help did i buy a fake?

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by newcommer

the item was removed

Originally Posted by newcommer

the listing was removed

So what, you still have the listing #.

[MonBK]

My neighbour works for e-bay Int'l fraud department, he can pull it up.

[mjclark32]

refusal to post the listing number, able to phone ebay easily, excuse me but I don't have too much faith in your honesty. Hope I'm wrong and if I am, I hope you get your money back...

[newcommer]

thanks heres the listing number 271468637829 thank you any help will be much appreciated

[newcommer]

thanks heres the listing number 271468637829 thank you any help will be much appreciated.

[dysondiver]

this isnt going well

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by newcommer

thanks heres the listing number 271468637829 thank you any help will be much appreciated

Not a valid ebay US or UK #

[newcommer]

imm as honest as it gets a hard working man with a family to feed who still believes in traditional values like honestly loyalty and respect its how i was raised, i am a new ebay customer so forgive me if it takes a while to find things on ebay my friend.

[Presa canary]

You really thought that was real? Best of luck getting your money back. Paypal is pretty safe

[newcommer]

the listing was moved here a copy and paste from my ebay account


(271468637829)
Member ID 2013bob2013uk | Feedback score of 109 | 100.0%
Sale date: 28/04/14
Tracking number: --
We had to remove this listing from the site and you're not required to complete the transaction. If you've already sent payment, the sale should process as normal and you don't have anything to worry about. If you have any questions about delivery, please check tracking or contact your seller. If you run into any trouble along the way eBay is here to help. Please visit the Resolution Center to help resolve any problems you may encounter.

[geneinnc]

You bought the watch from the pictures you posted?

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[newcommer]

yes i got it bad its my fault i haven't used ebay before and i dont know much about rolexes

the guy had good feedback and seemed genuine but there you go.

[newcommer]

i could print screen if you like or give you the sellers name is 2013bob2013uk will that help?

[newcommer]

got to go and phone paypal now will be back shortly i feel like such an idiot

[Presa canary]

Live and learn. You'll get a hard time here do to the fact a lot of scammers post their crap to see if it passes. You seem legit. Naive, but legit. Paypal will take care of you if you really bought that garbage

[newcommer]

Thank you for your kind words my friend i feel like im being grilled but i understand why, yes ive learned my lesson big time, will be back shortly with the results from paypal.

[nickb732]

Sounds like he's legit. Hard luck, hope you get your money back.

[newcommer]

Thanks its kind of embarrassing when your character is in question. Ok paypal have said that if the item hasnt been sent they will cancel the transaction
if it has been sent and it turns out to be fake I have to file a dispute im contacting the seller to tell him not to send the item and I want a refund.

[newcommer]

OK called pay-pal and they said if the seller doesn't send the item then a refund is straight forward and quick, the seller replied to my message and agreed to refund and not send the item so thank goodness ive suffered a near miss but not a loss, im going to delete the sellers name from my earlier post because i actually think he didn't know it was a fake because supposedly his father gave it to him but he never wore it because it wasn't his kind of watch so gonna give him the benefit of the doubt... but thank you all for making me aware that this watch is poop.

i will be back with a real rolex next time one which i have bought from a reputable rolex dealer so thanks again people and see you soon.

[francis]

Originally Posted by newcommer

OK called pay-pal and they said if the seller doesn't send the item then a refund is straight forward and quick, the seller replied to my message and agreed to refund and not send the item so thank goodness ive suffered a near miss but not a loss, im going to delete the sellers name from my earlier post because i actually think he didn't know it was a fake because supposedly his father gave it to him but he never wore it because it wasn't his kind of watch so gonna give him the benefit of the doubt... but thank you all for making me aware that this watch is poop.

i will be back with a real rolex next time one which i have bought from a reputable rolex dealer so thanks again people and see you soon.

Well good luck with picking up a legit one...
Post some snaps when you do... Dont sweat the negativity and short answers however... There are some who would rather shoot first and ask questions later.
On the whole though is a great bunch of folks that will teach you a lot

[newcommer]

Thanks tablia i will definitely post pics up and just from the amount of replies i had on this issue i can tell this is a community i want to be a part of. ive never been one to get offended or turn nasty because a few words i always like to keep positive because life is not about negativity, and i have learned alot already the seller asked me why i thought it was fake and i replied:

hello i had experts look at the watch and verify that the serial numbers are not real they even said the watch is clearly fake:

1)62523n.18

n.18 means its 18 carat gold but it obviously isn't because its stainless steel.

2)rbgsfrked doesnt mean anything, it should say registered but the people who make fake watches Don't know English very well so they just write anything.

3)snsawabe again this means nothing it should say swiss made.

4) "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" rolex never has this on the back only a few ladies models had writing on the back but not this.

5)d12 well known date and year that fake rolexes use generically.

believe me im upset it isnt real because i really wanted it and im sorry you have to go through this aswell i hope you understand.

check these numbers out on the internet even take it to a shop im sorry they will tell you its fake.

[newcommer]

guys the seller says he is taking it to the shop tomorrow to check it out despite what i have told him lol fair-play i wished him luck, this is getting interesting will report back and let you all know what he said.

[francis]

[newcommer]

thanks tablia, regardless what he says my PayPal payment is reversing im just happy im getting that refund.

there seems to be loads of reputable sellers who strictly deal with rolexes on eBay from America would you guys ever trust them do you have any tips?

[nickb732]

Mate, just buy something from a TRF trusted seller. you will not regret it. very fast and great prices.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by newcommer

guys the seller says he is taking it to the shop tomorrow to check it out despite what i have told him lol fair-play i wished him luck, this is getting interesting will report back and let you all know what he said.

Since the watch is so very obviously fake. It is absolutely a waste of time the seller doing any thing other than throwing the watch in the trash.

Likelihood is that the seller knew exactly what crap he was trying to offload.

If Ebay cancelled the auction after completion it will be a matter of routine to get your refund. You'll just have to wait the required days before starting a dispute.

[francis]

Originally Posted by newcommer

thanks tablia, regardless what he says my PayPal payment is reversing im just happy im getting that refund.

there seems to be loads of reputable sellers who strictly deal with rolexes on eBay from America would you guys ever trust them do you have any tips?

There are very reputable sellers on this site so that is an option. Another option is to build a relationship with a local watchmaker/jeweler who deals in used high end watches. This is what I have done. There is no waiting for the watch in the mail, you can touch the piece you are buying, and you can take it back if there is a problem. If they are reputable with a long history in the community the prices should be in line with the going rate. This is the only way I buy at this point. I am lucky in that they are a family business and have been dealing in Rolex's for 35 years.
I have bought on Ebay but will not anymore... The peace of mind you get from being face to face with a seller who has been in business for decades is priceless

[socalwatchcollector]

Bum deal... I am sure it would work itself out. Tell the seller you do not want the watch and you can file a dispute now. I believe you can go into fleabay and submit a cancel transaction. As Paul said the guy is just stalling... Show the guy the thread if you wish. If he cares to argue about it he will have a great time on here. Multiple collectors and experts have said it is fake and that means it's fake. Period!

It is indeed a POS

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Best Wishes.. BTW- You can as well notify your CC company provided your PP account is linked to a CC. ;)

PS.. I never have have had any issue contacting eBay via telephone.. .actually, had a number for them long before they converted their system from Chat and email.. .a privileged customer (LOL)

[77T]

So...now that this deal has been reversed, and the PayPal claim is processing, the next thing to do is learn how to choose your next seller better.

You don't need to become a technical expert trying to catch fakes to buy a perfectly good Rolex. Just learn to buy only from trusted sellers who have years of experience buying and selling Rolex. There are many of them in the TRF classifieds - just find the watch you want.

How do you know who is a trusted TRF seller? Spend time in the Who's Who section researching the ones who get repeated positive feedback and then look to see how long they've been here in their forum profile.

If you do this right, then this will be your last thread in WatchOut!!! with the title, "help did i buy a fake?"
And your next new thread can be in the General area with the title, "Incoming!"