How long do these watches sit at the AD?

[fishingbear]

My AD has some watches that go back to 2008 serials. The "handling marks" and swirls on some of the watches that sit a while are much worse on the PMs and 2tones than the SS models and they do get bad....
Of course, as someone stated before, the SS models don't tend to sit long.

[Mugszy27]

I bought a Daytona from an AD - the bezel had a number of scratches. They were happy to order me a brand new one and actually let me wear the one from the case until the new one came in. I was very surprised they let me wear the one from the case until the new one came in. I actually called them after I got home and verified this was ok - which it was.

[datejusting]

Originally Posted by Speed

Wow. Which model was it?

It is a ss turn o graph.

[datejusting]

Originally Posted by omx5o

So was it 'new' or vintage?

Perhaps this is why Rolex started random serials.

New watch, never sold before.

[Swaggy P]

Originally Posted by Hodog16

When I recently bought my wife her Datejust, I asked the AD how long it had been sitting in the case. They looked it up and were honest that it had been there for 6 months or so.

I don't think it's a huge deal as long as the stickers are intact. Seems like most big company AD's will locate a model from another store if desired which sat in a case there as well. I guess unless you see them take it out of the styrofoam from the factory there's no telling.

This is true. You have to make sure your AD only has one store. My AD is a single store, so my orders are always straight from the styrofoam!

Look, these watches are a ton of money, and I think it's bullshit that showcase watches are sold as new. It's not about the watches having stickers on them still...How many people have wrestled with the crown of that watch, etc...? You don't buy floor model furniture for retail, right?

[SUBversive]

Originally Posted by boywondergq1

According to them... seconds.

Unless there is a waiting list.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by datejusting

It is a ss turn o graph.

Gotcha.

That's definitely a watch with a select fan base...shall we say.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Swaggy P

This is true. You have to make sure your AD only has one store. My AD is a single store, so my orders are always straight from the styrofoam!

Look, these watches are a ton of money, and I think it's bullshit that showcase watches are sold as new. It's not about the watches having stickers on them still...How many people have wrestled with the crown of that watch, etc...? You don't buy floor model furniture for retail, right?

You are certainly entitle to special order a watch and wait for it but I wouldn't call it complete BS that watches in the display case are sold as new any more than cars on a dealer's lot are. People have been in and out of them turning all the knobs and dials, they've gotten rained on and washed, and the sun's been beating down on it's paint, and probably even been test driven.

It's just not realistic to expect an AD to keep a store full of these $10K+ timepieces for display purposes only. They come with a 2 year warranty to cover any problems from the hands being experimented with by potential buyers etc. You look it over good and if it has even one scratch or nick then don't buy it. Simple really.

[Swaggy P]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

You are certainly entitle to special order a watch and wait for it but I wouldn't call it complete BS that watches in the display case are sold as new any more than cars on a dealer's lot are. People have been in and out of them turning all the knobs and dials, they've gotten rained on and washed, and the sun's been beating down on it's paint, and probably even been test driven.

It's just not realistic to expect an AD to keep a store full of these $10K+ timepieces for display purposes only. They come with a 2 year warranty to cover any problems from the hands being experimented with by potential buyers etc. You look it over good and if it has even one scratch or nick then don't buy it. Simple really.

You're right about cars. If I'm buying a car, I'll order it. If leasing, dealer lot is fine.

The auto lot is a bad example when talking about leasing though... people who lease don't care about taking a car off the lot because they'll never own it anyway...and most people lease...

[Swaggy P]

The AD's should be sold "floor" models from Rolex, just like a furniture store... And if someone wants the floor model, they can pay the floor model price. It's not unrealistic at all.

[Finewatch]

And where do you think the trusted sellers get their watches?

[AF_Rob]

Originally Posted by Swaggy P

The AD's should be sold "floor" models from Rolex, just like a furniture store... And if someone wants the floor model, they can pay the floor model price. It's not unrealistic at all.

Yes it is... You are basically saying all watches in the case are "floor" models. As stated above, you are well within your right to order and wait.

If you want to haggle on a piece in the case, you can certainly walk out with a 10% discount.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Finewatch

And where do you think the trusted sellers get their watches?

Yes, but at least they come at a nice discount. Good luck having an AD match the prices on TRF for SS sports models.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Swaggy P

The AD's should be sold "floor" models from Rolex, just like a furniture store... And if someone wants the floor model, they can pay the floor model price. It's not unrealistic at all.

You keep comparing it to furniture. Go into a fine furniture store and point to a dining room table and ask for a new one from the back..there is no new one in back. You have to order it and wait 8-12 weeks. It's sitting in pieces a lumber yard because it hasn't even been made at that point. That's why you have to wait. If you're talking about lower end furniture that is warehoused, well that's not the same thing. Now, you can go to the mall kiosk and get a BNIB Casio from under the counter that hasn't been fondled by look-e-loos. Now that's the same thing.

It's simply not reasonable to expect a local AD to have the capitalization to carry a store full of Rolexes (plus I suppose all the diamond rings, emerald/ruby bracelets, and gold chains) as display models.

[fishingbear]

[QUOTE=Perhaps this is why Rolex started random serials.[/QUOTE]

I believe this to be a very good reason.

[Swaggy P]

Rolex should sell the AD's discounted floor models! My furniture example makes perfect sense, as you illustrated: You order the furniture and wait! Or, you buy the floor model cheaper! A furniture store has the additional issue of square footage space required, yet you guys think a Rolex AD can't conceivably have floor models? Why are you guys such apologists for these AD's??? F 'em!

I got 15% off of my ordered Rolex, by the way--because I paid in cash. It was either order it and get a sale from me, or I go elsewhere...

[donq]

Originally Posted by Swaggy P

Rolex should sell the AD's discounted floor models! My furniture example makes perfect sense, as you illustrated: You order the furniture and wait! Or, you buy the floor model cheaper! A furniture store has the additional issue of square footage space required, yet you guys think a Rolex AD can't conceivably have floor models? Why are you guys such apologists for these AD's??? F 'em!

I got 15% off of my ordered Rolex, by the way--because I paid in cash. It was either order it and get a sale from me, or I go elsewhere...

My man Swaggy P! Testify! Don't let the AD keep you down!

[steptoe]

The old Daytona that sold for a million dollars last year had sat in an AD's safe for 8 years before it was sold new..

[dabbotjordan]

Originally Posted by the sub-lime one

until they are sold?

x1

[Divingdud]

Buying a Daytona with the most up to date movement would be a reason for me to order again to replace my 6 year old model. Looking up the spec for a Daytona, the movement 4130 is described as having 60 per cent of the number of movement parts reduced, a vertical clutch, and the mainspring energy increased from 50hrs to 72hrs. Also the mainspring unit can be removed without disassemble of the movement!
If I place an order, the waiting list in UK for a s/s is about 4-6 years, if the s/s models are held back ( as some on these pages have suggested) and when the order comes through, would it be reasonable to refuse the s/s Daytona if the movement was not the latest 4130 with 72hrs mainspring?

[Hodog16]

The auto comparison isn't exactly the same as a lot of people test drive cars just for fun and "let 'er rip" which can be bad for new cars that aren't broken in.

People trying on watches aren't going scuba diving with them, etc.

Buying furniture as others have said, usually unless it's in a certain color it has to be made which does take weeks or sometimes months before it shows up. Usually you don't buy the floor model unless it's the last one or discontinued in which case it's discounted any way.

I don't have a big hang up on Rolexes from the case, but when I buy cars I like them to be as low miles as possible.

Bottom line is Rolex buyers are a finicky bunch .

[Dr. Robert]

I bought a pre-owned D serial 114270 explorer in 2010...it was sold new in 2009.....the D serial is a 2005 production date if I'm correct.....

[AndyK]

There was an AD by me that carries Omega and Breitling and last year they had a quartz gen 1 Omega Aqua Terra. I asked how long they had it and they said they thought since 2005. I whistled or something to show my shock, then they said "that's nothing" and they showed me a 16 year old Breitling, I can't remember the model but it had a very 90s look to it.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by Divingdud

If I place an order, the waiting list in UK for a s/s is about 4-6 years, if the s/s models are held back ( as some on these pages have suggested) and when the order comes through, would it be reasonable to refuse the s/s Daytona if the movement was not the latest 4130 with 72hrs mainspring?

All the Daytonas come with the 4130 movement now. If you're planning on waiting 4-6 years for a watch, you would have more concerns with a 116520 coming in when (or if) Rolex has updated the Daytona again.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by Finewatch

And where do you think the trusted sellers get their watches?

They get them from AD's. Usually shipped to them from the AD in the plastic shipping coffin and untouched. Certainly not tried on by dozens of dirty hands. This is why I went the trusted seller route. My watch was brand new in box, never tried on by anyone and I saved some serious coin over purchasing it at my local AD. I get to peel the stickers off it and I get to put the first scratch on it. Not some other monkey.

[Finewatch]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

They get them from AD's. Usually shipped to them from the AD in the plastic shipping coffin and untouched. Certainly not tried on by dozens of dirty hands. This is why I went the trusted seller route. My watch was brand new in box, never tried on by anyone and I saved some serious coin over purchasing it at my local AD. I get to peel the stickers off it and I get to put the first scratch on it. Not some other monkey.

Was not intending to knock TS on the forum, just pointing out that as new watches got to come from somewhere and my guess is AD's unless Rolex ships out the back door.
Personally bought from some fantastic resellers on this forum and totally satisfied.

[Swaggy P]

You guys keep saying my furniture example is bad, yet you keep proving my point with it! Lol... Yes, when you order a watch, you wait for it, just like ordering furniture. What is your point???

[Divingdud]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

All the Daytonas come with the 4130 movement now. If you're planning on waiting 4-6 years for a watch, you would have more concerns with a 116520 coming in when (or if) Rolex has updated the Daytona again.

Actually, it's not a bad idea to have on order a watch like the s/s Daytona, because it's something to look forward to and the years soon pass.
For those of us who switch wearing watches, the improvement of a 72hour energy supply reduces the need to either put the watch on a winder, or reset after a couple of days. I suppose what I want is feel certain that when the watch arrives (if ordered) it will have the most up-to-date movement.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Swaggy P

You guys keep saying my furniture example is bad, yet you keep proving my point with it! Lol... Yes, when you order a watch, you wait for it, just like ordering furniture. What is your point???

The point is you HAVE to order the furniture and wait. Walk into a Rolex AD and you can walk out with a fully stickered new watch without a scratch on it with a full two year factory warranty. Much more similar to the car buying experience.

I'm not sure what your gripe is. You insist on a "factory fresh" watch and you were able to order it, and got a discount to boot. What's your point?

[Swaggy P]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

The point is you HAVE to order the furniture and wait. Walk into a Rolex AD and you can walk out with a fully stickered new watch without a scratch on it with a full two year factory warranty. Much more similar to the car buying experience.

I'm not sure what your gripe is. You insist on a "factory fresh" watch and you were able to order it, and got a discount to boot. What's your point?

So you're ignoring that you could also buy the floor model from the furniture store??? For a significant discount??? Your "stickered" watch may have been handled by over 100 customers before you bought it! How is that new? Furthermore, you'll get a minimal discount, if any...