FC GP v Ti MSc

[TSW]

Originally Posted by SCtud

Is this based on any real info? I'd love to swap out the FC bezel on the GP for ceramic and think that would be the ultimate watch. The bezel just gets banged up way too much and the edges get dulled VERY quickly. I asked the boutique if it was possible to order the Schumi bezel and put it on, but they said no :(

Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

Instant watch boner. When!? The RG GP with ceramic would be a better version of a classic!

You will see some pics of it in 7 weeks or so

[TSW]

Originally Posted by PN221

Let me just add to my previous comment that the Schumacher looks stunning on AP website photos and then you see it in person and the watch is extremely disappointing in the flesh.

Just my $0.02

For me it was the opposite

[AshAP]

I imagine the op was referring to the ti version which DOES look good on the promo shots but pants in reality/on the wrist. Too grey, too bland, just not a good combo at all and without the Schumacher link I imagine it would have been a slow seller.

The rose gold version on the other hand is stunning.

[ufboy73]

im still surprised by this poll - the schumi crushes it....but if you went by postings on this forum you would have thought the GP would have been the clear winner.

must be an ultra-vocal minority :)

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

im still surprised by this poll - the schumi crushes it....but if you went by postings on this forum you would have thought the GP would have been the clear winner.

must be an ultra-vocal minority :)

You crazzzzzyyyyy lol

Why do you want a Grand Prix then? :)

GP is the king, sorry.... If you're going titanium than RBIi is king

Schumi is nice but in a few years the sizzle will fade

Sorry bros

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by PN221

Let me just add to my previous comment that the Schumacher looks stunning on AP website photos and then you see it in person and the watch is extremely disappointing in the flesh.

Just my $0.02

I had the opposite experience. Website pics were not very enticing, but when I saw the Ti and RG Schumis in person I had to buy them both. I wish I could take pics that would do them justice...

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by AshAP

I imagine the op was referring to the ti version which DOES look good on the promo shots but pants in reality/on the wrist. Too grey, too bland, just not a good combo at all and without the Schumacher link I imagine it would have been a slow seller.

The rose gold version on the other hand is stunning.

I chuckle when I read stuff like this.

I don't agree at all. It may be a gray scale watch, but there is incredible depth and contrast between the different materials and material textures. I never would have bought the Ti version based on pictures. When I saw how incredibly versatile the contrasts were in different lightings and at different angles I had to have it. I haven't seen pictures yet that capture that depth and those varieties of contrasts. I have to wonder how some people don't see it, but then I remember that color hue perception is a measurable ability that lies on a spectrum, and not everyone has excellent color hue perception (no joke...), so perhaps they are just not strong in that ability (or maybe they have something against Schumacher or the current popularity of the watch...).

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

You crazzzzzyyyyy lol

Why do you want a Grand Prix then? :)

GP is the king, sorry.... If you're going titanium than RBIi is king

Schumi is nice but in a few years the sizzle will fade

Sorry bros

So sayeth a GP owner...

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

You crazzzzzyyyyy lol

Why do you want a Grand Prix then? :)

GP is the king, sorry.... If you're going titanium than RBIi is king

Schumi is nice but in a few years the sizzle will fade

Sorry bros

thats what i mean - outside of this thread, everyone on here seems to love the GP and it doesnt take long to see people saying they dont feel the Schumi that much...

but this poll is the exact opposite of what i thought reflected the forum mentality (as much as such a large group of individuals could have a common one).

for the record, im really torn between both of these! they are an awesome pair!

[DreambreaX]

Gp

[singe89]

I would still take the Ti Schumi over the FC GP.

That being said...I got to see the RG schumi in person and its far better than any other ROO I've seen.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

thats interesting, seems to be the exact opposite of others' experiences.

guess it just goes to show - different strokes...

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I chuckle when I read stuff like this.

I don't agree at all. It may be a gray scale watch, but there is incredible depth and contrast between the different materials and material textures. I never would have bought the Ti version based on pictures. When I saw how incredibly versatile the contrasts were in different lightings and at different angles I had to have it. I haven't seen pictures yet that capture that depth and those varieties of contrasts. I have to wonder how some people don't see it, but then I remember that color hue perception is a measurable ability that lies on a spectrum, and not everyone has excellent color hue perception (no joke...), so perhaps they are just not strong in that ability (or maybe they have something against Schumacher or the current popularity of the watch...).

I honestly really wanted to like this watch and I'm a big Schumacher fan....my dealer offered my first reserve on the watch as soon as it was announced but when I tried it on no matter how much I tried to like it I just couldn't.

The rose gold version though is a different matter...unfortunately my dealer only got one and just as the ti had my name on it the rg had someone else's name on it so I missed out.

...if you can see incredible depth in the grey scale then that's great...personally I've never been able to see beauty when there is none but that's my loss.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by AshAP

personally I've never been able to see beauty when there is none but that's my loss.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I still don't see how anyone could find this watch unattractive aside from a lack of visual or aesthetic acuity. Oh well...

[PatekCollector]

FC GP has a lot of colors on dial. Schumi win.

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

So sayeth a GP owner...

WHERED YOU GO ON INSTAGRAM BROOO!!! I really did enjoy your pics, you made me look at the schumi in a different way lol ;)

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

thats what i mean - outside of this thread, everyone on here seems to love the GP and it doesnt take long to see people saying they dont feel the Schumi that much...

but this poll is the exact opposite of what i thought reflected the forum mentality (as much as such a large group of individuals could have a common one).

for the record, im really torn between both of these! they are an awesome pair!

BUY WHAT YOU LOVE. Do not be influenced by the forum polls and others opinions. You might as well just let someone pick a random watch for you

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I still don't see how anyone could find this watch unattractive aside from a lack of visual or aesthetic acuity. Oh well...

TRUE THAT!

I think the Schumi is nice, I like it even though its a tad monotone. I just prefer my GP more given I love technical looking things, and carbon!!! :)

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

BUY WHAT YOU LOVE.

always!!!

[Bulliondesk]

GPC all day!

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

WHERED YOU GO ON INSTAGRAM BROOO!!! I really did enjoy your pics, you made me look at the schumi in a different way lol ;)

My wife started stalking me and harassing me about it. I gave up and erased my account... LOL... :'(

[PN221]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I had the opposite experience. Website pics were not very enticing, but when I saw the Ti and RG Schumis in person I had to buy them both. I wish I could take pics that would do them justice...

After looking at more photos you posted I think I am changing my vote to Schumacher.

I have 3 main issues with the Grand Prix which are following:

1. The red and yellow colors on dial make it difficult to pull off with a suit or formal dress shirt and I wear a suit to work 4 days a week. It seems like it will look great on casual wear but it has limited versatility in its ability to be worn daily with formal wear as the watch is very sporty looking.

2. The forged carbon composite although very light and hides surface scratches well gets chipped and dings on the edges and when that happens to the case it becomes a very costly and time consuming replacement. The bezel is cheap to replace but main concern was the case. I have seen many used ones for sale and a lot of them have very beaten up edges where the carbon material is missing.

3. They made far too many for a limited edition of 1750 should have been 1250 or 1000 units which is why the resale is not as strong.

[QueueCumber]

I have to admit, as a child of the 70s and 80s, something about the Schumi Ti really hits a home run in how it reminds me of die cast Matchbox and Hot Wheels race cars from my childhood. It has incredible overlap for me aesthetically with positive memories that overdetermines the pleasure it brings me...

[mb23]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Actually going up…

Anyway Grand Prix over anything for me (within reason) of course… RBII I even sold after GP

Schumi is sexy but not at those prices IMO

You sold an RBII over a GPC, now I know you are mental!

[PN221]

Originally Posted by mb23

You sold an RBII over a GPC, now I know you are mental!

Have to agree with this one unless you got $45k plus on the RB2 and made some cash on it I would never trade RB2 for a GP.

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by mb23

You sold an RBII over a GPC, now I know you are mental!

Originally Posted by PN221

Have to agree with this one unless you got $45k plus on the RB2 and made some cash on it I would never trade RB2 for a GP.

YOU GUYS JUST ARE HYPE MEN

Seriously, I buy what I love. Nothing moves me like my Grand Prix, sorry, point blank… And my AP collection is pretty large right now, oh well.

Glad we all have different options, to please each others different tastes

[PN221]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

YOU GUYS JUST ARE HYPE MEN

Seriously, I buy what I love. Nothing moves me like my Grand Prix, sorry, point blank… And my AP collection is pretty large right now, oh well.

Glad we all have different options, to please each others different tastes

I do respect your opinion and your taste and the fact that you take a stand on what you personally like.

That is more important at the end of the day than what the majority think albeit it may affect resale.

Enjoy the GP in good health!!

[mb23]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

YOU GUYS JUST ARE HYPE MEN

Seriously, I buy what I love. Nothing moves me like my Grand Prix, sorry, point blank… And my AP collection is pretty large right now, oh well.

Glad we all have different options, to please each others different tastes

Hey, I agree with you and I LOVE the GPC it's my favorite LE. I love the design and materials and the overall racing theme. BUT, an RB2 is an RB2 is an RB2....

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by mb23

Hey, I agree with you and I LOVE the GPC it's my favorite LE. I love the design and materials and the overall racing theme. BUT, an RB2 is an RB2 is an RB2....

I may be in the minority, but I am not a fan of the RB2 design either. I could have gotten one instead of a Ti or RG Schumi; it just doesn't do it for me. I don't think it is a bad looking watch, but some of the design seems not very well thought to me...

[Manofsteelpt]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I may be in the minority, but I am not a fan of the RB2 design either. I could have gotten one instead of a Ti or RG Schumi; it just doesn't do it for me. I don't think it is a bad looking watch, but some of the design seems not very well thought to me...

I'm in the minority with you too... Tho the RB2 is a nice piece, it's by no means the best ROO AP has to offer. I too would take a Ti Schumi over the RB2.

[PN221]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

I'm in the minority with you too... Tho the RB2 is a nice piece, it's by no means the best ROO AP has to offer. I too would take a Ti Schumi over the RB2.

To me the RB2 has very similar design to Schumacher what design aspects don't you like specifically I am curious.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by PN221

To me the RB2 has very similar design to Schumacher what design aspects don't you like specifically I am curious.

I don't like the pushers or pusher housing at all. It looks like a fish tail with something weird sticking out between the fins to me. Not much attention to detail on the pusher housing either or the pushers, though the crown has detailing. I actually don't like the dial either, even though I usually like skeleton watches; for some reason the chrono movement on the ROO isn't attractive to me, so showing it is a turn off for me and ends up looking chaotic on this piece with the grill over it. The grill and movement intersect each other in unattractive ways IMO. I am not a fan of the leather strap because it is more weather limited, and I would much rather have rubber. I also think rubber fits the aesthetic more. There are other aesthetics that I don't think fit in with racing, but honestly they are not unattractive to me (e.g. the multicolor needles on the dial). I don't like the way the subdials hang on the skeletal grill. The inner bezel and subdials seem totally disconnected/unintegrated with the grill aesthetically, IMO (BTW the RB2 RG does a much better job integrating these elements IMO...). No see thru caseback.

There are a lot of things I do like about it, and I do think it is overall a nice looking watch, but there are other pieces I would put higher up on my list aesthetically, like the Montoya....