Sea Dweller: Worth Waiting for Basel?

[amaninspired]

In my humble opinion, the 16600 is the best watch Rolex ever made. If you can find one in mint condition, grab it, enjoy it and you will never ever regret it.

[Oryx]

Originally Posted by Jason71

+1

I personally believe the 16600 is THE perfect watch, NOT some crazy 42mm version. IMHO, ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of a revised SD at Basel this year.

Jason - you will have to wait and see then.

Lets revisit this thread after Rolex reveal their new models at Basel.

[CWIN]

The 16600 is a great watch and I wouldn't hesitate picking one up. I'm currently itching like crazy to buy something...probably not a Rolex though and I've chosen to wait for Basel. What's another few weeks?

[HL65]

Don't be surprised when they come out with the new ceramic SD at Basel this year but it won't be 42mm it will be 40mm.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I stand by what I say. If Rolex comes out with a 42mm SD, I'm ready to eat my words. That isn't going to happen, though.

Like Larry pointed out, there just isn't any room for a 42mm SD. Unless Rolex discontinues the DSSD, which will not happen, it would make no sense to add another dive watch.

Lol. you misunderstood me. I agree with your original assessment and what I meant regarding copy pasting is that you'll be repeating your statement because with Basel a few weeks away still, there will be quite a few of these threads asking the impossible.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Don't be surprised when they come out with the new ceramic SD at Basel this year but it won't be 42mm it will be 40mm.

Really, so what do you think will happen to the DSSD?

I don't disagree and would love to see a new SD but wouldn't that water down the diver range and only move sales of one model onto the next?

[HL65]

Originally Posted by pitbull666

Really, so what do you think will happen to the DSSD?

I don't disagree and would love to see a new SD but wouldn't that water down the diver range and only move sales of one model onto the next?

Different watch with different look and size.

[mikkemus23]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Don't be surprised when they come out with the new ceramic SD at Basel this year but it won't be 42mm it will be 40mm.

I think you're on to something here, it would sell like hot cakes.

I would like to see two lines of red typing too :

[SC11]

Yeah from a buyers POV it's a get idea and bet it would be an awesome piece but from a business POV wouldn't they just see it as more production costs/promotion cost Vs a sale to an already potential buyer of either a SubC or DSSD?

Unless they plan on phasing out the DSSD and market their dive pieces as SubC's and SDC's!

Interesting.....

[outtatime]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

And I don't understand why people in speculation threads state opinions as facts.

Personally, I'd love to seem them do a 42mm Sub/SD (or even 44), but if they don't, oh well I guess. I don't know why people seem so hell bent on declaring that this will "never happen".

[JJL]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Don't be surprised when they come out with the new ceramic SD at Basel this year but it won't be 42mm it will be 40mm.

You think? What makes you think that? I don't see that happening but would love if it did.

However I do agree that if they did come out with one, it wouldn't be at 42mm though - not with the DSSD still in the lineup. Too redundant.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Lol. you misunderstood me. I agree with your original assessment and what I meant regarding copy pasting is that you'll be repeating your statement because with Basel a few weeks away still, there will be quite a few of these threads asking the impossible.

Oh, my mistake!

Originally Posted by outtatime

And I don't understand why people in speculation threads state opinions as facts.

Personally, I'd love to seem them do a 42mm Sub/SD (or even 44), but if they don't, oh well I guess. I don't know why people seem so hell bent on declaring that this will "never happen".

Well, in that case, I'm looking forward to the new 36mm Submariner.

[outtatime]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Oh, my mistake!



Well, in that case, I'm looking forward to the new 36mm Submariner.

Hey, if that's what they decide, more power to them.

Nothing I'd ever buy, but maybe it would be a good seller.

[strafer_kid]

Whilst it might be a nice thought, it seems unlikely that a new SD will appear anytime soon. Rolex must have invested considerable finance in the Deepsea and only a few years back. Good as the Deepsea is, any new SD would surely impact negatively on it? There are still plenty of 16600 SDs about, so anyone thinking along those lines could do a lot worse than grabbing one ....or two...now!

[kilyung]

It's just 4 weeks away. I'd wait. It wouldn't make a difference for me but I'd feel better having waited.

[DCgator]

Originally Posted by Tools

Rolex doesn't operate like other companies where they change their models every couple of years to spark interest..

There isn't any significant difference between the current 43/44mm DSSD and 42mm.. If you want the DSSD lite, you get a Sub; there just is not any place in the line-up for a 42mm Diver at all. I can't understand why anybody thinks so..

Rolex usually does something new to a model around 10 years. They just did the "new" GMT blnr,

Look to the Air King getting a big-brother, maybe some muscle on the YM.. But I think that now they have the Tudor in the US market again, that is where you will see the emphasis..

Agree with Larry.

[MaxCargo]

Originally Posted by amaninspired

In my humble opinion, the 16600 is the best watch Rolex ever made. If you can find one in mint condition, grab it, enjoy it and you will never ever regret it.

[Cc1966]

Get your SD...always more room in the safe for another down the road (or for a flip).

[DVR]

Originally Posted by strafer_kid

Whilst it might be a nice thought, it seems unlikely that a new SD will appear anytime soon. Rolex must have invested considerable finance in the Deepsea and only a few years back. Good as the Deepsea is, any new SD would surely impact negatively on it?

2 mm difference in a watch is huge either up or down. Not only that but a Deepsea is very thick. A thinner 42mm SD would be a plus in the line-up. It would generate a tremendous amount of new sales. Many people, whether we like it or not, find a 40mm watch too small. 42mm is considered the 'perfect size' by many. The Explorer II is not strong (desired) enough to capture that market. They need a 42mm mainstream model and the SD would be perfect to fill that void.
If it is not coming this year it will come in the coming years imo.

[Steve260]

Originally Posted by amaninspired

In my humble opinion, the 16600 is the best watch Rolex ever made. If you can find one in mint condition, grab it, enjoy it and you will never ever regret it.

+1
I have one with lug holes, then acquired another without lug holes when Rolex dropped the 16600 in favor of the DSSD. I still don't understand why the 16600 was dropped - it's still my favorite Rolex!

[shalako]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

+1 here also, they already have the SubC for those that find the DSSD too big, my money is on changes to the steel Daytona at this years Basle.

[Spartacus]

Originally Posted by lmcgbaj

I have heard from some very reliable sources that the Pepsi GMT is already done. They might not bring it out this year but it's a done deal for 2015. Apparently they already have it built. It will be an amazing hit for them I am sure.

What??? Pepsi GMT is coming out? For 2015, this makes little sense and completely conflicts with everything I have read on this board about how ceramic bezels are made.

What I find even more crazy is that you are making predictions for Basel 2015, experts can't even pin point the current year's new models or even within a 3 year range. Is your source a salesperson?

Regarding the sea-dweller, I'm not sure how you could make a sub 42mm without overshadowing the green LVc and where would you price it? DSSD 12k, sub at 9k, the SD at 11k? Rolex would need to discontinue the DSSD to make room for an SD. The new SD is the DSSD. After all the Deepsea Challenge marketing, why step back in functionality, create a cheaper entry point for DSSD shoppers? It just logically makes no sense to me.

I think ideally, Rolex will stick to making classics in classic sizes, see Daytona and recent auctions of Paul Newman Daytonas. The demand for 40mm, classic sizes and shapes is there, and by the wealthiest of buyers. No way Rolex goes with what a bunch of nerds on a dive watch forum want.

[Lew Archer]

Originally Posted by ttomczak

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Good advice. Buy the SD now if you love it. If not, wait and see...

[carlitos1020]

Originally Posted by the_walrus

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[DVR]

Reading this old thread is so funny now.
Some people seem to know it all but...

[TK-710]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Don't be surprised when they come out with the new ceramic SD at Basel this year but it won't be 42mm it will be 40mm.

boom!

[BJHofkin]

Originally Posted by JES77

boom!

Big time.

[Ste_J]

Originally Posted by DVR

2 mm difference in a watch is huge either up or down. Not only that but a Deepsea is very thick. A thinner 42mm SD would be a plus in the line-up. It would generate a tremendous amount of new sales. Many people, whether we like it or not, find a 40mm watch too small. 42mm is considered the 'perfect size' by many. The Explorer II is not strong (desired) enough to capture that market. They need a 42mm mainstream model and the SD would be perfect to fill that void.
If it is not coming this year it will come in the coming years imo.

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