in late on a Friday evening and offer then cash @ 20% off, doubtful you'll get it but if so, home run, if not, it's a reasonable starting point.

If they give you a sucky deal, you can always try the trusted seller look...one thing to consider is that if you insure it (which I recommend), it's easier to get it accepted with an appraisal which a dealer will give you for free if you buy it from them (in fact since it's brand new you will probably just be able to use purchase receipt), while depending upon how receipt reads for other purchase you may have to cough up a bit of scratch to get an appraisal, though it's still a paltry sum compared to sales tax.

Basically get your best deal, and compare w/trusted seller. Larger the gap, the more attractive the trusted seller options become. Smaller the gap, AD is a better option IMO from an "instant gratification" perspective, but ymmv....

[codecow]

You guys, in this area he's not going to get a big discount. With that said, it doesn't hurt to ask.

[Shammer22]

13% today, from my AD.