15703st vs 5167A

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by lmcgbaj

Use your elimination rule. May the force be with you Jedi.

Well the original idea or itch took place because I felt that I needed to have 2 choices on the Vacation/Beater department. Although I should change the Heading to Vacation/Weekend choice. So I could have an alternative to the Rolex for the less rough situations. I already have 2 choices for the Dress/Casual department: 5205R and 5712R. On that rationale it might make sense more to add the Sportier choice: the Diver. Although as soon as I type the word "Diver" I start to see redundancy as well.
I feel trapped !


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[liyolai]

ap diver for sure

[improviz]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Well the original idea or itch took place because I felt that I needed to have 2 choices on the Vacation/Beater department. Although I should change the Heading to Vacation/Weekend choice. So I could have an alternative to the Rolex for the less rough situations. I already have 2 choices for the Dress/Casual department: 5205R and 5712R. On that rationale it might make sense more to add the Sportier choice: the Diver. Although as soon as I type the word "Diver" I start to see redundancy as well.
I feel trapped !


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I think here the Diver (well, also the Patek ) slots in nicely, as they're more upscale than the Sub, are casual enough for standard weekend fare, yet have enough sparkle (particularly the Diver, which really brightens up under good lighting, though again the Patek ain't exactly chicken feed in this regard either) to show well for an casual dining experience/other outing and even go upscale quite handily, although here you could easily slot in the 5712R as well, depending....

So as lmcgbaj pointed out, there is some overlap here although the two you're considering are somewhat closer to the sport end of the spectrum than the 5712R, so in this sense they do "fit" between it and the Sub. Not an absolute necessity (as if any of them are! ), but gives you a bit more versatility, I think with this you'd have all potential bases covered except for real and substantial abuse, but for that there's always the G-Shock option.

[blcblc]

5167

[JorgeCCW]

I guess that when a Patek wins a pool over an AP watch on the AP forum, the message is loud and clear !

[texex91]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

I guess that when a Patek wins a pool over an AP watch on the AP forum, the message is loud and clear !

Time to change you signature back to 5167 only

"2015 Incoming: maybe.... 5167A or 15703st"

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by texex91

Time to change you signature back to 5167 only

"2015 Incoming: maybe.... 5167A or 15703st"

I think you are right !
After all this is my 2nd attempt to buy the Aquanaut.
When I was on the hunt for a rubber watch, I contacted Govberg but they didn't have the Aquanaut on stock at the time; they tried to give me an alternative based on what they had on stock and send me this pic




After awhile I decided on the Breguet Marine




So yes if it happen it should be the Aquanaut for seniority alone.
I try to be careful of what I say because tomorrow I might say something different

[AK797]

I don't know if you've tried it on but the Diver is pretty thick and with your collection the Aquanaut would probably fit in better, but if the idea of an AP really appeals I would also consider the 15202 as you have the Hulk for a diver.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by AK797

I don't know if you've tried it on but the Diver is pretty thick and with your collection the Aquanaut would probably fit in better, but if the idea of an AP really appeals I would also consider the 15202 as you have the Hulk for a diver.

Thanks, I had a 15300 before don't think is that different from the 15202. But yeah If I ever buy a APRO again it would have to be the 15202.



Deep inside of me, I know I don't need it, I also know that in the WIS world the 15202 is more iconic (Hey I think is more Iconic than the 5711) than the Aquanaut but for some reason I am thinking that the Aquanaut might be more fun.

[watch fun]

Aquanaut

[redsubby]

Probably AP Diver....will try to get the black ceramic version though.

[wisguy]

Used to own a Diver, too bulky for everyday use.

I have tried the PP on and it fits like a glove.

[JorgeCCW]

Is interesting that I sometimes post a thread for input to try to get the dilemma resolved and the funny thing is that is hard for people to advise correctly if I don't even understand what's exactly what I really want.

In this case I finally understood my impulse, these are the reasons:

1) I love the feeling of freedom when I strap my Hulk on (not babying it at all), I want a AP or PP that gives me that sensation (want my cake and eat it too); that's why I narrow it down to 15703st and 5167A.
2) I feel the need (the need ) to have an AP or PP watch that brings a fresh feel from my RG Pateks.

In other words I want a Hulk+ (a Midfield) . Does my small collection ready needs it ? Not really. That would be "the extra watch".
That helps my mind to stop me for running and buy an "extra watch"; If I am still stubborn with the idea after 3 or 4 months then you will see an incoming thread.

Thanks guys for all your input , Highly appreciated

[texex91]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Is interesting that I sometimes post a thread for input to try to get the dilemma resolved and the funny thing is that is hard for people to advise correctly if I don't even understand what's exactly what I really want.

In this case I finally understood my impulse, these are the reasons:

1) I love the feeling of freedom when I strap my Hulk on (not babying it at all), I want a AP or PP that gives me that sensation (want my cake and eat it too); that's why I narrow it down to 15703st and 5167A.
2) I feel the need (the need ) to have an AP or PP watch that brings a fresh feel from my RG Pateks.

In other words I want a Hulk+ (a Midfield) . Does my small collection ready needs it ? Not really. That would be "the extra watch".
That helps my mind to stop me for running and buy an "extra watch"; If I am still stubborn with the idea after 3 or 4 months then you will see an incoming thread.

Thanks guys for all your input , Highly appreciated

Sounds (too) rational for me

But I hear you loud and clear.

Again it's a lifestyle question always for me.

What are you wearing, how do you wear them and how often.

Good mix either way...

[SMD]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Is interesting that I sometimes post a thread for input to try to get the dilemma resolved and the funny thing is that is hard for people to advise correctly if I don't even understand what's exactly what I really want.

In this case I finally understood my impulse, these are the reasons:

1) I love the feeling of freedom when I strap my Hulk on (not babying it at all), I want a AP or PP that gives me that sensation (want my cake and eat it too); that's why I narrow it down to 15703st and 5167A.
2) I feel the need (the need ) to have an AP or PP watch that brings a fresh feel from my RG Pateks.

In other words I want a Hulk+ (a Midfield) . Does my small collection ready needs it ? Not really. That would be "the extra watch".
That helps my mind to stop me for running and buy an "extra watch"; If I am still stubborn with the idea after 3 or 4 months then you will see an incoming thread.

Thanks guys for all your input , Highly appreciated

Sounds like the perfect candidate for a ceramic diver!

[subtona]

had the AP Diver… it didn't stick.

have the Patek Aquanaut… i find more and more reasons to wear it, it is the ultimate fly under the radar watch and the dial is among the most legible day or night that i have ever owned. the Aquanaut is truly an all around watch.

ultimately i think it came down to dial and hands, i know there are other things to consider, but these things weighed most to me.

Ps. Another choice that sits squarely in the wheelhouse IMHO is a simple Panerai, 000 or 111 if you like the dial with a bit more.

[GB-man]

Unfortunately I don't find the aqua or the diver to be worry free as with a sub. It would have to be ceramic bezel diver for that and my dilemma there is I dislike orange and yellow ain't my favorite either. Give me a some of the 44 offerings in 42 and I'd be in heaven.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by texex91

Sounds (too) rational for me

But I hear you loud and clear.

Again it's a lifestyle question always for me.

What are you wearing, how do you wear them and how often.

Good mix either way...

How often ?
Mmmmm
I can see the Aquanaut taking 2 days on the week. That would leave 2 days for each of the other two Pateks and 1 Day for the Hulk
Vs
Now each Patek is used about 3 days a week. And 1 day for the Hulk.

So you see the cost is to love less time the other two. Still possible..... 5 watches is insane in my current mind set.

Originally Posted by SMD

Sounds like the perfect candidate for a ceramic diver!

I like the ceramic idea, less possibility of scratches but Like the look of the original a little bit more.

Originally Posted by subtona

had the AP Diver… it didn't stick.

have the Patek Aquanaut… i find more and more reasons to wear it, it is the ultimate fly under the radar watch and the dial is among the most legible day or night that i have ever owned. the Aquanaut is truly an all around watch.

ultimately i think it came down to dial and hands, i know there are other things to consider, but these things weighed most to me.

Ps. Another choice that sits squarely in the wheelhouse IMHO is a simple Panerai, 000 or 111 if you like the dial with a bit more.

I had a PAM 372, I like it but doesn't work that well for my current intentions. The Aquanaut in the other hand has so many positives. Like the AP idea for diversity reasons so I don't end up with 3 Pateks (nothing wrong with that)
Will see
Thanks mate.....

Originally Posted by GB-man

Unfortunately I don't find the aqua or the diver to be worry free as with a sub. It would have to be ceramic bezel diver for that and my dilemma there is I dislike orange and yellow ain't my favorite either. Give me a some of the 44 offerings in 42 and I'd be in heaven.

I know nothing will be worry free as the Sub, but trying to get to the closest possible. A compromise.
Thanks


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[benlee]

Diver for me. I'm a big fan.



I like the Aquanault also but only the RG version.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by benlee

Diver for me. I'm a big fan.



I like the Aquanault also but only the RG version.

Very nice Ben, Not making these any easier

[JorgeCCW]

Today i am favoring the Diver for my collection.....
Don't know about tomorrow

[SMD]

Diver and Margarita. Perfect combo.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by SMD

Diver and Margarita. Perfect combo.

Stunning !!
Not helping here....

[benlee]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Stunning !!
Not helping here....

Need some more enabling Jorge?

[Passionata]

Considering your current collection,i have no idea:-)might be the AP just for tge diversity of brands .

[texex91]

I'll repeat what you already said Jorge...a Patek is winning a poll in the AP section. Enough said.

[GB-man]

Guess I have to produce some evidence before we lose this case...which I thought was in the bag!









Don't overthink it

[SMD]

Chunky or thin, that is the decision. For me the aquanaut is too small. The 5980 is the only one that doesn't look small on me.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by benlee

Need some more enabling Jorge?

Outstanding Ben, as far as today I can say this I either add the AP diver or keep the 3 I have. The AP diver is the only possible fit for my collection. I want to be completely sure before I add anything, so if by Christmas I still have the itch. You will see a 3.B watch listed.
Will see.....

Originally Posted by Passionata

Considering your current collection,i have no idea:-)might be the AP just for tge diversity of brands .

Yes I really don't need it, that's why I am gonna wait it out and see.
Cheers !!


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[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Guess I have to produce some evidence before we lose this case...which I thought was in the bag!









Don't overthink it

Gosh ....... Think think think...
Luckily I have some time to think about it

Cheers !


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