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SMD · 30 March 2014, 04:28 AM

I like both, but currently have the ss and the ceramic. Reasons for going ceramic

-- case is more durable, not to say FC isn't durable as well, just not as scratch resistant;

-- ceramic a little more exclusive in that, according to the Ginza boutique, only 350 will be produced;

-- pricing made sense for me as I managed to get a Ceramic for quite a bit less than I could get an FC diver for on TRF; and

-- my belief that it is likely to hold its value a little better due to the fact that it is boutique only, so no discounting.

That being said, I may consider getting the FC in the future, but not sure I really want all 3 divers (I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the white diver!).

craniotes · 30 March 2014, 02:58 PM

AP will make as many ceramic Divers as the market calls for, so don't worry, there's no artificial cap on its production. I'm not sure why the Ginza boutique would imply otherwise, and even go so far as to provide a number that's even lower than the typical run for a proper ROO LE, but I'm sure they had their reasons.

Regards,
Adam

SMD · 31 March 2014, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniotes

AP will make as many ceramic Divers as the market calls for, so don't worry, there's no artificial cap on its production. I'm not sure why the Ginza boutique would imply otherwise, and even go so far as to provide a number that's even lower than the typical run for a proper ROO LE, but I'm sure they had their reasons.

Regards,
Adam

I thought it was odd as well, and I have never officially read that anywhere. This is the thread where it was discussed. Either way, love all of them (except white).

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...66#post4605766

exxondus · 31 March 2014, 01:22 PM

Fc for me.

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bric · 5 April 2014, 12:54 AM

Tried on a friend's FC and it was a good 5 minutes :-)

blcblc · 5 April 2014, 01:29 AM

FC for me

lakbum · 9 April 2014, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

Unless it's been dragged along asphalt put up against sandpaper that's something that's very hard to do to a FC case

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I'm not entirely sure if the description of an "eroded FC" is going on with mine, but I will take pictures of mine and post it.

I am slightly annoyed since I read that the FC was supposed to be durable. I daily wear mine but I don't do any physical activities with it and I haven't had any incident in banging it against anything.

I will upload pictures when I get home.

TIFOSI TIMEPIECES · 9 April 2014, 03:26 PM

Both are great!!
I have a forget one and prefer it BUT as always it is a personal preference

The forged one is a lot easier to find at a good deal

All the best'
Tifosi Forever

exxondus · 10 April 2014, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lakbum

I'm not entirely sure if the description of an "eroded FC" is going on with mine, but I will take pictures of mine and post it.

I am slightly annoyed since I read that the FC was supposed to be durable. I daily wear mine but I don't do any physical activities with it and I haven't had any incident in banging it against anything.

I will upload pictures when I get home.

Would be good to see the pics. Cos my 1 yr + fc diver is still in mint condition despite being worn almost on a daily basis.

lakbum · 10 April 2014, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by exxondus

Would be good to see the pics. Cos my 1 yr + fc diver is still in mint condition despite being worn almost on a daily basis.

I've had mine for about 10 months now and I daily wear it. I sit at a desk most of the day so nothing too active about my lifestyle.

Everywhere thats not shown in the pictures is mint...just that area for some reason.

Here are some pictures...

watchdog507 · 10 April 2014, 01:26 AM

Yikes, that is a shame! That just looks wrong. I would assume that there is warranty still. I think that I'm leaning to Ceramic now.

lakbum · 10 April 2014, 01:36 AM

Yeah, I'm still under warranty but I don't know what they are going to propose since I believe FC is not 'polishable'? I'm not sure if they would replace it for free and if they don't, I'll just wait to send in during the waterproofing for my 3rd year warranty and decide then to replace it.

However, I will contact AP Singapore (closest AD for me) and see what they think of it.

Mbbgysam · 10 April 2014, 02:10 AM

I truly hope that is not expected wear and tear for the FC! I can only imagine what AP would charge for a new case...

diver2012 · 10 April 2014, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mbbgysam

I truly hope that is not expected wear and tear for the FC! I can only imagine what AP would charge for a new case...

I'm pretty sure a new FC case isn't that expensive at all - in fact, I'm sure it's relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

That doesn't look like wear and tear to me though and I'd be pushing for a new case under warranty.

craniotes · 10 April 2014, 04:44 AM

Yeah, that's grounds for a new case, methinks -- on AP's dime - because that type of wear is most certainly NOT normal. Case in point, my FC Diver is well over a year old now and has been everywhere from the pool, to the ocean, to the playground, to sub-zero snow (worn outside my glove), etc, and with the exception of a nick or two (entirely my fault, and thankfully, all but invisible thanks to the mottled nature of forged carbon), it looks brand new, with the lines of the case as crisp today as when I first too the plastic off.

As for case replacements, I've heard that the cost for a new FC case is quite reasonable, all things considered. Still, this should be covered under warranty.

Regards,
Adam

Mbbgysam · 10 April 2014, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diver2012

I'm pretty sure a new FC case isn't that expensive at all - in fact, I'm sure it's relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

That doesn't look like wear and tear to me though and I'd be pushing for a new case under warranty.

Wow - that comes as a surprise, although I can imagine if it is compressed into a mold there may be minimal post-processing compared to the steel/gold/other metal cases (and thus a lower cost to create, raw materials cost aside).

In any case, I agree that I would also be pushing for a free replacement under warranty.

FightOnSC! · 10 April 2014, 05:48 AM

I own two FC's that are rotated on a pretty regular basis as daily wearers and I gotta say...i haven't seen that. it looks like it's fraying. like it's touched some sort of chemical that is making it decompose or unravel. bizarre.

i've gotten a case replacement on one before, its about $1200 US. but that's because i beat mine up, and then started to just play with it thereafter. that looks like you've been dragging it around asphalt or something (which I know you haven't)

el1125 · 10 April 2014, 08:28 AM

Both good. I think ceramic is more scratch resistant though and has more shine.

lakbum · 11 April 2014, 12:34 AM

Thanks for the replies...I will contact AD Singapore and see if they will be willing to replace it for free and be insistent that this is not the level of quality I expected from an AP timepiece.

9 April 2014, 03:26 PM	#38
TIFOSI TIMEPIECES Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Posts: 205	Diver Both are great!! I have a forget one and prefer it BUT as always it is a personal preference The forged one is a lot easier to find at a good deal All the best' Tifosi Forever

30 March 2014, 04:28 AM	#31
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	I like both, but currently have the ss and the ceramic. Reasons for going ceramic -- case is more durable, not to say FC isn't durable as well, just not as scratch resistant; -- ceramic a little more exclusive in that, according to the Ginza boutique, only 350 will be produced; -- pricing made sense for me as I managed to get a Ceramic for quite a bit less than I could get an FC diver for on TRF; and -- my belief that it is likely to hold its value a little better due to the fact that it is boutique only, so no discounting. That being said, I may consider getting the FC in the future, but not sure I really want all 3 divers (I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the white diver!).

30 March 2014, 02:58 PM	#32
craniotes Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Ad Rock Location: Manhattan Posts: 621	AP will make as many ceramic Divers as the market calls for, so don't worry, there's no artificial cap on its production. I'm not sure why the Ginza boutique would imply otherwise, and even go so far as to provide a number that's even lower than the typical run for a proper ROO LE, but I'm sure they had their reasons. Regards, Adam

31 March 2014, 01:22 PM	#34
exxondus "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 568	Fc for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2

5 April 2014, 12:54 AM	#35
bric "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Asia Pacific Watch: AP ROC Posts: 34	Tried on a friend's FC and it was a good 5 minutes :-)

5 April 2014, 01:29 AM	#36
blcblc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,300	FC for me

10 April 2014, 01:26 AM	#41
watchdog507 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: YYZ, RSW Watch: Rose Gold Posts: 1,675	Yikes, that is a shame! That just looks wrong. I would assume that there is warranty still. I think that I'm leaning to Ceramic now.

10 April 2014, 01:36 AM	#42
lakbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Dennis Location: Philippines Watch: AP FC Diver Posts: 33	Yeah, I'm still under warranty but I don't know what they are going to propose since I believe FC is not 'polishable'? I'm not sure if they would replace it for free and if they don't, I'll just wait to send in during the waterproofing for my 3rd year warranty and decide then to replace it. However, I will contact AP Singapore (closest AD for me) and see what they think of it.

10 April 2014, 02:10 AM	#43
Mbbgysam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 1,065	I truly hope that is not expected wear and tear for the FC! I can only imagine what AP would charge for a new case...

10 April 2014, 04:44 AM	#45
craniotes Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Ad Rock Location: Manhattan Posts: 621	Yeah, that's grounds for a new case, methinks -- on AP's dime - because that type of wear is most certainly NOT normal. Case in point, my FC Diver is well over a year old now and has been everywhere from the pool, to the ocean, to the playground, to sub-zero snow (worn outside my glove), etc, and with the exception of a nick or two (entirely my fault, and thankfully, all but invisible thanks to the mottled nature of forged carbon), it looks brand new, with the lines of the case as crisp today as when I first too the plastic off. As for case replacements, I've heard that the cost for a new FC case is quite reasonable, all things considered. Still, this should be covered under warranty. Regards, Adam

10 April 2014, 05:48 AM	#47
FightOnSC! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: J Location: El Lay Watch: AP. Rolex. The end Posts: 636	I own two FC's that are rotated on a pretty regular basis as daily wearers and I gotta say...i haven't seen that. it looks like it's fraying. like it's touched some sort of chemical that is making it decompose or unravel. bizarre. i've gotten a case replacement on one before, its about $1200 US. but that's because i beat mine up, and then started to just play with it thereafter. that looks like you've been dragging it around asphalt or something (which I know you haven't)

10 April 2014, 08:28 AM	#48
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	Both good. I think ceramic is more scratch resistant though and has more shine.

11 April 2014, 12:34 AM	#49
lakbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Dennis Location: Philippines Watch: AP FC Diver Posts: 33	Thanks for the replies...I will contact AD Singapore and see if they will be willing to replace it for free and be insistent that this is not the level of quality I expected from an AP timepiece.

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