What shade of blue is the new GMT IIC?

[The Waddler]

Originally Posted by lostis4d

ok but u can compare the 2 stock pictures and EVEN in the stock pics (look at the top of the forum) you can see the different shade of blue DONE BY ROLEX

So, just to be clear, you think Rolex have patented various shades of blue for the cerachrom bezels?

[lostis4d]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

So, just to be clear, you think Rolex have patented various shades of blue for the cerachrom bezels?

i dont know anything about the patenting, all i know is that there are 2 shades of blue in circulation
shade 1: GMT blue and YM2 blue, very glossy
shade 2: Smurf blue which is no gloss paint like blue

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by lostis4d

ok but u can compare the 2 stock pictures and EVEN in the stock pics (look at the top of the forum) you can see the different shade of blue DONE BY ROLEX

Incorrect, the lighting in even Rolex stock pics aren't necessarily the same.

PS: the stock picture blue looks nothing like mine.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by lostis4d

i dont know anything about the patenting, all i know is that there are 2 shades of blue in circulation
shade 1: GMT blue and YM2 blue, very glossy
shade 2: Smurf blue which is no gloss paint like blue

Maybe you should visit an AD with an 116619LB and compare in person with a pic? Always a good excuse to check out more watches.

[The Waddler]

Originally Posted by lostis4d

i dont know anything about the patenting, all i know is that there are 2 shades of blue in circulation
shade 1: GMT blue and YM2 blue, very glossy
shade 2: Smurf blue which is no gloss paint like blue

Ok cool, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Like I said, the Rolex Boutique told me different (but admittedly I'm yet to see with my own eyes) and 10 minutes Googling about the patents shows me how ridiculously difficult it was for Rolex to a) get the cerachrom bezel done in the first place, then b) how even more crazy it was getting 2 colours on the one bezel - so difficult in fact that they have actually patented the process itself. Apparently they start with an in house blue bezel for the GMT and then add the black afterwards rather than the other way round.

So, a bit of guess work, basic economics and what Rolex said to my face tells me that there is (and logically/economically should be) only one blue in the stable. However, I haven't had them in front of me at once like you say you have so who am I to argue.

[lostis4d]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

Ok cool, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Like I said, the Rolex Boutique told me different (but admittedly I'm yet to see with my own eyes) and 10 minutes Googling about the patents shows me how ridiculously difficult it was for Rolex to a) get the cerachrom bezel done in the first place, then b) how even more crazy it was getting 2 colours on the one bezel - so difficult in fact that they have actually patented the process itself. Apparently they start with an in house blue bezel for the GMT and then add the black afterwards rather than the other way round.

So, a bit of guess work, basic economics and what Rolex said to my face tells me that there is (and logically/economically should be) only one blue in the stable. However, I haven't had them in front of me at once like you say you have so who am I to argue.

thb mate my dream watch is the blue smurf, so for me i WANT the blue to be identical as the blue sub, but ive seen enough subs to know its not, theres a reason the blue sub has the smurf nickname and thats the unique shade of blue it has. (google smurfs)

it wouldnt make sense for rolex to sell a £25k watch only to offer the identical colour in a 6k SS model, if that was the case we would of had the SS BLUE SUB by now, which is what im waiting for.

[gr33n]

hum, "half colour"..

[Survivor]

"I have one and it's very dark when the light is low, but can also be very bright when outside.. hard to say".

Thanks for clearing that up!!!!!!!

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by lostis4d

ok but u can compare the 2 stock pictures and EVEN in the stock pics (look at the top of the forum) you can see the different shade of blue DONE BY ROLEX

Lol, you cannot compare stock pictures either. Those are edited and finished, possibly by different people, even different programs.
I know for a fact the wht gold Sub and the precious metal YM2 I saw in a store had the same color. I can't comment on the BLNR in person but from the info before me, I feel it's the same also. If you don't, that's cool....enjoy your watch, it's a beauty.

Someone will post up side by side photos soon enough and we'll get something definitive.

[Rashid.bk]

These photos are from David who is very consistent in his photography of watches. Hope he doesn't mind.
Not conclusive by any means but from someone who seems to use similar parameters the results can give you a general idea. Having purchased from him before, I've seen the that the photos are pretty accurate.

[lostis4d]

yes i agree with you that these 2 are the same shade of blue ^
BUT
"The 116619LB stands for Rolex Submariner 11661x series, 9 is platinum, which is the material being used to make most of the watch, and LB is French "lunette bleu"."

http://www.ginault.com/Rolex/Submariner-116619lb.html

any idea what BLNR stands for?, i can only get to BLUE/NOIR

[lostis4d]

The bi-gold also has the title LB in it, Submariner 116613LB, indicating it has the same shade of blue as the WG version 116619LB, if the GMT and the YM2 were the same shade of blue surely it would have LB in the model reference

[Puffy]

great work

i think they're the same.

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

These photos are from David who is very consistent in his photography of watches. Hope he doesn't mind.
Not conclusive by any means but from someone who seems to use similar parameters the results can give you a general idea. Having purchased from him before, I've seen the that the photos are pretty accurate.

[Rashid.bk]

And look at this stunning image posted by one of our members, Tom, in another thread, featuring the YM2 and wht gold Sub. Bezel colors look identical.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

And look at this stunning image posted by one of our members, Tom, in another thread, featuring the YM2 and wht gold Sub. Bezel colors look identical.

to me they are the exact same color

[lostis4d]

Ok they do look the same in that picture, but I have seen them looking different, tbh I hope ur right it means I have a Smurf baby (new nickname)

[mustangtornado]

Agreed...I want to say the blue on the sub is different. If it was the same blue wouldn't the blnr be the bllb? The fact that the blues have different codes leads me to believe they are a different formula.

[lostis4d]

Originally Posted by mustangtornado

Agreed...I want to say the blue on the sub is different. If it was the same blue wouldn't the blnr be the bllb? The fact that the blues have different codes leads me to believe they are a different formula.

Ur right
All about the codes

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by mustangtornado

Agreed...I want to say the blue on the sub is different. If it was the same blue wouldn't the blnr be the bllb? The fact that the blues have different codes leads me to believe they are a different formula.

Trying to make sense of and decipher Rolex codes, lol. Usually works but it's not an exact science.
Like the dots on the crown. On one model it means one thing and something else on another.

My eyeballs have seen these watches and even the owners have confirmed they are the same, what do we need, a DNA test.

[mustangtornado]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Trying to make sense of and decipher Rolex codes, lol. Usually works but it's not an exact science.
Like the dots on the crown. On one model it means one thing and something else on another.

My eyeballs have seen these watches and even the owners have confirmed they are the same, what do we need, a DNA test.

Seemed like good evidence to me.
My eyes see a different shade.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

[porschedude]

It's the same blue?

[The Waddler]

To think that Rolex would do different shades of blue when they took years of R+D and huge expense simply getting one blue correct is ridiculous. All the blues look the same, nobody who thinks they are different have had the watches in front of them to compare or even own more than one with the blue bezels and now this talk of "codes"?!

What ever happened to common sense and to believing the people who actually own the watches, those who have seen them side by side or have actually been told by Rolex that there is just one blue.

Seriously, the amount of effort doing the PVD colourising of the Cerachrom bezels, the fact that they had to patent the process it'self because it was so expensive, took so long and was genuinely groundbreaking and now all of a sudden they're doing different colour shades willy-nilly.

And I also can't believe this is still being discussed!!

[lostis4d]

If anyone here is from manchester and has the WG BLUE SUB get in touch and wel compare it to my GMT BLUE/BLACK as I am still certain they are different

[Rashid.bk]

Yeap, it's time....

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by mustangtornado

Agreed...I want to say the blue on the sub is different. If it was the same blue wouldn't the blnr be the bllb? The fact that the blues have different codes leads me to believe they are a different formula.

My guess is BLNR stands for Bleu Noir, as in blue black.

[lostis4d]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

To think that Rolex would do different shades of blue when they took years of R+D and huge expense simply getting one blue correct is ridiculous. All the blues look the same, nobody who thinks they are different have had the watches in front of them to compare or even own more than one with the blue bezels and now this talk of "codes"?!

What ever happened to common sense and to believing the people who actually own the watches, those who have seen them side by side or have actually been told by Rolex that there is just one blue.

Seriously, the amount of effort doing the PVD colourising of the Cerachrom bezels, the fact that they had to patent the process it'self because it was so expensive, took so long and was genuinely groundbreaking and now all of a sudden they're doing different colour shades willy-nilly.

And I also can't believe this is still being discussed!!

#Awkward they are a different shade. The GMT blue is darker!

[lostis4d]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Trying to make sense of and decipher Rolex codes, lol. Usually works but it's not an exact science.
Like the dots on the crown. On one model it means one thing and something else on another.

My eyeballs have seen these watches and even the owners have confirmed they are the same, what do we need, a DNA test.

2 different shades?

[GerardoG]

Just tried one (AD also had SS YMII) and I liked it!

[anothernewphone]

I tried one on at Tourneau in King of Prussia.

[AK797]

Rolex have made at least two blue colour ceramics. The new sunburst TT and YG come with a darker more navy blue bezel, confirmed by Rolex and GMT master Chris, than on the previous ceramic models. And in those pics above the Smurf looks a lighter blue than the GMT and YM, which is probably the same colour as the new darker blue TT, so I think all the new models this year have a darker blue bezel, as I don't think there are 3 blues now.