Deepsea or Deep Blue?

[Ruud Van Driver]

I'm obviously missing something here, but the question of whether or not the 'premium' of the D-Blue is worth it never ceases to amaze me. The premium on UK retail price is £250 (US$ 355). Ok, I do not have £250 to set fire to but when paying over £8,000 (US$11,365) then a £250 premium is academic. It is, without a shadow of a doubt, worth every single penny (cent).

[Token74]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I'm obviously missing something here, but the question of whether or not the 'premium' of the D-Blue is worth it never ceases to amaze me. The premium on UK retail price is £250 (US$ 355). Ok, I do not have £250 to set fire to but when paying over £8,000 (US$11,365) then a £250 premium is academic. It is, without a shadow of a doubt, worth every single penny (cent).

From a financial perspective, absolutely spot on and a good observation.

People used to moan about the price of the 116600 compared to the Sub, but it's relatively negligible. There is a £300 premium in the UK between a 116610 LN and a 116610 LV, but I have never heard anyone question that from a financial perspective. For some reason, the SD range attracts 'value' questions.

[travisb]

Definitely worth it. The Deepsea in either variation is an amazing watch but the D Blue brings the cool factor to the next level.

[Psmith]

D-Blue, no doubt.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Quite right.

However, the D-Blue is a dial variant of the same model watch that JC wore during the dive.
It's produced to commemorate the deepest solo dive in history.
No claims have ever been made about the D-Blue dial variation being worn during the dive by anyone or organization.

Given the above, It actually doesn't matter what variant was worn during the dive.

Not taking into consideration it's inherent beauty and uniqueness of the colour transition, it has a different personality in different lighting conditions which is a delight to behold.
The major factor is the D-Blue is hard to get anywhere at the small premium of the RRP.
Due to low supply levels it's exclusive unless one is prepared to pay a healthy premium in the grey market. In which case one could probably acquire one within a week depending upon the market.

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

[brandrea]

I prefer the black dial.

The DBlue is very nice, but I'm just not into commemorative watches.

[fskywalker]

I will never buy neither as they are too thick for my taste....... Color wise think black looks better


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[DCgator]

I much prefer the original basic black. Love mine since I acquired in 2010 and just after one week brought it along my deployment to GTMO (on Isofrane strap).

[HOHO]

I've owned both.
I love the Deep Blue way better!

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[GoingPlaces]

If you can afford it go blue. Otherwise black is just fine.

[Daytona88]

Originally Posted by eonflux

The market confers a higher value on the D-Blue
What's that dial worth to you?

How much more would you pay for a red Sub or Paul Newman Daytona than their respective standard models?

Excellent point!

[KBM]

I actually prefer the classic black version. When you add the 2,5k cost difference, it's a no brainer to me.

[KBM]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I'm obviously missing something here, but the question of whether or not the 'premium' of the D-Blue is worth it never ceases to amaze me. The premium on UK retail price is £250 (US$ 355). Ok, I do not have £250 to set fire to but when paying over £8,000 (US$11,365) then a £250 premium is academic. It is, without a shadow of a doubt, worth every single penny (cent).

Originally Posted by Token74

From a financial perspective, absolutely spot on and a good observation.

People used to moan about the price of the 116600 compared to the Sub, but it's relatively negligible. There is a £300 premium in the UK between a 116610 LN and a 116610 LV, but I have never heard anyone question that from a financial perspective. For some reason, the SD range attracts 'value' questions.

Guys, the price difference comments are probably related to the fact that a bnib black dssd is readily available for less than 10k usd, while the d-blue goes for around 12,5k usd. This is in the US, at least.

[Triple Crown]

Precisely. Just look at the prices offered by trusted sellers for BNIB black vs. blue dials. The spread is way more than retail prices would suggest.

[antbkny]

is the dblue dial worth the premium? thats up to you. you really need to see both in person to decide. both dials are great but the black really does it for me, has more of a serious piece of hardware look.

[Micha]

Originally Posted by Danny83

I would buy a black DSSD and another watch instead of the blue

yupp the price difference is HUGE...

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by kauebm

Guys, the price difference comments are probably related to the fact that a bnib black dssd is readily available for less than 10k usd, while the d-blue goes for around 12,5k usd. This is in the US, at least.

WHAT???
Is this truly serious????
Surely not. This is incredulous.
I can understand this being the case through the grey market where people are desperate to get their hands on one, but surely not through an AD or Boutique?

If I recall correctly, I recently paid $500 AUS extra for the D-Blue which is the List price.

[RACER_X]

Search the For sale ads, regular DSSD are usually around $8-9k, deep sea, $12k+

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

I don't understand where the lie is?
And what is the lie?
Who's lying?
Quite frankly I'm rather confused now

Besides, I'm not so sure that JC will be selling his personal watch any time soon so you'll be waiting for a long time to pick it up.
How much do you think it's worth as it currently stands?

[KBM]

Originally Posted by Dirt

WHAT???
Is this truly serious????
Surely not. This is incredulous.
I can understand this being the case through the grey market where people are desperate to get their hands on one, but surely not through an AD or Boutique?

If I recall correctly, I recently paid $500 AUS extra for the D-Blue which is the List price.

Yes, it's true. But not because the grey market sells the d-blue above msrp. Rather, the blue sells for close to msrp, but the black is heavily discounted, thus the difference.

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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by RACER_X

Search the For sale ads, regular DSSD are usually around $8-9k, deep sea, $12k+

Ok, so we are talking specifically about the grey market and the price difference has nothing to do with the retail prices people are paying at the dealers?
Is this correct?

If so that's absolutely amazing

[Stuntpilot]

Originally Posted by Daytona88

Deep Blue is beautiful but you can pick up a nice preowned black dial for $8k. Hard for me to justify the price differential

I agree

[avilhena]

D-blue

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by kauebm

Yes, it's true. But not because the grey market sells the d-blue above msrp. Rather, the blue sells for close to msrp, but the black is heavily discounted, thus the difference.

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Oh I see.
Thanks for clarifying that

[Token74]

Originally Posted by kauebm

Guys, the price difference comments are probably related to the fact that a bnib black dssd is readily available for less than 10k usd, while the d-blue goes for around 12,5k usd. This is in the US, at least.

Fair enough, I didn't realise the 'real world' price differential was so significant.

[juniorlawrence]

Originally Posted by Sgilde

I want one of these to be my next. I can't find a deep blue in my area to see one in person. Is the premium on the blue worth it? Any input is appreciated!


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I personally don't like the blue at all. I am/will buy the black.

Now if the Blue was a DSSD but like a Smurf color/type, hands down the Blue. I just don't like the two toned color. GL

[adawil2002]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Due to low supply levels it's exclusive unless one is prepared to pay a healthy premium in the grey market. In which case one could probably acquire one within a week depending upon the market.

The grey market prices I've seen are in line or higher than what I paid at my AD.

[watchwatcher]

I think it's worth it. Definitely.

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

Not the first thread where you've claimed the D-Blue will soon be easy to find (as you've done with the BLNR). Rolex held back on the SS Daytona up until it was 'discontinued'. What makes you think they'll do any different with the D-Blue?

Originally Posted by Dirt

WHAT???
Is this truly serious????
Surely not. This is incredulous.
I can understand this being the case through the grey market where people are desperate to get their hands on one, but surely not through an AD or Boutique?

If I recall correctly, I recently paid $500 AUS extra for the D-Blue which is the List price.

The difference is not MSRP, it's because you can get a discount on the black dial but not the D-Blue.

Originally Posted by Dirt

I don't understand where the lie is?
And what is the lie?
Who's lying?
Quite frankly I'm rather confused now

Besides, I'm not so sure that JC will be selling his personal watch any time soon so you'll be waiting for a long time to pick it up.
How much do you think it's worth as it currently stands?

There is no lie. He seems to have a problem with the D-Blue.

Originally Posted by adawil2002

The grey market prices I've seen are in line or higher than what I paid at my AD.

ADs here in Singapore are selling the D-Blue at a minimum S$2,000 (US$1,470) over retail but some are closer to S$4,000 (US$2,940).

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Not the first thread where you've claimed the D-Blue will soon be easy to find (as you've done with the BLNR). Rolex held back on the SS Daytona up until it was 'discontinued'. What makes you think they'll do any different with the D-Blue?



The difference is not MSRP, it's because you can get a discount on the black dial but not the D-Blue.



There is no lie. He seems to have a problem with the D-Blue.



ADs here in Singapore are selling the D-Blue at a minimum S$2,000 (US$1,470) over retail but some are closer to S$4,000 (US$2,940).

Amazing, absolutely amazing
It's a wonderful world
Glad I've got mine anyway.

Thanks for the feedback