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kilyung · 23 December 2014, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniotes

The AP is arguably the "best" watch in this comparo but that doesn't mean diddly-squat if you're not 100% in love with its polarizing design. The 372 is arguably the most "authentic" PAM, but that doesn't mean diddly-squat if you don't have the wrists to pull it off. The Sub is arguably the most iconic diver extant, but that doesn't mean diddly-squat if you're looking to put something unique on your wrist.

My suggestion? Try them all on, and whichever one puts the biggest smile on your face is the watch you buy first.

Regards,
Adam

PS - FWIW, if it were me, the answer would be the AP, hands down.

What Adam said... Besides how can you argue with "diddly-squat"?!?

hitman23 · 23 December 2014, 12:37 AM

Based on purely aesthetics, love the 372. But on the wrist it looks gigantic. I don't see how people wear as a daily watch.

Sub is great, but if you can afford AP, why not. It's the submariner for the rich.

Mfrankel2 · 23 December 2014, 12:42 AM

Started out many years ago with a series of Subs. Made the jump to PAM a few years ago but always missed the quality build and "real watch" feel that I had with a Rolex on wrist. Found myself in that void having gotten accustomed to a larger piece on the wrist but not enjoying the lack of accuracy & other QC PAM issues (you can actually feel the entire movement vibrate if you shake your hand in the wrong direction!)

Along came DSSD & problem solved! Made the jump to D-Blue DSSD a few months ago & not only do I have the perfect watch but now also a unique dial and a bit of history memorialized on my wrist. I know it's not the same for all & a bit of a "polarizing" piece but for me, particularly if you're looking for something that feels substantial and enjoy wearing a marvel of engineering, there's nothing better

AASH · 23 December 2014, 01:02 AM

SUB; trust me, you'll never be disappointed!

fullcourt · 23 December 2014, 01:08 AM

pam 372....much nicer and iconic

p-3000 movement winds like butter

Gerardus · 23 December 2014, 01:11 AM

Sub for me, because I am a huge SUB fan.

cervantes · 23 December 2014, 01:36 AM

Sub or AP. Pam doesn't do it for me. The AP is a stunning diver, but scratches easily and wears large and full. The Sub is just a beautifully engineered dive watch. Especially if you wear it on a nato or canvas strap. If you don't mind the ubiquity of the sub and it fits you well then I would say sub. I never get tired of wearing mine.

AK797 · 23 December 2014, 03:52 AM

Love the Diver but would get the subc first.

sturgeon123456 · 23 December 2014, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by applegrape

40mm is really outdated? Big watch is the trend?

I think its a classic, but it is also dated. I think most of the Swiss divers are over 40mm these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evad3

^^ IMO the big watch trend has been and gone (unless you're female of course)

. Classic sizes are making a comeback!

Not a trend. People are bigger now than when the sub was released...the watches have evolved to match the larger size.

jbsmith · 23 December 2014, 04:00 AM

I voted other....Rolex DSSD D blue. To me it's the ultimate diver and it appears you like a larger watch. Good luck.

jbsmith · 23 December 2014, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mfrankel2

Started out many years ago with a series of Subs. Made the jump to PAM a few years ago but always missed the quality build and "real watch" feel that I had with a Rolex on wrist. Found myself in that void having gotten accustomed to a larger piece on the wrist but not enjoying the lack of accuracy & other QC PAM issues (you can actually feel the entire movement vibrate if you shake your hand in the wrong direction!)

Along came DSSD & problem solved! Made the jump to D-Blue DSSD a few months ago & not only do I have the perfect watch but now also a unique dial and a bit of history memorialized on my wrist. I know it's not the same for all & a bit of a "polarizing" piece but for me, particularly if you're looking for something that feels substantial and enjoy wearing a marvel of engineering, there's nothing better

Completely agree. I'm wearing mine now.

tkerrmd · 23 December 2014, 04:07 AM

Dssd

tkerrmd · 23 December 2014, 04:23 AM

Dssd

1995akcoop · 23 December 2014, 04:40 AM

Pam not even in same league

Mystro · 23 December 2014, 04:44 AM

Panerai all the way. Nothing is as cleanly styled as a Panerai. Oh that Panerai lume!!

Manofsteelpt · 23 December 2014, 05:00 AM

AP Diver all day... If you're looking for other options, what about a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms?

sea-dweller · 23 December 2014, 05:05 AM

Sub, for sure!

Manofsteelpt · 23 December 2014, 05:06 AM

My Fifty Fathoms Calendar... Could be another option.

nauticajoe · 23 December 2014, 10:32 AM

Easy. Sub.

subtona · 23 December 2014, 10:42 AM

Submariner Is my first and last choice.

After you have that you can look elsewhere, not before.

Imho

Kyu · 23 December 2014, 10:56 AM

Not s Pam fan
So I vote SubC but I'm totally biased lol, yes I do own AP's as well but I find sub or dssd to be more comfortable

2nd choice would be the AP diver

applegrape · 23 December 2014, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniotes

My suggestion? Try them all on, and whichever one puts the biggest smile on your face is the watch you buy first.

I think this sentence is quite wise. i will try it.

Hairdude1 · 23 December 2014, 01:04 PM

GO big or go home, Quality over quantity

applegrape · 23 December 2014, 05:51 PM

submariner win the polls

applegrape · 23 December 2014, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AASH

SUB; trust me, you'll never be disappointed!

kenn18 · 23 December 2014, 06:16 PM

This is a Rolex Forum, no surprise most will vote the Sub!

Rashid.bk · 23 December 2014, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by applegrape

you mean submariner is a must? and then get the 372?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

Submariner Is my first and last choice.

After you have that you can look elsewhere, not before.

Imho

See what I mean.

dukerules · 24 December 2014, 12:10 AM

Can't lose with any of those three. But as much as I love the 372, and I wear mine often, it really would be my third choice. If you can make the AP Diver happen, I'd probably start there.

00pumpkin · 24 December 2014, 12:23 AM

Out of those, Id take the AP Diver. Although, I would take the SD4000 over the diver...

applegrape · 24 December 2014, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

Not s Pam fan
So I vote SubC but I'm totally biased lol, yes I do own AP's as well but I find sub or dssd to be more comfortable

2nd choice would be the AP diver

View Poll Results: What do you pick?
Rolex Submariner	86	49.14%
PAM 372 47mm	22	12.57%
AP Diver Steel 42mm	57	32.57%
Other, you name it!	10	5.71%
Voters: 175. You may not vote on this poll

23 December 2014, 01:08 AM	#35
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	pam 372....much nicer and iconic p-3000 movement winds like butter Attached Images __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

23 December 2014, 01:11 AM	#36
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	Sub for me, because I am a huge SUB fan. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

23 December 2014, 04:44 AM	#45
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,513	Panerai all the way. Nothing is as cleanly styled as a Panerai. Oh that Panerai lume!! __________________

23 December 2014, 05:06 AM	#48
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	My Fifty Fathoms Calendar... Could be another option. Attached Images

23 December 2014, 12:37 AM	#32
hitman23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: ny Posts: 765	Based on purely aesthetics, love the 372. But on the wrist it looks gigantic. I don't see how people wear as a daily watch. Sub is great, but if you can afford AP, why not. It's the submariner for the rich.

23 December 2014, 12:42 AM	#33
Mfrankel2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Marc Location: New york Watch: SD43,d-Blue, 16710 Posts: 1,010	Started out many years ago with a series of Subs. Made the jump to PAM a few years ago but always missed the quality build and "real watch" feel that I had with a Rolex on wrist. Found myself in that void having gotten accustomed to a larger piece on the wrist but not enjoying the lack of accuracy & other QC PAM issues (you can actually feel the entire movement vibrate if you shake your hand in the wrong direction!) Along came DSSD & problem solved! Made the jump to D-Blue DSSD a few months ago & not only do I have the perfect watch but now also a unique dial and a bit of history memorialized on my wrist. I know it's not the same for all & a bit of a "polarizing" piece but for me, particularly if you're looking for something that feels substantial and enjoy wearing a marvel of engineering, there's nothing better

23 December 2014, 01:02 AM	#34
AASH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Earth's Blue Sky Watch: LOVE Posts: 308	SUB; trust me, you'll never be disappointed!

23 December 2014, 01:36 AM	#37
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	Sub or AP. Pam doesn't do it for me. The AP is a stunning diver, but scratches easily and wears large and full. The Sub is just a beautifully engineered dive watch. Especially if you wear it on a nato or canvas strap. If you don't mind the ubiquity of the sub and it fits you well then I would say sub. I never get tired of wearing mine.

23 December 2014, 03:52 AM	#38
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Love the Diver but would get the subc first.

23 December 2014, 04:00 AM	#40
jbsmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Blake Location: US Watch: Daytonas Posts: 1,869	I voted other....Rolex DSSD D blue. To me it's the ultimate diver and it appears you like a larger watch. Good luck.

23 December 2014, 04:07 AM	#42
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Dssd

23 December 2014, 04:23 AM	#43
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Dssd

23 December 2014, 04:40 AM	#44
1995akcoop "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,162	Pam not even in same league

23 December 2014, 05:00 AM	#46
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	AP Diver all day... If you're looking for other options, what about a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms?

23 December 2014, 05:05 AM	#47
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Sub, for sure!

23 December 2014, 10:32 AM	#49
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Easy. Sub.

23 December 2014, 10:42 AM	#50
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	Submariner Is my first and last choice. After you have that you can look elsewhere, not before. Imho

23 December 2014, 10:56 AM	#51
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	Not s Pam fan So I vote SubC but I'm totally biased lol, yes I do own AP's as well but I find sub or dssd to be more comfortable 2nd choice would be the AP diver

23 December 2014, 01:04 PM	#53
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	GO big or go home, Quality over quantity Attached Images __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

23 December 2014, 05:51 PM	#54
applegrape Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: On The Beach Posts: 60	submariner win the polls

23 December 2014, 06:16 PM	#56
kenn18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: New City Watch: Rolex Posts: 169	This is a Rolex Forum, no surprise most will vote the Sub!

24 December 2014, 12:10 AM	#58
dukerules "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NC, USA Posts: 681	Can't lose with any of those three. But as much as I love the 372, and I wear mine often, it really would be my third choice. If you can make the AP Diver happen, I'd probably start there. __________________ Instagram: dukerules

24 December 2014, 12:23 AM	#59
00pumpkin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dustin Location: USA Posts: 1,980	Out of those, Id take the AP Diver. Although, I would take the SD4000 over the diver...

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