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Old 3 April 2014, 08:06 AM   #31
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I had absolutely NO heart palpitations if I am honest, in my job I make tough decisions which can have serious consequences in life and death so bleaching an inset is hardly serious is it??? LOL. Whats the worst thing that would happen??? I would have to buy another inset for a few hundred $$$. Luckily for me I got the exact colour I wanted to complement my RED on the inset and the Patina on my watch..

No prob! In the end it is just a $300 insert so in the grand scheme of things... And I always have heart palpitations before doing something stupid and sometimes regrets after "Look Ma, No Hands"
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Old 3 April 2014, 08:11 AM   #32
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Nice job Andy. Looks nice
Efharisto George looking fwd to seeing it in the daylight to see how good its come out... Looks very nice though..
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Old 3 April 2014, 10:30 AM   #33
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Here is mine. Was jet black. Bleach and a few dunks




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Old 3 April 2014, 10:49 AM   #34
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That is one beautiful 16750
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Old 3 April 2014, 10:52 AM   #35
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I'll be the detractor.....Looks nice but to me you just ruined an insert. Why not source another and keep the original safe?
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Old 3 April 2014, 11:08 AM   #36
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One reason why I bought this insert with a graduated fade circumferentially. This can't be faked. I don't mind altered inserts as long as they are not sold as genuine.
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Old 3 April 2014, 11:14 AM   #37
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Here is mine. Was jet black. Bleach and a few dunks




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I like how the insert is matte. Looks stealthy.
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Old 3 April 2014, 04:15 PM   #38
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One reason why I bought this insert with a graduated fade circumferentially. This can't be faked. I don't mind altered inserts as long as they are not sold as genuine.
Gorgeous and new word for today "circumferentially"
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Old 3 April 2014, 05:14 PM   #39
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The problem with bleaching inserts is that you uniformly strip off the satin varnish first, before any pigment gets taken back a few tones. For me, that's the quickest and easiest tell. A good example is the black one, above. Looks nice enough, but a genuine fade is a million times better, IMO.
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Old 3 April 2014, 05:46 PM   #40
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Off course genuine fade is better but after my little experiment I feel very satisfied with the results as I managed to get the EXACT look I wanted.

If I didnt say anything and put pics of my watch saying this is my new 37 yr old inset I wonder how many of you would know its been bleached???? I dont think many would know..
Here is more pics I just took..
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Old 3 April 2014, 05:53 PM   #41
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What is frightening is if I can have results like that as a NON expert how many people out there are buying insets for $$$$$ thinking they are genuine faded insets??? Food for thought.
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Old 3 April 2014, 06:48 PM   #42
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did you also bleach the back of it, or mask that off?
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Old 3 April 2014, 06:54 PM   #43
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did you also bleach the back of it, or mask that off?
Vincent I only bleached the Blue half of the inset dipping it(Blue half) in bleach for a few seconds and out straight under running water. Did that a few times until I got colour I wanted... Very surprised at the results, I love that retro old vintage look.

By the way the back of the inset still looks the same colour nothing has faded at the back.
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Old 3 April 2014, 07:03 PM   #44
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Vincent I only bleached the Blue half of the inset dipping it(Blue half) in bleach for a few seconds and out straight under running water. Did that a few times until I got colour I wanted... Very surprised at the results, I love that retro old vintage look.

By the way the back of the inset still looks the same colour nothing has faded at the back.

Hi - yes, I already saw you just did the blue bit, so it matches the fade of the red. I think you did a good colour-match job - glad you're happy with the result. Personally, I loved it before, in the first pictures, but that's just my taste. Strange that the back didn't fade too. Anyway, enjoy it! Lovely GMT
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Old 3 April 2014, 08:35 PM   #45
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Accelerated inset fade on my GMT Master 16750..

Hey guys I thought I would share my experience with bleaching my inset on my GMT master 16750 (1980).

I started a thread over on the vintage forum asking what I could do to get a quick accelerated faded look on my inset on my vintage 16750... I have been looking around for weeks trying to get an inset with a nice light blue/red even fade but only saw ones which were either too dark blue with light red or vice versa..

After doing some research and experiments on other metal painted objects I decided to gamble and risk bleaching my inset to try and get that lovely light baby blue fade to match my pink/red on my inset... To say I am ecstatic with the results is an understatement, I manged to get the exact fade I wanted and one that I would have paid $$$$$$ if I happen to see one for sale in that colour..

Here are some pics of my inset before and after my bleaching... Now I know some will be very against such measures or would think I am crazy but I am a very happy guy with the look..

Look fwd to hearing your thoughts.
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Old 3 April 2014, 08:39 PM   #46
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Have to say that the pics dont do it any justice and looks much nicer in person...
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Old 3 April 2014, 08:54 PM   #47
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nice...so what's the formula?
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Old 3 April 2014, 08:59 PM   #48
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Looks good. Not sure how I feel about the artificial fade, but it looks nice.
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I'll be honest and say that I'm really on the fence on artificial fading mate. While I see no problem from an enjoyment issue for you, I wonder what the circumstance will be when it is passed on. Disclosure is an issue for all future owners/buyers. I am not saying you personally would pass it off as genuine fading, but perhaps the next owner would...
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[QUOTE=Cc1966;4854632]I'll be honest and say that I'm really on the fence on artificial fading mate. While I see no problem from an enjoyment issue for you, I wonder what the circumstance will be when it is passed on. Disclosure is an issue for all future owners/buyers. I am not saying you personally would pass it off as genuine fading, but perhaps the next owner would...[/QUOTE

Christopher this watch will stay with me for ever and have no intention on selling it or pretend its natural fade, its for my personal enjoyment and over time it will fade even more naturally and look even better... If I had a choice of 2 gorgeous identical looking women one had droopy natural boobs over time and one had FAKE perky gorgeous looking boobs I know which one I would rather have.. ;-)

Goes to show though that people spend hundreds of $ on the perfect faded insets but sometimes its hard to tell whats real and what isnt...
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Interested to know what you used and how you achieve the level of fade you want without overdoing it.


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dont tease ,,,, how was it done ,,, if you dont want to share the details ,, just a rough idea , like the end result though
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dont tease ,,,, how was it done ,,, if you dont want to share the details ,, just a rough idea , like the end result though
Hey Tom no secret I wrote what I did on another thread here on the vintage section so have a look there as the question was asked there.. If you cant find it let me know.

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Hey Tom no secret I wrote what I did on another thread here on the vintage section so have a look there as the question was asked there.. If you cant find it let me know.

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why the duplicate thread
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why the duplicate thread
Dude I opened another thread on the general discussion to share my experience and they threw it over to the vintage section.. How do I join the 2 threads??
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A mod will have to do that… dude!
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I'll be honest and say that I'm really on the fence on artificial fading mate. While I see no problem from an enjoyment issue for you, I wonder what the circumstance will be when it is passed on. Disclosure is an issue for all future owners/buyers. I am not saying you personally would pass it off as genuine fading, but perhaps the next owner would...[/QUOTE

Christopher this watch will stay with me for ever and have no intention on selling it or pretend its natural fade, its for my personal enjoyment and over time it will fade even more naturally and look even better... If I had a choice of 2 gorgeous identical looking women one had droopy natural boobs over time and one had FAKE perky gorgeous looking boobs I know which one I would rather have.. ;-)

Goes to show though that people spend hundreds of $ on the perfect faded insets but sometimes its hard to tell whats real and what isnt...
Very interesting analogy!
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Gorgeous and new word for today "circumferentially"
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Very interesting analogy!
Hahahaha tell me its not true my analogy..
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