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Old 28 August 2014, 06:25 PM   #31
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Big watches are already out of style if you are in the know. The only excusable watch over 40mm is a Panerai but even that has run it's course. Anyone buying big watches at this point is behind the fashion curve. Larger watches for women are still okay but by larger I mean men's watches 33-40mm. Another important part of this equation is that watch enthusiasts aren't generally known for their fashion chops. Having money doesn't necessarily mean having good taste. Anyhow I'm sure this will hurt all of your big watch feelings but there just isn't anything more disgusting or tacky than a 45mm breitling on the arm of some Bently owner clinging to the last few strands of hair on his head or god for bid a 47mm Panerai on the wrist of someone who can't even swim a lap in his own pool let alone venture to any depth in which that watch may be proven of some use. Guy's I know you don't know me but trust me. Classic, clean, iconic are all good bets for your personal style as well as timepieces. If 40mm was good enough for Brando,Eastwood,Newman,Selleck,McQueen,Redford etc. etc. It's good enough for you. And if your argument is there will be new cool icons wearing the big stuff, I would say find me one that will have the shelf life of those I mentioned. The large watch thing is purely aesthetic and rarely a functional purpose driven element. Sorry don't mean to offend I just see so many older guys buying into stuff they think is cool and unfortunately it just isn't and amongst those in fashion related industries big watches no matter the complication or make are a dead giveaway for douchebagery. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Watchsnob is that you? ;)

(Must say I agree but I don't understand the relevance to the 41mm DJ. It is not a big watch).
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Old 28 August 2014, 07:17 PM   #32
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Very different watches, the market had room for both IMHO.
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Old 28 August 2014, 08:14 PM   #33
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My wrist strongly disagrees with you

It all boils down to case design more than anything IMO and the DJII case is pretty chunky. On me it definitely wears much much larger than my 40mm SubC. It's not even close.
Well that's not the case with my DDII, maybe the DJII feels different.
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Old 28 August 2014, 08:21 PM   #34
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For me, 40mm is the absolute biggest watch I can wear without looking idiotic due to my wrist size.

So if I had to pick between 41 or 36mm, it's 36mm for me. I hope that the new dd takes off and everybody trades in their 36mm dds for bigger ones. Then I can pick one up for cheap!


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Old 28 August 2014, 08:29 PM   #35
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Big watches are already out of style if you are in the know. The only excusable watch over 40mm is a Panerai but even that has run it's course. Anyone buying big watches at this point is behind the fashion curve. Larger watches for women are still okay but by larger I mean men's watches 33-40mm. Another important part of this equation is that watch enthusiasts aren't generally known for their fashion chops. Having money doesn't necessarily mean having good taste. Anyhow I'm sure this will hurt all of your big watch feelings but there just isn't anything more disgusting or tacky than a 45mm breitling on the arm of some Bently owner clinging to the last few strands of hair on his head or god for bid a 47mm Panerai on the wrist of someone who can't even swim a lap in his own pool let alone venture to any depth in which that watch may be proven of some use. Guy's I know you don't know me but trust me. Classic, clean, iconic are all good bets for your personal style as well as timepieces. If 40mm was good enough for Brando,Eastwood,Newman,Selleck,McQueen,Redford etc. etc. It's good enough for you. And if your argument is there will be new cool icons wearing the big stuff, I would say find me one that will have the shelf life of those I mentioned. The large watch thing is purely aesthetic and rarely a functional purpose driven element. Sorry don't mean to offend I just see so many older guys buying into stuff they think is cool and unfortunately it just isn't and amongst those in fashion related industries big watches no matter the complication or make are a dead giveaway for douchebagery. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Quite possibly the most assanine thing I have ever read. Ever.
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Old 28 August 2014, 08:49 PM   #36
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Quite possibly the most assanine thing I have ever read. Ever.
While it is a bit of a rant, I wouldn't call it assanine, or even asinine, even though I much prefer my classic DJ.
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Old 28 August 2014, 11:12 PM   #37
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Quite possibly the most assanine thing I have ever read. Ever.
I thought it was quite humorous and put a smile on my face. ( actually I agree with most of it )
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Old 28 August 2014, 11:15 PM   #38
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I had to get a 36mm, I have my fair share of large watches and when it comes to a classic the new DJ drew me back in, I have been wearing this more than my Daytona, I love it!!! The super jubilee is killer!!!!

Thats nice!
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Old 28 August 2014, 11:23 PM   #39
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Old 28 August 2014, 11:47 PM   #40
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For me it's the actual design that's put me off the DJ2 and to an extent things like the Milgaus. They have so little bezel they just look huge. I've had a Carerra and never considered that to be a big looking watch.

Since having the DJ I'm very tempted to trade my sub in for something else as I find myself being conscious of its size.
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Old 29 August 2014, 12:32 AM   #41
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I wouldn't mind the 41mm size, but I don't like the proportions of the fluted bezel on the DDII and DJII. I wish the dial was bigger and the bezel smaller.
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Old 29 August 2014, 04:28 AM   #42
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Thats nice!

Thank you sir, I went with smooth, although I like fluted, I think this combo looks great and saved some $$$, this watch is 2014, bezel doesn't appear as domed as when the first came out in 2006, did they change it slightly or maybe just my eyes.
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Old 29 August 2014, 04:51 AM   #43
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I think the 41mm is here to stay...as to what Rolex believes?...

I also agree I don't the 36mm is going anywhere either.

Since you have two 36mm, you may want to consider flipping one for a 41mm, that way you'll have the best of both worlds and can see for yourself.
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Old 29 August 2014, 05:38 AM   #44
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Big watches are already out of style if you are in the know. The only excusable watch over 40mm is a Panerai but even that has run it's course. Anyone buying big watches at this point is behind the fashion curve. Larger watches for women are still okay but by larger I mean men's watches 33-40mm. Another important part of this equation is that watch enthusiasts aren't generally known for their fashion chops. Having money doesn't necessarily mean having good taste. Anyhow I'm sure this will hurt all of your big watch feelings but there just isn't anything more disgusting or tacky than a 45mm breitling on the arm of some Bently owner clinging to the last few strands of hair on his head or god for bid a 47mm Panerai on the wrist of someone who can't even swim a lap in his own pool let alone venture to any depth in which that watch may be proven of some use. Guy's I know you don't know me but trust me. Classic, clean, iconic are all good bets for your personal style as well as timepieces. If 40mm was good enough for Brando,Eastwood,Newman,Selleck,McQueen,Redford etc. etc. It's good enough for you. And if your argument is there will be new cool icons wearing the big stuff, I would say find me one that will have the shelf life of those I mentioned. The large watch thing is purely aesthetic and rarely a functional purpose driven element. Sorry don't mean to offend I just see so many older guys buying into stuff they think is cool and unfortunately it just isn't and amongst those in fashion related industries big watches no matter the complication or make are a dead giveaway for douchebagery. There are very few exceptions to this rule.
This is quite on point...last year I really wanted the new rose gold 44mm Offshore. Tried it on at the boutique, and then it hit me, "this looks absurd." Sold off my 41-42mm APs and 44mm PAMs. Now 39-40mm is all I have interest in.
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Old 29 August 2014, 05:48 AM   #45
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I think there is a strong argument for both. While the DJ II fills a nice niche for some of us it really comes down to what looks best on the owner. I've seen some pics on here of 36mm where I could barely tell the difference. A guy with a small wrist can sometimes look foolish with a big watch regardless of what fashion trends dictate. The main motivation for buy/wearing a watch should be how it looks on the wearer not what GQ says.
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Big watches are already out of style if you are in the know. The only excusable watch over 40mm is a Panerai but even that has run it's course. Anyone buying big watches at this point is behind the fashion curve. Larger watches for women are still okay but by larger I mean men's watches 33-40mm. Another important part of this equation is that watch enthusiasts aren't generally known for their fashion chops. Having money doesn't necessarily mean having good taste. Anyhow I'm sure this will hurt all of your big watch feelings but there just isn't anything more disgusting or tacky than a 45mm breitling on the arm of some Bently owner clinging to the last few strands of hair on his head or god for bid a 47mm Panerai on the wrist of someone who can't even swim a lap in his own pool let alone venture to any depth in which that watch may be proven of some use. Guy's I know you don't know me but trust me. Classic, clean, iconic are all good bets for your personal style as well as timepieces. If 40mm was good enough for Brando,Eastwood,Newman,Selleck,McQueen,Redford etc. etc. It's good enough for you. And if your argument is there will be new cool icons wearing the big stuff, I would say find me one that will have the shelf life of those I mentioned. The large watch thing is purely aesthetic and rarely a functional purpose driven element. Sorry don't mean to offend I just see so many older guys buying into stuff they think is cool and unfortunately it just isn't and amongst those in fashion related industries big watches no matter the complication or make are a dead giveaway for douchebagery. There are very few exceptions to this rule.
One of the sillier posts I've read this year

Not sure how it is even relevant to the thread, seeing as this is about the DJII and DDII which are both modest, conservative designs
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Old 29 August 2014, 07:28 AM   #47
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Having seen DJII in person and grabbed it in my hands I said I had to buy something bigger for my Rolex watch ownership and flipped DD for YMII .
I rather care about size then material .36mm can be worn buy anyone but once you wear bigger watches you may no longer to have 36mm watches in your drawer and buy bigger counterparts
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Old 29 August 2014, 08:00 AM   #48
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coke or pepsi?
less filling or tastes great?
bmw or mercedes?
DJ1 or DJ2?

Something for everyone, no?

Why the fuss?

DJ1 too small - then go DJ2
DJ2 too big - then go DJ1
everybody happy!!

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Old 29 August 2014, 08:44 AM   #49
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41 mm is not big. I can't believe that 1mm would make a difference when some of you say i can't wear more than 40mm . For your information the 40 mm sub-c wears bigger then a lot of 42mm watches. So yes i think 41mm DJ2 and DD2 are here to stay. For me 36 feels way to small for others just right and thats what makes the world go round. Just because you or i don't like a size doesn't make it right or wrong it is our opinion and not fact.
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Old 29 August 2014, 11:00 AM   #50
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It's good that Rolex is giving the consumer the choice. I can see why someone with a large wrist would want a 41mm. It looked a little off to me at the AD, but I think this was simply due to the fact that I am so used to seeing the 36mm version (a Classic IMHO). Whether the consumer makes an intelligent decision is another issue. If I had a dollar for every time I saw a slender wristed person wearing a massive 45mm+ watch that was way too oversized for him, I'd be rich!
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Old 29 August 2014, 11:11 AM   #51
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In my mind the debate about whether the big watch trend is over or not is besides the point because 41mm isn't "big" and 36mm isn't "small".

I think both are here to stay. It only makes sense that Rolex has started offering their products in more than one size to suit more people. If you're 6'4" and weight 240 you're not wearing a small T-shirt. From a business standpoint it also makes sense since if they are going more and more to Rolex only boutiques they need a wider line to fill the display cases.
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Old 29 August 2014, 11:30 AM   #52
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Old 29 August 2014, 11:34 AM   #53
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I love the configurations on the 36mm DJs and DDs, but the size does concern me. I'm 6 foot, 200lbs and while I think I can still pull off the smaller models, the new 41mm variations are more appealing to me. I find 39-42mm to the be sweet spot. Every time I see that Jubilee bracelet however it makes me re-think my preference. I hope we see these on the 41mm models soon.
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Old 29 August 2014, 12:34 PM   #54
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Maybe a bit strange as the DJ is a dress watch at heart no? But I think anything under 42 is here for the long run. I will admit I have serious doubts as to the long term desirability of watches 44 and over. I say that being 6'4'' 210 and 7.5 flat wrist.

IMHO of course and you know what opinions are worth...
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Old 29 August 2014, 12:55 PM   #55
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While it is a bit of a rant, I wouldn't call it assanine, or even asinine, even though I much prefer my classic DJ.
Gotta say, I appreciate his candor. I also generally agree. Watches over 42mm may well not be around very long. My preference is 40mm for casual and 36mm for dress. JMHO
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