For the "fake patina" haters on the Black Bay

[Norms]

I dont think the black bay is a good example of this. I would say take a gander at zenith's pilot line and the new omega sm300. Much much worse faux patina going on there. That lume is more orange than jersey shore girls.

[travisb]

Depends on the individual reference. It works nicely on the BB.

[capote]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

No faux patina version:

Looks a tad cold.

Much better, now fix that mismatched hour hand and you got yourself a deal.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

I think a gilt dial is a little different than fake patina which is usually lume based. The gilt dial is designed to impart a vintage look but it doesn't seem as obvious an attempt as fake patina lume. I like the former and am a tad more critical of the latter if not used properly.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by eightbore

Except re-issues get to be a problem with materials like Radium. In a world where Luminova will probably never age, I would prefer a bit of pre-aging to something that will stay annoyingly white forever even as the rest of the watch takes on wear. Better a watch look a bit silly now with aged lume rather than silly forever when the dial and case and bracelet all have "patina" but the lume looks like it just left the factory.

Excellent point- makes sense to me.

When it comes to lume color I rather think of it as an alternative to stark white, nothing "faux" about it!

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

Do you also hate Panerai's "fake patina" on some of their watches also? I am just curious as I have seen people really poo poo the gilt dial on the Tudor Black Bay Black as well as the red one.

Actually yes. I do not like the "ecru " patina on Panerai, but I do like the dial in the Black Bay. In my opinion the fake patina on Panerai cheapens the look, but I feel the Black Bay looks great

[alanc]

Originally Posted by superdog

Omega also has a few serious pieces with faux patina. It's clearly a pretty popular style. Very attractive watches, for sure. The speedy 1957 just released is amazing.

Yes, saw the Omegas with faux patina. I think the Tudors pull it off better; in fact the BB is the only watch with it I'd wear, not because I have anything against faux patina philosophically, but because I think the BB black and red look so good with it.

[themaninblack]

A little bit of selective judgement going on here. The BB aside from its faux patina is entirely and deliberately faux vintage. Chapter ring dial, not used since the 60's, red triangle on bezel not used since the early 60's, font and layout 60's, snowflake hands not used in roughly 25 years, an aged finish applied to the dial, a faux distressed leather strap... But one thing where the watch is genuinely vintage is the technology of the watch which other than the luminova is essentially straight from the 60's.

[Jake B]

Originally Posted by Norms

I dont think the black bay is a good example of this. I would say take a gander at zenith's pilot line and the new omega sm300. Much much worse faux patina going on there. That lume is more orange than jersey shore girls.

That's simply false. It's a cream colour. Almost like if you took a glass of milk and added a few drops of coffee into it. Nothing orange about it at all.

[themaninblack]

Originally Posted by Jake B

That's simply false. It's a cream colour. Almost like if you took a glass of milk and added a few drops of coffee into it. Nothing orange about it at all.

I'm holding one right now, slightly yellowish/creamy under a normal incandescent light. Certainly not bright orange or orange at all really.

[Jake B]

Originally Posted by themaninblack

I'm holding one right now, slightly yellowish/creamy under a normal incandescent light. Certainly not bright orange or orange at all really.

Yep, got one on the wrist now. Nothing even remotely in the neighborhood of orange about it.

[bigwatchman]

Love it! BBBlue just felt too cold to me. Still like it though. The Red with the gold and cream..... Just right. I'm digging the black but the red is still tops in my stable...

[jshepard]

Hate is such a strong word... I'll stick with "not a fan of". And yes, not a fan of fake patina on Tudor, Panerai, Omega, etc... Haven't seen one yet that I've liked... It's like me dying my hair with gray highlights to look wiser...


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[Mr Daytona]

Interesting comments guys. I guess I look at as just a color scheme rather than "fake" anything. I am just a simple guy so what do I know.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by jshepard

Hate is such a strong word... I'll stick with "not a fan of". And yes, not a fan of fake patina on Tudor, Panerai, Omega, etc... Haven't seen one yet that I've liked... It's like me dying my hair with gray highlights to look wiser...


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[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

Interesting comments guys. I guess I look at as just a color scheme rather than "fake" anything. I am just a simple guy so what do I know.

Agree, it's just a different color. You can like or dislike the color.

[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

Interesting comments guys. I guess I look at as just a color scheme rather than "fake" anything. I am just a simple guy so what do I know.

+1

if paying respect to historical elements is a bad thing then man... this is a rough sport. Not everyone can afford the original.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by capote

Much better, now fix that mismatched hour hand and you got yourself a deal.

I don't mind the hand so much.

And I know it's a throw back, but for me, I like crown guards on a sport watch.

That said, I still might have one of these someday.

[Mr Daytona]

Originally Posted by superdog

I don't mind the hand so much.

And I know it's a throw back, but for me, I like crown guards on a sport watch.

That said, I still might have one of these someday.

It took me a little while to start liking the snow flake hands years ago but now I love them. Its something different and I learned to embrace that.

Now, the no crown guards is something I am hit or miss on. Some days I don't mind and some days I just don't like it at all.

[Syed117]

I went back and forth on the whole "fake patina" thing before I got this.

A lot of times you have to see it in person to see how the color really comes across.

Omega calls this vintage superluminova but it doesn't look like aged lume. It's more of a tan color and not yellow enough. The lume they've used on the new seamaster 300 looks more like fake patina to me. It's a bit more yellow. Even then it doesn't look like old lume.

I got over it and consider it a color choice as long as it looks good. Which I think this does.

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Why would someone dislike a gilt dial on a new watch; that doesn't make sense.

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

[997.2]

It's not on the lume plots so it's not disgenuine in my eyes


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[Mr Daytona]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

The older watches were not designed to show patina the way they do. Its just a by product of using the materials they had on had at the time.

[Mr Daytona]

Originally Posted by capote

Much better, now fix that mismatched hour hand and you got yourself a deal.

That looks cold and without any soul to me. Kinda like the Submariner looks anymore. No personality.

[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

Totally agree. The new subs leave me cold, like the blue BB, but that BB Black is so off the chart beautiful. I have to have it.

Probably these same people that hate the look also use the HEFE filter on all their Instagram pictures.

[Dr. Robert]

Originally Posted by B.B.B.

I don't like it unless it aged naturally

I concur.

[jshepard]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Would you ever buy a pair of pre-faded blue jeans?

I haven't worn jeans in a long time, usually stick to chinos, nothing against jeans just a personal comfort preference, but yes, you make a good point, "pre-worn" fashion is more common than I had originally thought.


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[Wingman244]

Wow, I have been looking at pictures of this beautiful watch. There is nothing "fake" about it. The lettering is gilt or gold coloring. It works very well with the black dial and bezel. Very crisp and very clean looking.

It's 2015 - even the Apple iWatch is doing gold and rose gold watches. Gold is in. Stark and crisp white design is so 2000's. I am glad they decided not to do a homage to the 2000's by making all the lettering white and crisp - boring. So yesterday.

I beginning to think my Polar Explorer 2 is looking dated.

[Luap1976]

Originally Posted by capote

Much better, now fix that mismatched hour hand and you got yourself a deal.

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[Amer]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Excellent point- makes sense to me.

When it comes to lume color I rather think of it as an alternative to stark white, nothing "faux" about it!

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To me the "warmer" whites (read: ecru, light beige, tan on the lume) seem to tie in the remaining colours on the dial. Stark, bright white to me is too contrasting, but it looks good on the blue dials or modern designs etc.

I have no issues with the retro look...It's being done on car designs, watches some apparel etc