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Old 15 December 2014, 12:48 PM   #31
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Old 15 December 2014, 12:48 PM   #32
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was in new? i'd be upset only because for the current price i would want the new clasp version..... but i think they were featured on later Vs
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:07 PM   #33
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The dial is silver. The clasp appears to be the newer oyster lock but not adjustable.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:08 PM   #34
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Depends on how much discount you got from the AD. If the price reflects it then I think it's appropriate.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:11 PM   #35
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Larry is correct.
Cases are not always used in the year that common information dictates.
Steel sells quicker than gold and thus will be assembled more regularly than gold.

Your case and bracelet may have been stamped in 08-09 but is does not mean the watch was assembled then.
You have the warranty anyway.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:18 PM   #36
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This is the whole reason Rolex started manufacturing random serial numbers - its not important to them and they don't want it being important to the end user.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:23 PM   #37
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Please post pics of watch and clasp when you get a chance.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:34 PM   #38
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This is the whole reason Rolex started manufacturing random serial numbers - its not important to them and they don't want it being important to the end user.
I agree. I would also add that it is important to Rolex and their dealer network that with random numbering, it becomes very difficult if not impossible for their customers to determine how "stale" a given watch is.

It wasn't a random decison on the part of Rolex. Pun intended.
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Old 15 December 2014, 01:38 PM   #39
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Old 15 December 2014, 02:09 PM   #40
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Does clasp have the Easy link adjustment ? If not it is the older style.
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Old 15 December 2014, 02:10 PM   #41
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The clasp does not have the easy link adjustment.
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Old 15 December 2014, 02:16 PM   #42
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The clasp does not have the easy link adjustment.
It should have..

It was introduced with the 11652x models back in 2000..
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Old 15 December 2014, 02:49 PM   #43
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As others have said, if you're spending the kind of money it takes to purchase a WG Daytona you should feel satisfied with the watch. But rather than focus on the serial number, look to see that the watch has all the updates and specs of the current model that Rolex advertises on the website/catalog. If it doesn't have everything then the AD must have been selling old stock as new.
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Old 15 December 2014, 02:51 PM   #44
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Sit back and enjoy your new watch, it is beautiful.

Do not worry about serial numbers and all that. I had a 116518 that was a V Serial but dated 2013. I have a SS Daytona with V serial dated 2010. The fact of the matter is that SS watches fly off the shelves and Precious Metal watches do not go as fast. The case could have sat in the factory without a movement in it, or it could have been in dealer stock for a while. Either way you will have a 2 yr warranty should anything go wrong.

Personally I prefer the V or G serials as they were the last of serials before everything got RANDOM!
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Old 15 December 2014, 03:47 PM   #45
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As others have said, if you're spending the kind of money it takes to purchase a WG Daytona you should feel satisfied with the watch. But rather than focus on the serial number, look to see that the watch has all the updates and specs of the current model that Rolex advertises on the website/catalog. If it doesn't have everything then the AD must have been selling old stock as new.
I agree, but surely one would be satisfied before buying
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Old 15 December 2014, 05:44 PM   #46
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If your discount is under 35% off list, I would definitely take it back. In 2008, this reference was 76% of the current list price. Were stickers intact?

Trusted sellers here carry V serial WG for 50% off list, just fyi
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Old 15 December 2014, 05:49 PM   #47
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If it has the new clasp, so is the last "version", model number is 116509H . You can find this ref between lugs at 12h, and maybe on the warranty card.


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Old 15 December 2014, 08:56 PM   #48
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Thing is with the random serials you will never know how long the watch had been sitting in the AD's cabinet, therefore this kind of concern will never arise. So no big deal if it were me & I had a good discount.


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Old 15 December 2014, 09:08 PM   #49
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Picture of the braclet clasp would help
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Old 15 December 2014, 09:16 PM   #50
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This is the whole reason Rolex started manufacturing random serial numbers - its not important to them and they don't want it being important to the end user.
Exactly!
I tried to buy a WG Sub with a V serial and even offered them full price (V) at that time. They declined and said they have had to carry the watch on their floor plan and have interest to add.
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Old 15 December 2014, 09:57 PM   #51
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I purchased a new white gold Daytona today. I looked up the serial # when I got home and discovered the watch has a seven digit # starting with a V. Daytonas with that prefix were made starting in 2008 and ending sometime in 2010. Is this normal/acceptable and should the dealer (a reputable jewelry store) have said something?
Larry is spot on with what he is saying. For me, as long as the watch had all the newest features the rest would not matter. The two year warranty began the day you walked out of the store with it, so regardless of what the serial says you have all the same features that a watch made yesterday has.

I would not be finished yet though. Ask the store when they received the watch. They will absolutely know when their company received the watch which will be a much more accurate measure of age than any chart on the internet. The 116509 Daytona has increased in price 3 times since late 2008. The 2008 price according to old catalog scans available online was $30750. If the store truly has been sitting on this watch for 6 years, they paid $4154 less for that Daytona than they do if they were to order one from Rolex today. At least a portion of that difference should be made available to you beyond the discount they already applied being that the watch has appreciated in value over time since the watch was sold at the current price of $37450.

If you are within the usual 14 day return period and the watch still looks brand new, they may be more inclined to assist with your concerns even though what you are worrying about is far from a big deal. Whatever ends up happening, the silver/arabic 116509 is a gorgeous watch and all you really need to do is wear it and enjoy it in good health.
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Old 15 December 2014, 10:26 PM   #52
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I purchased a new white gold Daytona today. I looked up the serial # when I got home and discovered the watch has a seven digit # starting with a V. Daytonas with that prefix were made starting in 2008 and ending sometime in 2010. Is this normal/acceptable and should the dealer (a reputable jewelry store) have said something?
No internet chart can tell you when any watch was made only a approx date when the case/clasp was stamped nothing more.Now all precious metal watch are not the fasted sellers.So these Internet charts cannot give a 100% answer when it was made. V serials like most any other serial can overlap quite a few years especially in gold watches.But no matter the serial they all get a two year warranty.
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Old 16 December 2014, 03:01 AM   #53
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I am curious about the % discount, whether clasp is the latest style and whether you had been informed about this in any way. While the serial number could be explained away they old-style clasp can't.

This is what I would use as decision inputs. If the claps is not the latest style (likely true) and they passed it off as a regular deal I'd argue that I either want the discount to reflect NOS (new old stock) or return the watch.

Keep in mind you'd like likely get better pricing here plus the AD experience is spoiled to begin with. Let's be honest, when I drop this sort of cash and then find out they took advantage of me not doing research to the nth degree I'd be seriously pissed. This is shady and NOT what you'd expect from and AD.

This is not what an AD experience should be like. They likely pulled a fast one. Have them take it back. I'd even go as far as writing to Rolex and complain. This can't be in line with their brand image.

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Old 16 December 2014, 05:23 AM   #54
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The discount was just about under 18% off 2014 list price.
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Old 16 December 2014, 05:46 AM   #55
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what type of warranty card did you receive?
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Old 16 December 2014, 05:48 AM   #56
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Old 16 December 2014, 06:38 AM   #57
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It must happen quite a bit without buyers' awareness. I'm not sure I would be upset because the quality is probably better. I think the quality of many luxury products deteriorate every yr.
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Old 16 December 2014, 06:58 AM   #58
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^^^^ to above

I think you are missing the point. I expect to be informed properly and honestly so I can make an informed purchase decision. One reason and justification for an AD is that I don't have to do all the leg work (research, etc.) but can look at watches, get inspired and educated and buy from a trusted source. Both wasn't the case here apparently.

Examples like this cast a poor light onto the trade and the brand IMHO and should not happen.
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Old 16 December 2014, 07:35 AM   #59
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So is the clasp the newest style upgrade or the older style? Were the center links on WG Daytonas always solid like the newer Sub bracelets? Somebody please elaborate.
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Old 16 December 2014, 07:43 AM   #60
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Remember there are two clasp styles with the latch bearing the rolex crown. The older style has a round hole in the receiving folding link and you can see the rivets. The newer style has a rectangular opening and you don't see the rivets on the locking bridge. Here is a thread discussing it: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=216653

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