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buenosdias · 11 January 2015, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

That is not a Mark IV or Mark V dial.

I have seen it before and have yet to formulate an opinion on this dial. Below are examples of the W-4 (Mark IV) and W-5 (Mark V) dials.

As others noted, the 16750 case back is not correct for the watch.

Hi John,

I really respect your experience concerning GMTs, but this time I'm not 100 percent with you.

IMHO here we have an all correct Maxi from the end 70s (with service 16750 caseback).

Please let me explain my point of view:

I've seen many many 1675 in the last years and my observation is the following: The dial shown by the thread starter is to find often! and always in the 5 Million serial range. I've NEVER seen it in any other serial range!

The dial shown by you (W5) is also to be found in 5 Mio serials, but if've seen many many of these dials in ALL different serial ranges.

This, and the fact that this W5 dial is extremely near the typo and allignement of the first matte 16750 dials makes me think 2 things:

1. The W5 dial is a late 70s, beginning 80s matte tritium service dial

or

2. The W5 dial and the dial shown by the tread starter plus the W4 dial are the last 3 dials, mounted in he 1675.

I'm open for any new ideas and opinions!

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morafa4 · 11 January 2015, 10:38 PM

Wow. Awesome-eye, Springer - good catch!

TimeToGo · 11 January 2015, 11:00 PM

Just because the version is not seen much does not mean it is fake.

Here is one with such dial that was for sale on our forum as a reference:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=1675

Here are other versions of the Mk5, note the small opening at the bottom on a couple of them..

TimeToGo · 12 January 2015, 01:36 AM

...and a-nutter.. same as the OPs

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=1675

jfmiii · 12 January 2015, 10:25 AM

we all know who this is from. i will only say to be very careful. if you do a google search, do some digging on VRF, etc, you will find a lot of people question his watches. there is a reason he is banned from selling on VRF.

tread carefully.

anirudh.412 · 12 January 2015, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfmiii

we all know who this is from. i will only say to be very careful. if you do a google search, do some digging on VRF, etc, you will find a lot of people question his watches. there is a reason he is banned from selling on VRF.

tread carefully.

Banned? I thought he is still in the list of trusted sellers here?!

Edit: and he has MULTIPLE listings in the FS section here currently

TimeToGo · 12 January 2015, 08:20 PM

This thread is going nowhere real fast...

anirudh.412 · 12 January 2015, 08:35 PM

The entire thing with the laser welding? Well, as long as the parts are all original and authentic, I don't mind TBH. and this particular example is not sold 'untouched' or 'unpolished' anyway.

Still no definitive opinions about the dial?

TimeToGo · 13 January 2015, 12:53 AM

There is even one for sale at VRF...

I am actually beginning to like this dial...

.

anirudh.412 · 13 January 2015, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

There is even one for sale at VRF...

I am actually beginning to like this dial...

.

Well, that's settled then, if I get the watch and things go south, I can always count on you to take it from me

The_Walrus · 13 January 2015, 08:17 PM

OP given there are questions with regards to dial and fellows credentials best to wait for another piece.
Patience is key when buying vintage rolex.
Given this watch isn't on the cheaper side either best to let it go.
The right one will come along.
I'd ask springer personally to source you a 1675! It would be the direction I take.

anirudh.412 · 13 January 2015, 11:12 PM

Just curious, there's never been a case where he was found selling aftermarket or 'fake' parts, was he?

anirudh.412 · 13 January 2015, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Walrus

OP given there are questions with regards to dial and fellows credentials best to wait for another piece.
Patience is key when buying vintage rolex.
Given this watch isn't on the cheaper side either best to let it go.
The right one will come along.
I'd ask springer personally to source you a 1675! It would be the direction I take.

The issue is I am not currently in the US and won't be for quite some time. Any suggestions for shops to visit while in HK? TheVintageConcept seem to have a few.

nycpassat · 14 January 2015, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anirudh.412

Just curious, there's never been a case where he was found selling aftermarket or 'fake' parts, was he?

my personal experience with the seller is that he admittedly afterwards switched period correct dials on the watch that i had purchased.

nickb732 · 14 January 2015, 01:30 AM

For those of us who aren't so familiar, could someone share the name of the seller so we avoid getting bitten in the future if anyone wants to buy vintage?

morafa4 · 14 January 2015, 01:39 AM

Just out of curiosity, and this is tangently on topic... can anyone produce a non-GMT dial (either Explorer, Daytona, Submariner, SD, Airking, whatever) with the same styling of Rolex Font? I'm talking the same wide O, on any other watch? Nevermind trying to place it somewhere along/in-between the GMT Mark timeline, but rather place the font among any other watches. Just a thought.

HERITAGE82 · 14 January 2015, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickb732

For those of us who aren't so familiar, could someone share the name of the seller so we avoid getting bitten in the future if anyone wants to buy vintage?

nbTimes

anirudh.412 · 22 January 2015, 02:28 PM

Any other opinions on the OP dial?

Also, how does this look?
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=0#msg_6949514

CrownMe · 22 January 2015, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycpassat

my personal experience with the seller is that he admittedly afterwards switched period correct dials on the watch that i had purchased.

Can u elaborate on this? Why did he switch dials?

andypandy · 23 January 2015, 07:19 AM

I have a 1968 1575 , which had the dial changed to a service dial , about 12 years ago . The work was done by hamilton and Inches , of George St. Edinburgh . I didn't know about retaining original parts on Rolex , I was just happy to have a repair done on my insurance policy . The watch came back looking Brand New ! , AAGGGHHHH ! . If only I had known , what the hell , I was just a crazy 60 years old kid . The point I want to make is that , the C and E of certified do not line up under the C and H of chronometer . Do you think a reputable Rolex AD , who hold a Royal Warrant , would fit an aftermarket dial ? Discuss .

andypandy · 23 January 2015, 07:27 AM

Maybe a photo would help .

anirudh.412 · 24 January 2015, 04:35 PM

Orochi posted a variation of the mk5 dial in his thread. Is it just me or is the O the same wide variety?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=74976

TimeToGo · 24 January 2015, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andypandy

Maybe a photo would help .

No that's a service dial.

Check this thread out..

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=1675+dials

anirudh.412 · 2 February 2015, 03:45 AM

Well, I ended up meeting Ben and buying the watch from him. I truly appreciate all your expertise and help. The watch itself looks a million times better in real life than in the photos.

Just one question, anyone know where I can order a screwdriver to shorten a jubilee bracelet? It has a 50 written behind it. The couple of Rolex ADs I have gone to have a newer screwdriver that's too big.

Cheers,
Anirudh

GMT993 · 2 February 2015, 04:28 AM

I have a 1979 5mill serial number range 1675 GMT, it's away being serviced at the moment but when it comes back I would be more than happy to photograph its dial and upload here for anyone to compare!

springer · 2 February 2015, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anirudh.412

Well, I ended up meeting Ben and buying the watch from him. I truly appreciate all your expertise and help. The watch itself looks a million times better in real life than in the photos.

Just one question, anyone know where I can order a screwdriver to shorten a jubilee bracelet? It has a 50 written behind it. The couple of Rolex ADs I have gone to have a newer screwdriver that's too big.

Cheers,
Anirudh

Try a hardware store. ebay or Hobby Lobby.

anirudh.412 · 2 February 2015, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMT993

I have a 1979 5mill serial number range 1675 GMT, it's away being serviced at the moment but when it comes back I would be more than happy to photograph its dial and upload here for anyone to compare!

Please do!

TIA

PoderEsBueno · 3 February 2015, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anirudh.412

Well, I ended up meeting Ben and buying the watch from him. I truly appreciate all your expertise and help. The watch itself looks a million times better in real life than in the photos.

Cheers,
Anirudh

Congrats

anirudh.412 · 4 February 2015, 12:57 AM

In love

Edit: Pic upside down for some reason

TimeToGo · 4 February 2015, 08:13 AM

Excellent, congrats!

11 January 2015, 11:00 PM	#33
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Just because the version is not seen much does not mean it is fake. Here is one with such dial that was for sale on our forum as a reference: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=1675 Here are other versions of the Mk5, note the small opening at the bottom on a couple of them.. Attached Images

13 January 2015, 12:53 AM	#39
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	There is even one for sale at VRF... I am actually beginning to like this dial... . Attached Images

14 January 2015, 01:30 AM	#45
nickb732 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Nicholas Location: UK Posts: 2,630	For those of us who aren't so familiar, could someone share the name of the seller so we avoid getting bitten in the future if anyone wants to buy vintage? __________________ Nick

23 January 2015, 07:27 AM	#51
andypandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Andrew Location: Edinburgh Scotlan Watch: Rolrx GMT Master Posts: 381	Maybe a photo would help . Attached Images

24 January 2015, 04:35 PM	#52
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	Orochi posted a variation of the mk5 dial in his thread. Is it just me or is the O the same wide variety? http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=74976 Attached Images

11 January 2015, 10:38 PM	#32
morafa4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Alexander Location: New York, NY Watch: 16610, 1675, Cx Posts: 165	Wow. Awesome-eye, Springer - good catch!

12 January 2015, 01:36 AM	#34
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	...and a-nutter.. same as the OPs http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=1675

12 January 2015, 10:25 AM	#35
jfmiii "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16750/16800/126710 Posts: 1,426	we all know who this is from. i will only say to be very careful. if you do a google search, do some digging on VRF, etc, you will find a lot of people question his watches. there is a reason he is banned from selling on VRF. tread carefully.

12 January 2015, 08:20 PM	#37
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	This thread is going nowhere real fast...

12 January 2015, 08:35 PM	#38
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	The entire thing with the laser welding? Well, as long as the parts are all original and authentic, I don't mind TBH. and this particular example is not sold 'untouched' or 'unpolished' anyway. Still no definitive opinions about the dial?

13 January 2015, 08:17 PM	#41
The_Walrus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: George Location: Sydney Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,104	OP given there are questions with regards to dial and fellows credentials best to wait for another piece. Patience is key when buying vintage rolex. Given this watch isn't on the cheaper side either best to let it go. The right one will come along. I'd ask springer personally to source you a 1675! It would be the direction I take.

13 January 2015, 11:12 PM	#42
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	Just curious, there's never been a case where he was found selling aftermarket or 'fake' parts, was he?

14 January 2015, 01:39 AM	#46
morafa4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Alexander Location: New York, NY Watch: 16610, 1675, Cx Posts: 165	Just out of curiosity, and this is tangently on topic... can anyone produce a non-GMT dial (either Explorer, Daytona, Submariner, SD, Airking, whatever) with the same styling of Rolex Font? I'm talking the same wide O, on any other watch? Nevermind trying to place it somewhere along/in-between the GMT Mark timeline, but rather place the font among any other watches. Just a thought.

22 January 2015, 02:28 PM	#48
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	Any other opinions on the OP dial? Also, how does this look? http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=0#msg_6949514

23 January 2015, 07:19 AM	#50
andypandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Andrew Location: Edinburgh Scotlan Watch: Rolrx GMT Master Posts: 381	I have a 1968 1575 , which had the dial changed to a service dial , about 12 years ago . The work was done by hamilton and Inches , of George St. Edinburgh . I didn't know about retaining original parts on Rolex , I was just happy to have a repair done on my insurance policy . The watch came back looking Brand New ! , AAGGGHHHH ! . If only I had known , what the hell , I was just a crazy 60 years old kid . The point I want to make is that , the C and E of certified do not line up under the C and H of chronometer . Do you think a reputable Rolex AD , who hold a Royal Warrant , would fit an aftermarket dial ? Discuss .

2 February 2015, 03:45 AM	#54
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	Well, I ended up meeting Ben and buying the watch from him. I truly appreciate all your expertise and help. The watch itself looks a million times better in real life than in the photos. Just one question, anyone know where I can order a screwdriver to shorten a jubilee bracelet? It has a 50 written behind it. The couple of Rolex ADs I have gone to have a newer screwdriver that's too big. Cheers, Anirudh

2 February 2015, 04:28 AM	#55
GMT993 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wales,UK Watch: 1675. Speedy Pro. Posts: 30	I have a 1979 5mill serial number range 1675 GMT, it's away being serviced at the moment but when it comes back I would be more than happy to photograph its dial and upload here for anyone to compare!

4 February 2015, 12:57 AM	#59
anirudh.412 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Anirudh Location: Limbo Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 186	In love Edit: Pic upside down for some reason Attached Images

4 February 2015, 08:13 AM	#60
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Excellent, congrats!

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