Cracked ceramic case update

[codecow]

Originally Posted by arnage

he's got the black ceramic diver..

Nooooooo!!!! I have this watch as well.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by masterserg

So you never had any issues with anything? Good for you.

He sure seems to have issues with AP, constantly trolling threads in this forum and about AP in the main Rolex forum and making snide remarks at every opportunity as he does....perhaps he was bullied by an AP-wearing hooligan as a child?

Also, for someone who hates ceramic, he somehow managed to find love in his heart for the Rolex ceramic bezels (imagine that):

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

I think the newer watches have greatly improved the line up. I know that I would not buy one of the older ones. The clasp is tinnie feeling and I was just never impressed. I know that I am in the minority on that----but the new bezels and newer bracelets were very much necessary to fend off Omega and a few of the other brands. And they sure have no problem in selling them. Maybe your having a bad day?

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by masterserg

So you never had any issues with anything? Good for you.

Never had a case crack or a structural/ integrity issue on a watch. Had faded bezel on two omegas. Never had issue w Rolex. I was just curious as to the benefit of a ceramic case and the price point on these would cause a lot of frustration when things go wrong I suspect.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Never had a case crack or a structural/ integrity issue on a watch. Had faded bezel on two omegas. Never had issue w Rolex. I was just curious as to the benefit of a ceramic case and the price point on these would cause a lot of frustration when things go wrong I suspect.

Hmm, so you're unaware that there have been some issues with chipped/cracked ceramic bezels reported in the main Rolex forum?

Also, can you list any thread of reported quality issues with Rolex watches in which you've jumped in and made snarky remarks about Rolex quality?

[Manofsteelpt]

Glad it's getting repaired with no fault to yourself... No surprises as AP service is top notch. I am a lil surprised it will take 2 months for the new case. Either way, brand new case and new 2 yr warranty coming.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by improviz

Hmm, so you're unaware that there have been some issues with chipped/cracked ceramic bezels reported in the main Rolex forum?

Also, can you list any thread of reported quality issues with Rolex watches in which you've jumped in and made snarky remarks about Rolex quality?

Can only speak from my own experience. Of course, I've never read about any other brands with cracked cases. So I suppose my experience is not unique, at least not on this forum. Good luck to the owner and I suspect it will all work out, with or without further input from either of us. Keep in mind, at the end of the day, these are watches. Not religions. No need to get too zealous or defensive, though I suppose either is your perogative.

[eal15]

very glad it's getting repair under warranty. I', dying to know what the issue was in their opinion. Hopefully they will tell you.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Can only speak from my own experience. Of course, I've never read about any other brands with cracked cases. So I suppose my experience is not unique, at least not on this forum. Good luck to the owner and I suspect it will all work out, with or without further input from either of us. Keep in mind, at the end of the day, these are watches. Not religions. No need to get too zealous or defensive, though I suppose either is your perogative.

Well, when I start to see a pattern, I tend to make observations about it, and you've been in here fairly frequently making remarks of this type, which is neither constructive nor particularly polite.

Also, I've seen reports of Omega (which I believe you own) Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon watches with cracked cases as well in our very own Omega forum, I guess you jumped in on those threads as well and bagged on Omega quality, etc., and referred to them as "Fashion watches, like Michael Kors" as you did with the AP Diver in another thread, or "poor quality" as you've referred to AP in yet another thread?

[BawlaDK]

Omega supposedly makes the hardest ceramic cases out there right now (Same as used on Blancpains new ceramic cases). I love the material, but the material is brittle which is something you always have to keep in mind when handling ceramic watches. Had the 3786 IWC Fleiger which is a great piece, but moved it on because I was afraid of dropping it.. The AP diver in ceramic is nothing short of an amazing piece...

[lapince]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

How about a case that didn't crack?

well that's the case of all cases out there, never read here that ancase cracked without any shock like id the case here...
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Why a ceramic case anyway? What's the advantage?

My answer is in your quote... Because it looks awesome, is very light and scratch free...

Originally Posted by HL65

Mine didn't crack...This is first one I have ever read about that had a flaw. AP makes amazing ceramic watches with superb brushed finishing. So why ceramic? Because it looks and feels amazing!

Yep exactly, the brushed/polished finishing is amazing, most brands have maximum 20-30% of the finishing that AP put in their ceramic pieces...

Originally Posted by KarlS

They are waiting for a less cracked one to arrive so they can recondition and use for Lapince!!

Originally Posted by masterserg

So you never had any issues with anything? Good for you.

Lol, he never even had the flu this is the first time I have a problem with a watch, but seeing the way it is being treated by AP, would have no problem at all getting some other AP ceramic watch in the future...

Originally Posted by codecow

Nooooooo!!!! I have this watch as well.

Lol don't worry I am sure you'll be fine, I believe what happened to me is very rare...

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Glad it's getting repaired with no fault to yourself... No surprises as AP service is top notch. I am a lil surprised it will take 2 months for the new case. Either way, brand new case and new 2 yr warranty coming.

Thanks, well yeah it is a little long but in any way I was in Paris, in the plane back to odessa now, so I would not have come back just for this, will get it back in September when I go to Davos for my second incoming PP, getting the first at the end of July, will still try to see if there is no way to get it back by then, but they said mid August, so think I won't...

Originally Posted by eal15

very glad it's getting repair under warranty. I', dying to know what the issue was in their opinion. Hopefully they will tell you.

I would like to know as well but think they will prefer to not say...

Originally Posted by BawlaDK

Omega supposedly makes the hardest ceramic cases out there right now (Same as used on Blancpains new ceramic cases). I love the material, but the material is brittle which is something you always have to keep in mind when handling ceramic watches. Had the 3786 IWC Fleiger which is a great piece, but moved it on because I was afraid of dropping it.. The AP diver in ceramic is nothing short of an amazing piece...

There is no comparison IMO in AP ceramic finishing and other brands ceramic finishing, always wanted one but could not find one I liked enough, i love the ce diver, amazing piece

[redsubby]

Good to hear.
will they issue you a new case number, or it doesn't apply?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by redsubby

Good to hear.
will they issue you a new case number, or it doesn't apply?

Good question, I have no idea, I won't hassle them with questions now, they just said they would take care of it, but when they tell me it's ready I will ask a few, why this happened, what they did exactly to repair it, new case or not, and new case number or old one...

[PJ S]

^
The case will have been replaced – ceramic doesn’t get repaired.

[csi-n]

Originally Posted by redsubby

Good to hear.
will they issue you a new case number, or it doesn't apply?

Originally Posted by lapince

Good question, I have no idea, I won't hassle them with questions now, they just said they would take care of it, but when they tell me it's ready I will ask a few, why this happened, what they did exactly to repair it, new case or not, and new case number or old one...

Looking at my APs and other pictures online, I see that the case number (serial number) isn't actually on the case. So you should receive back the same number that's on the removable rear piece.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by improviz

Well, when I start to see a pattern, I tend to make observations about it, and you've been in here fairly frequently making remarks of this type, which is neither constructive nor particularly polite.

Also, I've seen reports of Omega (which I believe you own) Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon watches with cracked cases as well in our very own Omega forum, I guess you jumped in on those threads as well and bagged on Omega quality, etc., and referred to them as "Fashion watches, like Michael Kors" as you did with the AP Diver in another thread, or "poor quality" as you've referred to AP in yet another thread?

I think you have a lot of time on your hands, which is great in many respects I suppose. How about this, you buy whatever you like and you contribute to the forum however you see fit? There is nothing wrong with raising questions or making comments and you seem to be alone in your complaints in this regard. These are watches. Not religions.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

I think you have a lot of time on your hands, which is great in many respects I suppose. How about this, you buy whatever you like and you contribute to the forum however you see fit? There is nothing wrong with raising questions or making comments and you seem to be alone in your complaints in this regard. These are watches. Not religions.

I've got a better idea: you buy whatever you like, enjoy it, and stop trolling threads about watches you do not like and making snarky remarks about them.

Also, try reading the thread again, I am far from alone in raising objections to your comments in this thread.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by improviz

I've got a better idea: you buy whatever you like, enjoy it, and stop trolling threads about watches you do not like and making snarky remarks about them.

Also, try reading the thread again, I am far from alone in raising objections to your comments in this thread.

Your comments reflect a degree of cognitive dissonance. A cracked case is a serious item on a high end watch. I've expressed nothing but best wishes for the owner. Now I wish you'd find someone else to pick on. This site is not limited to "fan boys". So, what I intend to do is buy what I want. And post what I want, all within the confines of the forum rules. To rest: Enjoy you watches fellas.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Your comments reflect a degree of cognitive dissonance. A cracked case is a serious item on a high end watch. I've expressed nothing but best wishes for the owner. Now I wish you'd find someone else to pick on. This site is not limited to "fan boys". So, what I intend to do is buy what I want. And post what I want, all within the confines of the forum rules. To rest: Enjoy you watches fellas.

Point is, you only do this here. Certainly not in the main Rolex forum nor in the Omega forum, so I guess question would be why you limit your concerns and ire about quality issues soley to the forums of brands of watches you do not happen to own?

[IS250C]

Originally Posted by csi-n

Looking at my APs and other pictures online, I see that the case number (serial number) isn't actually on the case. So you should receive back the same number that's on the removable rear piece.

This is very interesting observation that I never thought about.
So the number is the "back plate" serial number, nothing to do with the casing at all.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Your comments reflect a degree of cognitive dissonance.

No, my thoughts are quite consistent, and ad hominem isn't going to get you anywhere, but while we're on the subject of psychoanalysis, I would suggest that you've got a very bad case of sour grapes. I maintain that you've been trolling this forum and others bashing on APs every chance you get, and I think the following proves this quite conclusively.

Just in AP forum, over the past several months:

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Brutal realization.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The APs strike me as average quality/feel at best. I think your comments are well stated.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Boy those look pretty plain, but they certainly have fans.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

If my crown came apart in my hand twice in two years, I'd lose faith in the quality real fast and be taking my affections elsewhere. You must really like the brand.

Other forums:

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Finishing? Seen it. Nice, but no obvious improvements over Rolex and Omega.

History? Prey tell? AP moments of greatness in history?

Or marketing greatness to rap stars and govenors?

Fill us in.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Sounds like the Rolex has your heart. Forget the AP. They look goofy.

Following quote was in reference to the AP Diver:

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Fashion, like Michael Koors.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

AP. Fad watch at best?

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The AP is the watch that seems to be the VIP for overrated.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Very little to justify the AP. Boring. Overpriced. Bland.

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Yeah, the price point on the APs is pretty up there I think. Never really saw one that I'd take over an Omega or Rolex, but I am aware they seem to have a big following. Not sure what justifies the price---but then again---I am sure there are those here who could enlighten me.

Apologies for OT to others, but this sort of behavior really irks me, even more so the crocodile tears when it's pointed out to him.

[yachty 1]

Originally Posted by improviz

no, my thoughts are quite consistent, and ad hominem isn't going to get you anywhere, but while we're on the subject of psychoanalysis, i would suggest that you've got a very bad case of sour grapes. I maintain that you've been trolling this forum and others bashing on aps every chance you get, and i think the following proves this quite conclusively.

Just in ap forum, over the past several months:










Other forums:




Following quote was in reference to the ap diver:










Apologies for ot to others, but this sort of behavior really irks me, even more so the crocodile tears when it's pointed out to him.

[Panigale]

Lol..... I don't post here often, but I love you guys

[subtona]

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[codecow]

This thread became amusing, it's making me want to grab my ceramic diver but I can't part with my new 5116R, I think it's my favorite for now.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by codecow

This thread became amusing, it's making me want to grab my ceramic diver but I can't part with my new 5116R, I think it's my favorite for now.

I love the fact that the thought even crossed your mind louis

This thread cracks me up. My man went out of his way to call this fool out...but boy was he right

[HL65]

Originally Posted by improviz

No, my thoughts are quite consistent, and ad hominem isn't going to get you anywhere, but while we're on the subject of psychoanalysis, I would suggest that you've got a very bad case of sour grapes. I maintain that you've been trolling this forum and others bashing on APs every chance you get, and I think the following proves this quite conclusively.

Just in AP forum, over the past several months:









Other forums:




Following quote was in reference to the AP Diver:










Apologies for OT to others, but this sort of behavior really irks me, even more so the crocodile tears when it's pointed out to him.

He is trolling the AP forum and therefore a TROLL in my book. I also never understand why trolls go into forums where they clearly have disdain towards the brand and feel the need to make posts. Perhaps they just can't help themselves? Anyway good for calling him out.

[TickTopia]

Good to hear that AP is doing the right thing.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I love the fact that the thought even crossed your mind louis

This thread cracks me up. My man went out of his way to call this fool out...but boy was he right

Hahah well to be fair when I put my 5960/1A back in the bank safe I saw the diver sitting there in the case. I almost picked it up and wound it but then I knew I had my new 5116R waiting at home to wear and I don't like having two out at once.

All this talk about the case finishing on the diver makes me want to wear it. Even non-WIS can immediately see there is something special about the watch when you wear it out in the wild. I have had people at work comment on it, which has never happened with any Patek I have worn.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by HL65

He is trolling the AP forum and therefore a TROLL in my book. I also never understand why trolls go into forums where they clearly have disdain towards the brand and feel the need to make posts. Perhaps they just can't help themselves? Anyway good for calling him out.

Thanks, Ken!

I've never understood the phenemonon myself, I suspect it arises from cognitive dissonance and/or sour grapes.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by PJ S

^
The case will have been replaced – ceramic doesn’t get repaired.

Yes that is what I have heard as well

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Your comments reflect a degree of cognitive dissonance. A cracked case is a serious item on a high end watch. I've expressed nothing but best wishes for the owner. Now I wish you'd find someone else to pick on. This site is not limited to "fan boys". So, what I intend to do is buy what I want. And post what I want, all within the confines of the forum rules. To rest: Enjoy you watches fellas.

Well sure it's a serious thing but seems very rare, first time I hear of a AP ceramic case being cracked without any shock, so a bad product is always possible, the high level of AP finishing compared to all other ceramic watches, makes it possible that a part was fragilized, the important thing IMO is that they're fixing it...

Originally Posted by improviz

No, my thoughts are quite consistent, and ad hominem isn't going to get you anywhere, but while we're on the subject of psychoanalysis, I would suggest that you've got a very bad case of sour grapes. I maintain that you've been trolling this forum and others bashing on APs every chance you get, and I think the following proves this quite conclusively.

Just in AP forum, over the past several months:

Quote:
Originally Posted by WJGESQ View Post
The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJGESQ View Post
The APs strike me as average quality/feel at best. I think your comments are well stated.

Apologies for OT to others, but this sort of behavior really irks me, even more so the crocodile tears when it's pointed out to him.

Well I had 4 Rolex, and the level of finishing, case and movement, is lightyears away between Rolex and AP, I just find it funny that you could compare them and put them at the same level

Originally Posted by codecow

Hahah well to be fair when I put my 5960/1A back in the bank safe I saw the diver sitting there in the case. I almost picked it up and wound it but then I knew I had my new 5116R waiting at home to wear and I don't like having two out at once.

All this talk about the case finishing on the diver makes me want to wear it. Even non-WIS can immediately see there is something special about the watch when you wear it out in the wild. I have had people at work comment on it, which has never happened with any Patek I have worn.

Well you like it or not, but an AP ceramic watch is quite amazing, as far as I know there is no other ceramic watch with such level of finishing and brushed/polished surfaces, plus the comfort of such a big watch is just great..

Originally Posted by improviz

Thanks, Ken!

I've never understood the phenemonon myself, I suspect it arises from cognitive dissonance and/or sour grapes.

Well sometimes I write a thread on which I don't understand the love for a type or brand of watches, but once I get answers I donsome research and either change my mind or don't but I think that those who constantly bash a brand might be out of jealousy, at least for a part of guys who do, you can not like, but to honestly compare Rolex and AP case finishing and say they are the same level is quite comical...