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[masterserg]

Originally Posted by Sir Larry Wildman

Just COSC specs, nothing outrageous. It's just my personal preference that for $17k I'd want to ensure that any watch wouldn't be 17 seconds fast per day. And for what it's worth, I've heard of numerous Rolex QC issues but I've almost never heard of one coming from the factory that inaccurate.

I have never seen an AP at +17 per day (and I had a few at different times). My 26400s were dead on ... within a couple seconds at most ... but yes, Rolex are extremely accurate, probably more so than AP on average. All my PAMs have been extremely accurate as well. As long as we are not talking something completely off, it is not something I am very concerned with. Not for nothing the 3120 (and derived 3126) is considered one of the greatest movements ever made.

Being able to look at this is more important to me than a few seconds (of which we have 86,400 per day as PADI Peter would say) ...

[Baco Noir]

Originally Posted by Nima007

This is to all the 15400 Royal Oak owners. Recently I have been looking in to the Royal Oak 15400, blue dial. It is a classic pieces for sure and timeless design. I like to know and get some feed bad about 15400. How sturdy is the movement and what do service run on these bad boys. I hear people are saying it is scratch magnet. is it like daytona? and also would you buy it second hand or new? Sorry this would be my first AP so i like to gather lots of info and still shopping around.

Just timed mine it's running +2.5 sec/day over 48 hours.

I know you've decided to go another route, but I'd say you've been scared off for bad reasons. All watches get scratches and those who call this a scratch magnet are IMHO likely the OCD types. I think mine has held up well to normal wear and tear. The deep brushed finish is much more durable / forgiving than any polished watch I've seen. And timekeeping on a mechanical watch is always a variable, but there are a lot more people who will post about bad timekeeping than good or great timekeeping.

Originally Posted by Baco Noir

I don't baby mine, nor do I wear it doing landscaping, but I have worn it replacing the dishwasher and doing other labor around the house. Here is mine after 9 months.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by Sir Larry Wildman

Just COSC specs, nothing outrageous. It's just my personal preference that for $17k I'd want to ensure that any watch wouldn't be 17 seconds fast per day. And for what it's worth, I've heard of numerous Rolex QC issues but I've almost never heard of one coming from the factory that inaccurate.

Well, QC is QC...if you look at anecdotal reports of each brand, whether it be breaking and stopping dead entirely (as with my Exp) or basically ceasing to function (GMT), or running fast/slow (some of the APs in this thread), I guess my question is, what's the difference?

In either case you're going to need to send it to a service center to get fixed; in my view whether the reason is due to accuracy or something breaking is really irrelevant in this regard...well, except that unless something is damaged internally that's causing the speed-up/slowdown, adjusting a watch is a lot less intrusive than repairing it.

So ymmv, but in my view it always boils down to luck. Also it is possible that some of the faster-running pieces may have been running fine at factory but been exposed to magnetic fields either in shipment or by owner(s), particularly in light of fact that some of these pieces with timing issues were purchased preowned...but even new, with all of the electronic stuff being shipped these days, it is a danger.

I do understand your concerns (I prefer COSC or better), but by all accounts AP's customer service is second to none, and if they truly cannot adjust a piece to tell accurate time I'd expect them to make right, either with new watch or new movement. If it's like this right out of the box, you've got a lot of power in your hands, can contest charge etc., though I seriously doubt it would ever come to that.

Expanding on your proposed way of dealing with this: you might also be able to make purchase stipulating that timekeeping needs to be up to your standards, and arrange for you to take it home, set it, and measure it in a day and return if not satisfactory, I doubt anyone would blow a sale over something like this...