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Urosfan · 30 March 2015, 12:10 PM

Sorry to hear it

omitohud · 30 March 2015, 12:10 PM

Have u filed a police report?

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Ca$hOnly · 30 March 2015, 12:11 PM

The Charles Gazal profile CG416 on TRF lists him as "banned". I wonder if this is related?

crfsocal · 30 March 2015, 12:16 PM

that is terrible, good luck with everything... really hope your bank can help you out.

Nycturbovr6 · 30 March 2015, 12:20 PM

Sorry to hear this. I hate how people scam

jjnd08 · 30 March 2015, 12:22 PM

Damn, sorry to hear.

Good luck getting your funds back.

engin33r · 30 March 2015, 12:27 PM

Sorry to hear that =( thanks for posting, we should all take pre cautions.

Jfullm42 · 30 March 2015, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afghanvet

Great idea... how??

PM a mod on watchuseek and let him know what happened. I saw my photos from a BLNR I sold awhile back on watchuseek with my same listing copied and pasted recently. I messaged a moderator and he took it down and thanked me. It's a crazy and messed up world we live in. Sad. Sorry man!

Roost5o · 30 March 2015, 12:33 PM

That makes ME feel sick. I can only imagine how you feel. Sorry to hear.

Chadridv · 30 March 2015, 12:33 PM

Sorry if this has been covered, I kind of skipped to the end here. But if you paid this a-hole with a bank wire or PayPal getting your money back may not be easy, but def possible, but don't forget, what this guy did was illegal. Theft and identify fraud to state just a few laws broken.

If you haven't already done so, file a police report and have them find out the identity of this guy.

Sorry, first and foremost should have been that I'm sorry this happened to you and hope things will work out for you. Thanks for sharing and the precautionary tale.

opaline460 · 30 March 2015, 12:36 PM

Sorry to heard, hope you get your fund back.

Afghanvet · 30 March 2015, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe.King

Is this the guy?
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f30/rol...d-1628298.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f30/fs-...c-1724730.html

That'd be him (her...)

Afghanvet · 30 March 2015, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omitohud

Have u filed a police report?

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Not as easy as one would expect... have to go to the station in person tomorrow...

NoVaSubowner · 30 March 2015, 12:46 PM

The real Charles Gazal listed his ph number in his ads. So sorry to hear about this.

handsfull · 30 March 2015, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afghanvet

That'd be him (her...)

I reported it on WUS forum as I'm a member there also. Contact your bank tonight if you can....retract that wire!

Coincidentally...I have also done business with the REAL Charles Gazal.....great guy/solid....and I've seen him on this forum. I hope he doesn't suffer any ill effects from this scammer.

fishingbear · 30 March 2015, 12:53 PM

Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you'll be able to get the wire retracted.

ssultan · 30 March 2015, 01:11 PM

That's horrible man. Really blows.

vitalsignsrn · 30 March 2015, 01:23 PM

Terrible, sorry to hear.

Bruin Watch · 30 March 2015, 01:32 PM

That sucks. Hopefully the bank will be able to help you out. Either way, best of luck getting this behind you.

ronin_ph · 30 March 2015, 01:39 PM

What country did you send funds to?

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omitohud · 30 March 2015, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afghanvet

Not as easy as one would expect... have to go to the station in person tomorrow...

He committed a fraud which is a felony. If he ever get caught, i hope he does, this will haunt him for the rest of his life.

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Al1969 · 30 March 2015, 01:40 PM

Terrible news AfghanVet. Hope it all works out for you at the end. I've only completed A
a handful of transactions with known sellers here. I guess I have been fortunate. Best of luck in getting your money back.

ndsleep612 · 30 March 2015, 02:06 PM

Sorry to hear about the experience. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it is a duck.

I ran into a similar experience with a seller in North Carolina. The guy disappeared when I requested contact information and references. Apparently all the watch forums have been flooded by these too good to be true deals.

StevePirates · 30 March 2015, 02:08 PM

It has been said in this thread already, but it bears repeating. Do not blame yourself, do not feel like it is your fault in the slightest.

busytimmy · 30 March 2015, 02:18 PM

Ugh :(

sea-dweller · 30 March 2015, 02:33 PM

That sucks! I hope it works out for you.

Ruud Van Driver · 30 March 2015, 02:36 PM

Really sorry to hear this. I hope your bank work with you and get your money back and I sincerely hope that b4stard gets what's coming. People like that are the lowest of the low and I am seriously not ok with that.

Mr. Vegas · 30 March 2015, 02:47 PM

Man, sorry to hear this.

HogwldFLTR · 30 March 2015, 02:55 PM

Terrible news; so many pitfalls where people can be taken advantage of. Sorry to hear of this.

x65975 · 30 March 2015, 05:03 PM

Unfortunately, the only way to get your money back is through criminal and civil litigation.

The only way to cancel a bank wire is to send a cancel notice prior to the receiving bank accepting the payment. The receiving bank would then just cancel it and your money would be returned. After the payment has been accepted, it can be reversed IF the sending bank made a mistake.

Sorry bud.

30 March 2015, 12:33 PM	#39
Roost5o "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Gregg Location: Savannah Watch: Da Hulk Posts: 652	That makes ME feel sick. I can only imagine how you feel. Sorry to hear. __________________ Hulk PAM01033

30 March 2015, 01:40 PM	#52
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,640	Terrible news AfghanVet. Hope it all works out for you at the end. I've only completed A a handful of transactions with known sellers here. I guess I have been fortunate. Best of luck in getting your money back. __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

30 March 2015, 02:33 PM	#56
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	That sucks! I hope it works out for you. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

30 March 2015, 02:36 PM	#57
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,926	Really sorry to hear this. I hope your bank work with you and get your money back and I sincerely hope that b4stard gets what's coming. People like that are the lowest of the low and I am seriously not ok with that. __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

30 March 2015, 02:55 PM	#59
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	Terrible news; so many pitfalls where people can be taken advantage of. Sorry to hear of this. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

30 March 2015, 12:10 PM	#31
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,372	Sorry to hear it

30 March 2015, 12:10 PM	#32
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Have u filed a police report? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 March 2015, 12:11 PM	#33
Ca$hOnly "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tim Location: Dallas Posts: 83	The Charles Gazal profile CG416 on TRF lists him as "banned". I wonder if this is related?

30 March 2015, 12:16 PM	#34
crfsocal "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 690	that is terrible, good luck with everything... really hope your bank can help you out.

30 March 2015, 12:20 PM	#35
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	Sorry to hear this. I hate how people scam

30 March 2015, 12:22 PM	#36
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	Damn, sorry to hear. Good luck getting your funds back.

30 March 2015, 12:27 PM	#37
engin33r "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Andy Location: GMT +7 Watch: Sub, Daytona, DD2 Posts: 742	Sorry to hear that =( thanks for posting, we should all take pre cautions.

30 March 2015, 12:33 PM	#40
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,357	Sorry if this has been covered, I kind of skipped to the end here. But if you paid this a-hole with a bank wire or PayPal getting your money back may not be easy, but def possible, but don't forget, what this guy did was illegal. Theft and identify fraud to state just a few laws broken. If you haven't already done so, file a police report and have them find out the identity of this guy. Sorry, first and foremost should have been that I'm sorry this happened to you and hope things will work out for you. Thanks for sharing and the precautionary tale.

30 March 2015, 12:36 PM	#41
opaline460 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,386	Sorry to heard, hope you get your fund back.

30 March 2015, 12:46 PM	#44
NoVaSubowner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Alexandria, VA Watch: Love them. Posts: 1,095	The real Charles Gazal listed his ph number in his ads. So sorry to hear about this.

30 March 2015, 12:53 PM	#46
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,549	Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you'll be able to get the wire retracted.

30 March 2015, 01:11 PM	#47
ssultan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Sameer Location: ON, Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 718	That's horrible man. Really blows.

30 March 2015, 01:23 PM	#48
vitalsignsrn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Judy Location: Ontario Watch: 116234 - 14060M Posts: 4,607	Terrible, sorry to hear.

30 March 2015, 01:32 PM	#49
Bruin Watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LAX DFW Watch: RolexOmegaCartier Posts: 812	That sucks. Hopefully the bank will be able to help you out. Either way, best of luck getting this behind you.

30 March 2015, 01:39 PM	#50
ronin_ph "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 911	What country did you send funds to? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 March 2015, 02:06 PM	#53
ndsleep612 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF Watch: Ex.2. Posts: 512	Sorry to hear about the experience. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it is a duck. I ran into a similar experience with a seller in North Carolina. The guy disappeared when I requested contact information and references. Apparently all the watch forums have been flooded by these too good to be true deals.

30 March 2015, 02:08 PM	#54
StevePirates "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 204	It has been said in this thread already, but it bears repeating. Do not blame yourself, do not feel like it is your fault in the slightest.

30 March 2015, 02:18 PM	#55
busytimmy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 3,745	Ugh :(

30 March 2015, 02:47 PM	#58
Mr. Vegas "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Rick Location: Las Vegas Watch: me roll the dice Posts: 377	Man, sorry to hear this.

30 March 2015, 05:03 PM	#60
x65975 Banned Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: a couple... Posts: 65	Unfortunately, the only way to get your money back is through criminal and civil litigation. The only way to cancel a bank wire is to send a cancel notice prior to the receiving bank accepting the payment. The receiving bank would then just cancel it and your money would be returned. After the payment has been accepted, it can be reversed IF the sending bank made a mistake. Sorry bud.

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