15202 and 15400 difference?

[Abdullasaif]

Originally Posted by TheMethod

That is the only thing I don't like about the 15202 but going back and forth from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock isn't that bad.

Really I think that's a part of the charm of the watch


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[Mak2013]

Lack of seconds hand is a deal breaker to me.
For this watch, and for any automatic watch for that matter.

Quality of a movement is reflected in bps which is reflected how second hand sweeps. And to me, that's a beauty.
Thus, I would never consider 15202

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Mak2013

Lack of seconds hand is a deal breaker to me.
For this watch, and for any automatic watch for that matter.
Quality of a movement is reflected in bps which is reflected how second hand sweeps. And to me, that's a beauty.
Thus, I would never consider 15202

disagree
lack of a seconds hand would be more of a deal breaker in a manual wind movement because if not wound it will stop at some point vs automatic movement which will continue unless the movement breaks in which case there is nothing that can be done… but i have owned manual panerai without a seconds hand and it was not a problem (000)

and

disagree.

18000 vs 28000 bps is only 1 aspect of a movement it could be related to accuracy but not necessarily quality…
among other things i value are finishing of the components, durability and reliability.

[Mak2013]

Originally Posted by subtona

disagree

lack of a seconds hand would be more of a deal breaker in a manual wind movement because if not wound it will stop at some point vs automatic movement which will continue unless the movement breaks in which case there is nothing that can be done… but i have owned manual panerai without a seconds hand and it was not a problem (000)



and



disagree.



18000 vs 28000 bps is only 1 aspect of a movement it could be related to accuracy but not necessarily quality…

among other things i value are finishing of the components, durability and reliability.

Still a deal breaker for me
I love sweeping seconds hand.
Higher beats make seconds hand move smoother.
Look at grand seiko. Its like a butter knife


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[subtona]

The smooth movement is nice

[yjfang]

I usually want to see movement on the dial, like at least a subsidiary seconds dial but for some reason I am totally cool with the 15202 without a seconds hand.

[vette boy 52]

Originally Posted by ap1

Love this one

Me too

[vette boy 52]

Originally Posted by ap1

Love this one

Me too

[TheMethod]

Originally Posted by Abdullasaif

Really I think that's a part of the charm of the watch


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Depending on the mood it can be charming... or annoying.

[Abdullasaif]

Originally Posted by TheMethod

Depending on the mood it can be charming... or annoying.

Very true 😄 still waiting on mine to arrive


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[APHK]

so how does one know how accurate the watch is without the second hand as a reference?

[Mak2013]

Originally Posted by APHK

so how does one know how accurate the watch is without the second hand as a reference?

Exactly.
Thats why im 15300 fan.
Plus they look exactly alike


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[Abdullasaif]

Originally Posted by APHK

so how does one know how accurate the watch is without the second hand as a reference?

Well it's a jumbo


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[sirish19]

Personally, I considered the lack of a second hand carefully before buying my Jumbo. I do like to see "life" of the watch through the ticking second hand and see how smoothly it glides. I often find myself looking at the second hand on my Rolex GMT and my Patek Annual Calendar but I also find the lack of a second hand to be part of the charm of the Jumbo. There is plenty to look at with this watch from the stunning bracelet to the magnificent patisserie. I don't find myself missing the second hand at all.

As for confirming the accuracy, many high-end watches don't have a hacking function anyway so I am not so bothered about accuracy. If I have to make an adjustment of a minute here or there every few weeks, it doesn't bother me. Just gives me another opportunity to "interact" with my watch.

One of the other differences with the Jumbo that I had considered carefully was the lack of the screw down crown and poor WR. Ultimately, I went with the Jumbo anyway because I have the Rolex GMT and if I want to wear a watch in the pool or in the ocean, that's the one I will wear. No sense in risking scratching the AP or a Patek just to be able to wear it for a swim. That's what a Rolex is for.

I compared the 15400, 15300, and 15202 and ended up going with the Jumbo for the whole package, pro's and con's, and it ended up being answered by the questions of how I wanted to use my watch and what I wanted to get out of it. You can't go wrong with any of those watches but the important thing is to get what you want and NEVER compromise.

[doc76]

Hi guys,
Considering adding my first AP. I've become addicted to the weight of my DDII and feel underwhelmed by most SS watches.

[00pumpkin]

Originally Posted by TheMethod

That is the only thing I don't like about the 15202 but going back and forth from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock isn't that bad.

Wait, so there isn't a quickset for the date???

[AS1]

Originally Posted by 00pumpkin

Wait, so there isn't a quickset for the date???

yeah no quickset you have to do 10 to 2 for the date

[AK797]

Originally Posted by doc76

Hi guys,
Considering adding my first AP. I've become addicted to the weight of my DDII and feel underwhelmed by most SS watches.

It will be quite a transition if you go for a SS, altho a ROO wears closer to a gold Rolex.