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Old 3 August 2016, 07:17 AM   #1
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There's a price difference between models, but that's about it. Many models at different price points share the same case, movement, crown and even bracelet. Rolex does seem to put quite a premium on the date complication.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:18 AM   #2
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Compared to PP, most Rolexes are "entry level".
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:21 AM   #3
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Since Rolexes are an addiction the entry level model is just the first one you buy.
The gateway to fine watches.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:26 AM   #4
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If your associating with the guy who thinks you bought a no date submariner because you couldn't afford the date you need new friends. Same applies to the guy who thinks the explorer is what you buy when you cannot afford a sub. All these models have a place in history, a unique beauty, and deserve to be enjoyed from a non-judgemental perspective.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:35 AM   #5
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Compared to PP, most Rolexes are "entry level".


Compared with Greubel Forsey, most PP are "entry level" 😝🤗😁


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Old 3 August 2016, 10:00 PM   #6
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Compared with Greubel Forsey, most PP are "entry level" 😝🤗😁


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Wow Will... No joke ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greubel-Fors...UAAOxydyxSP5jI
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:31 AM   #7
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I can live with "entry level":

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Old 3 August 2016, 09:46 PM   #8
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I can live with "entry level":

Must be a struggle. 😊


Very sweet car.
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Old 4 August 2016, 06:06 AM   #9
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Must be a struggle. 😊


Very sweet car.
Ha- I should have said "I could live with entry level". Can't say I own that beautiful machine.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:42 AM   #10
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could i have a basic Ferrari please
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Old 4 August 2016, 01:06 AM   #11
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could i have a basic Ferrari please
Ferrari won't sell you a 'base' model; expensive options are part of the package.
With Rolex, quality and design is equal on all models. That is one of the things that makes Rolex such a great brand. They don't do second class.
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Old 3 August 2016, 08:01 AM   #12
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Actually i like the OP 39mm Rhodium Dial with some of the higher models so I don't mind about having something on a entry level.
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Old 3 August 2016, 09:16 AM   #13
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I think the Explorer II ends up called entry level as it really is a lot of people's entry into Rolex and is the most cost effective sport watch used. I really wanted a Sub for my first watch, but I did almost buy an explorer as they were quite a bit cheaper used in similar condition to a Sub ($1500 less in most cases as they seem to depreciate a little more than a sub). It was also easier to find and at 25% less cost, was very tempting as my first Rolex.

Like others have said though, it's still a Rolex made out of the same parts, it isn't like other stuff where they make a cheaper and call it entry level, if anything all steel rolex's are entry level based on where they sit in the lineup.
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Old 3 August 2016, 09:20 AM   #14
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About the term "Entry level" related to the Rolex line up... Is this a price only thing? Which are the entry level watches? Air King, Explorer and DJ maybe? Myself with a rather big box of watches just bought an entry level Explorer and I guess I'm not alone in this forum. Not important as a subject, but somehow it seems strange to call very iconic models "entry level". Again, price wise maybe. But money was at least for me not a factor when I choosed the Explorer.

I guess I just dont like the term.
I would say yes, entry level refers to price. If you bought what you like, why do you care? If it is a cheaper model, that's great, you got what you wanted for less money!
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Old 3 August 2016, 09:22 AM   #15
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Old 3 August 2016, 09:28 AM   #16
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There is no entry level. From the least expensive to the most expensive, they are all beautiful pieces.
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Old 3 August 2016, 10:25 AM   #17
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I too believe there is no such thing as an entry level...
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Old 3 August 2016, 01:32 PM   #18
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I agree with many others... Your Explorer is an awesome watch ... Who cares what others think?

I recently bought my wife a BNIB 36mm DJ and a "friend" of hers with a 15 year old 26mm TT DJ responded "Nice entry level Rolex" ... My wife was taken aback as she choose the look she liked and wasn't worried about status... Some people buy Rolexes for status, others buy for the beauty and quality they find in the watch.


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Old 3 August 2016, 11:17 PM   #19
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Of course there are entry level Rolex models, just as with any other product, and the price is accordingly less. The functionality is the same. Defining features on the entry models:
- No gold, diamonds
- Limited selection on dial, bezel, bracelet
- Fewer complications

When you buy a car it's the same thing - the models are tiered according to what you get and what you pay. The basic features are the same (engine, drive train) but with higher end models you get some frills.

Should one feel bad whether driving a Geo Metro vs a BMW? No - drive whatever is appropriate for your individual situation. I drive a Honda Accord, but I'm spending most of my income on retirement savings and my kids' school instead of expanding my watch collection. Life is better with a balance.

I bought my wife a SS Lady Date as her starter Rolex, knowing fully that it as an "entry" model. (She turned around and said she wanted more bling! So now she has more bling )

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I agree with many others... Your Explorer is an awesome watch ... Who cares what others think?

I recently bought my wife a BNIB 36mm DJ and a "friend" of hers with a 15 year old 26mm TT DJ responded "Nice entry level Rolex" ... My wife was taken aback as she choose the look she liked and wasn't worried about status... Some people buy Rolexes for status, others buy for the beauty and quality they find in the watch.
While a correct statement, not a very cool thing to say, and ironic considering her older watch! I'd spend more time with friends who care about the person not the accessories.
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Old 3 August 2016, 01:38 PM   #20
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There are entry level brands certainly. However, I wouldn't get wrapped up in that term when it comes to Rolex or other higher end brands. If anything, I would think of it as their least expensive models. Especially with Rolex, more expensive doesn't mean better. Demand, complexity and materials drive the price of the range, not quality level within the brand. They are all quality pieces. (except the unfortunate folks who get the rare lemon)

Your Explorer is a fine piece which is FAR from entry level. It's a classic. It's probably my favorite modern piece in the range.
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Old 3 August 2016, 04:23 PM   #21
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:30 AM   #22
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This is historically the case, although the current Tudor watches are no longer copies of the Rolex line with ETA movements, so it's a little more complicated (pun!) than that now.
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Old 3 August 2016, 04:25 PM   #23
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Great answers everybody - thank you. I guess that

a - There is no such things as entry level, only different prices
b - If it were such a thing as entry level, what does it really matter when we are talking Rolex and their quality levels in everything that they do

I did a quick search. The term is indeed wide spread - Watch Time was for example doing an article series there they discussed the entry point to famous brands. For Rolex, it was the OP... In the article the more simple bracelet was discussed for example (clasp with no easy link etc) in contrast to the more expensive ones. Doesn't mean much, but it seems that media is using this term a lot.

Again - thanks for all your input and couldn't agree more with you all.
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Old 3 August 2016, 06:50 PM   #24
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Entry-level is a marketing term that refers to a lower priced, lower featured model.

An easy comparison of entry-level to mid-level to high-end can be seen as the OP, DJ, and Day-Date.


Or, Sub-SDK-DSSD.

It really is about price and features, for Rolex precious metal is associated with higher-end. Therefore, SS models at the lower end of the price spectrum are often referred to as entry-level.
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Old 3 August 2016, 06:53 PM   #25
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About the term "Entry level" related to the Rolex line up... Is this a price only thing? Which are the entry level watches? Air King, Explorer and DJ maybe? Myself with a rather big box of watches just bought an entry level Explorer and I guess I'm not alone in this forum. Not important as a subject, but somehow it seems strange to call very iconic models "entry level". Again, price wise maybe. But money was at least for me not a factor when I choosed the Explorer.

I guess I just dont like the term.


It's the other way around: the more expensive Rolexes are way more overpriced for basically the same movement as in the Explorer. Even better: the movement in the Explorer is more advanced than in some other more expensive Rolexes!

Money WAS a factor when I bought my Explorer. Not that I could not afford a more expensive watch, but just because the more expensive watch had nothing more to offer than different looks. So why pay the premium if you are happy with the way the Explorer looks?
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Do I have my 'entry level' PM Rolex sports (16628 YG Yachtmaster) watch on today - this is least expensive PM sports to acquire ?


We all by watches , not for the price , but for the technical/quality/aesthetic and general feeling of happiness they bring.

Wear your new watch in good health .
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Old 4 August 2016, 12:51 AM   #27
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I have to agree entry level is the wrong thing to say about watches. Entry level can apply to cars ie no elec windows, no heated mirrors, no sunroof etc. This is a term I find highly offensive to us who have SS Rolex models. A recent post suggested if you have SS you are an entry level buyer. However why if the watch only tells the time ie oyster but it's in YG or WG it isn't entry level? The material is down to taste and what suits you. I suit SS and wouldn dream of owning a YG Rolex even if I could afford it. My sub I've owned since I was 21 in 1995 it's SS and my explorer 2 from 2014. I bought them when I I could afford them and find it offensive someone suggests they are entry level watches because of the material they are made. Entry level in general I think is a terrible way to describe a watch in all honesty. Enjoy your explorer, my good lady has one it's beautiful enjoy it!!


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I have to agree entry level is the wrong thing to say about watches. Entry level can apply to cars ie no elec windows, no heated mirrors, no sunroof etc. This is a term I find highly offensive to us who have SS Rolex models. A recent post suggested if you have SS you are an entry level buyer. However why if the watch only tells the time ie oyster but it's in YG or WG it isn't entry level? The material is down to taste and what suits you. I suit SS and wouldn dream of owning a YG Rolex even if I could afford it. My sub I've owned since I was 21 in 1995 it's SS and my explorer 2 from 2014. I bought them when I I could afford them and find it offensive someone suggests they are entry level watches because of the material they are made. Entry level in general I think is a terrible way to describe a watch in all honesty. Enjoy your explorer, my good lady has one it's beautiful enjoy it!!


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I have a SS model and I'm not offended. You can also choose not to be offended.

For me stainless if a much better material than gold. Gold has value mostly for historical reasons, it's not really useful for anything other than connectors on computer motherboards. It's not even used for fake teeth any more!

If a guy with a full gold watch looks down at me for my SS piece - he can stuff it!

Here's my lowly entry level:
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Old 4 August 2016, 03:18 AM   #29
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I have a SS model and I'm not offended. You can also choose not to be offended.

For me stainless if a much better material than gold. Gold has value mostly for historical reasons, it's not really useful for anything other than connectors on computer motherboards. It's not even used for fake teeth any more!

If a guy with a full gold watch looks down at me for my SS piece - he can stuff it!

Here's my lowly entry level:


Hey you're bang on mate, it just rubbed me up the wrong way to be honest. Yes stainless is beautiful on Rolex! Love your GMT, stunning, enjoy it👍🏻


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I have a SS model and I'm not offended. You can also choose not to be offended.

For me stainless if a much better material than gold. Gold has value mostly for historical reasons, it's not really useful for anything other than connectors on computer motherboards. It's not even used for fake teeth any more!

If a guy with a full gold watch looks down at me for my SS piece - he can stuff it!

Here's my lowly entry level:

Same as my entry level. The thing that annoys me though is it's shown at the bottom of all the GMT's on the Website. So it is the least desirable according to Rolex? If so where is the middle finger emoji?
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