What will replace carbon and ceramic divers?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Yes, but ceramic’s achilles heel is its brittleness, if dropped or clunked against something hard.
Where typical DLC coatings used by Swiss manufacturers is 2000-3500 HV (Vickers hardness scale), the company Linde Werdelin uses, offers 5000 Hv.
The Oktopus Moonlite is similarly as hard, with the clear coating it uses.

http://www.lindewerdelin.com/thelab/...istory-of-dlc/
http://www.lindewerdelin.com/thelab/the-beauty-of-alw/

Yes but the AP ceramic is hard enough to not break you just need to be a little careful with it and nothing will happen, it's not a beater if you need a beater then you take a sub or in worse case a SS diver, I've never heard anyone on this forum saying they chipped their CE AP, it's a sports watch but just not made for sports in which there are risks of shocks, it suits me just fine

Originally Posted by GB-man

Indeed me as well! We are on opposite courses. You have a Patek void and I an AP void

Hopefully they both deliver so we have some good pieces to look forward to

Don't worry, I'll get my Patek back when I can as I'm sure you'll get the AP you want as well, where there's a will there's a way

[EastCoastTime]

I have the Black Ceramic Diver in stock if anyone is looking.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by EastCoastTime

I have the Black Ceramic Diver in stock if anyone is looking.

Well I have mine so not looking really an awesome watch, but I'm sure they're gonna bring us 1 or a few awesome ones soon

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by lapince

Yes but the AP ceramic is hard enough to not break you just need to be a little careful with it and nothing will happen,…

I was talking about ceramic cases in general, not AP specifically.
I would have said titanium is a dead cert, what with the QE II Cup chrono limited edition they did – but if they did go down that route, along with a ceramic bezel, they’d be playing right into the hands of the fake market, as it appears that diver version already exists.
Of course, that idea may’ve stemmed from the Ruben Barrichello II ROOC.

So for me, I’d say AP really need to step up their game on the materials front.

[lapince]

They already made one of my favorite combos possible, this one, but good luck finding one as i think they're really hard to come by, not impossible though but hard.

Probably my favorite diver with the CE...

[benlee]

Originally Posted by lapince

They already made one of my favorite combos possible, this one, but good luck finding one as i think they're really hard to come by, not impossible though but hard.

Probably my favorite diver with the CE...

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I tried it on once. Its quite heavy. The RG bezel add a lot of weight despite the Ti case. Personally I find gold parts strange on a diving watch.

[Colin W]

Originally Posted by benlee

I tried it on once. Its quite heavy. The RG bezel add a lot of weight despite the Ti case. Personally I find gold parts strange on a diving watch.

Ben, the case is made of tantalum that is why the QE2 diver is so heavy, slightly more than RG RC ROO.
I passed on one as grey price was very high. Great looking piece, though I'm happy with my ceramic Diver



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[benlee]

Originally Posted by Colin W

Ben, the case is made of tantalum that is why the QE2 diver is so heavy, slightly more than RG RC ROO.
I passed on one as grey price was very high. Great looking piece, though I'm happy with my ceramic Diver



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You are correct! My mistake. It's tantalum.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by benlee

I tried it on once. Its quite heavy. The RG bezel add a lot of weight despite the Ti case. Personally I find gold parts strange on a diving watch.

Originally Posted by benlee

You are correct! My mistake. It's tantalum.

Yes Ben and tantalum is heavier than gold, it's almost the same weight density as platinum, so yes very heavy piece, but the grey bluish color of tantalum is awesome, I don't have anything against gold on diving watches, I mean all the real diver brands, Rolex, Blancpain and Panerai, some might not agree but for me those are the 3 brands with diving history, make gold models, so am not shocked in any way by that, I love the mix tantalum RG, the only turn off might be the big weight if it's really too much, but I love the looks of it

[jdkrut]

I agree -- this is the year of the "reimagined" Rubberclad ... which will now be ceramic

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by jdkrut

I agree -- this is the year of the "reimagined" Rubberclad ... which will now be ceramic

I hope you are wrong for my bank account's sake. Also I think it would cannibalize the 44RG which they don't want.

[exiger77]

Expect New diver with chrono will be introduced and coming.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by exiger77

Expect New diver with chrono will be introduced and coming.

Whaaaaat?

Integrated or modular? In house? Or f piguet?

[Dickson Lim]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Whaaaaat?

Integrated or modular? In house? Or f piguet?

Be patient my friend.

[masterserg]

Off topic, but I've read some rumors about the possibility of AP being acquired? Chanel was mentioned.

You know, it's just the internet ... but I really hope none of this is true.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Off topic, but I've read some rumors about the possibility of AP being acquired? Chanel was mentioned.

You know, it's just the internet ... but I really hope none of this is true.

No you got it all wrong, it's not Chanel but Mickael Kors, and they already signed they're announcing it next week

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by lapince

No you got it all wrong, it's not Chanel but Mickael Kors, and they already signed they're announcing it next week

Ha .. well, it's the internet .. anybody can say anything. I read it somewhere but can't find it now. Both brands already worked together though.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Off topic, but I've read some rumors about the possibility of AP being acquired? Chanel was mentioned.

You know, it's just the internet ... but I really hope none of this is true.

Well Chanel specialise in ceramic watches so if the 42mms get that treatment many will be happy.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Ha .. well, it's the internet .. anybody can say anything. I read it somewhere but can't find it now. Both brands already worked together though.

Well I'd have a heart attack if Chanel or Kors was to buy AP, we're talking horology on one side fashion watches on the other, at the same time many swiss brands were saved thanks to Swatch creator, without him the industry might look very different right now, so anything is always possible

Originally Posted by AK797

Well Chanel specialise in ceramic watches so if the 42mms get that treatment many will be happy.

Neil my friend, Chanel and AP ceramic are not at all the same material if you ask me, a friend's wife loves Chanel jewelry and has a few rings and others she even wanted a watch, probably got it since she gave birth not long ago, I'm sorry if there are fans here but for me it's CRAP, but very expensive crap for what it is…

[lapince]

I would love an all grey ceramic or cermet diver with anthracite dial, that would look awesome and really make me want one

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by lapince

Well I'd have a heart attack if Chanel or Kors was to buy AP, we're talking horology on one side fashion watches on the other, at the same time many swiss brands were saved thanks to Swatch creator, without him the industry might look very different right now, so anything is always possible



Neil my friend, Chanel and AP ceramic are not at all the same material if you ask me, a friend's wife loves Chanel jewelry and has a few rings and others she even wanted a watch, probably got it since she gave birth not long ago, I'm sorry if there are fans here but for me it's CRAP, but very expensive crap for what it is…

This is what I read:

http://www.watch-insider.com/news/rumors-rumors-rumors/

(second bullet).

[Deseble]

Originally Posted by masterserg

This is what I read:

http://www.watch-insider.com/news/rumors-rumors-rumors/

(second bullet).

Thanks for the link. Hopefully the AP rumor is unfounded dribble...

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[singe89]

Originally Posted by masterserg

This is what I read:

http://www.watch-insider.com/news/rumors-rumors-rumors/

(second bullet).

Since that article is from April of 2013 I assume we would have heard more rumors by now if it was even remotely true.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by singe89

Since that article is from April of 2013 I assume we would have heard more rumors by now if it was even remotely true.

Right... I should have checked the date :)

[alubin]

Not to take this off track, but pretty sure Chanel watches have AP movements in them...At least they did at some point.

[singe89]

Originally Posted by alubin

Not to take this off track, but pretty sure Chanel watches have AP movements in them...At least they did at some point.

Correct the J12 launched in 2008 had a version of the AP 3120.

http://www.thewatchquote.com/Chanel-...ic-No_6304.htm