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denmanproject · 8 October 2016, 03:18 PM

Wow, sorry to hear and hope it all works out

IronSlippa · 8 October 2016, 06:04 PM

OP, real sorry to hear that this happened to you. As a new member here myself, this is probably one of my worst fears. I hope you are able to resolve this matter and get your money back, please keep us informed.

jban5 · 9 October 2016, 02:31 AM

Wire instructions
Bank: Wells Fargo
Account #
Routing #
Name on account: Sophia Goff
Account type:Savings
Bank Address: Address: 200 W 7th St, Hanford, CA 93230
Please keep me posted with payment receipt once payment is made.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:14 AM,

I wonder if I would be anxious to wire to any Wells Fargo account at this point. It seems I have heard that there was a time anyone could get a couple accounts without really being anyone.

Perhaps you could look into this account and see if the bank should share some accountability for its misuse.

It would be interesting to see one of those "late night" tv commercials by law firms looking for people who were hurt by drugs to take a bank on for harm caused by bad banking practices. I wonder how many people have found themselves in a similar situation and lost their money to a scammer with an easily gotten fraudulent account?

Smdevore31 · 14 October 2016, 08:25 PM

Hi Everyone,
Sorry I haven't posted an update, have been on the road. I've filed a complaint with the FBI and followed up with contact to my local field office in Baltimore. Local police defaulted to FBI since it was online and an out-of-state crime. I've also contacted Wells Fargo multiple times and been in contact with my bank but these pathways seem to be less fruitful. From what I've been told, my best hope is thru the FBIs online crimes unit. Fingers crossed as I hope to hear from them soon. Thanks for everyone's well wishes
Steve

rolehex · 15 October 2016, 12:30 PM

I think you have to file a complaint with your bank and they deal with Wells Fargo to try to recoup the funds. That Wells Fargo account was opened up by somebody and they presumably showed their ID. (Unless this was one of the 2 million Wells Fargo fake accounts)

ohmega · 27 October 2016, 02:39 PM

Thanks for posting this. I almost got into a similar deal as well. We will need to be more careful.

stylinleems · 27 October 2016, 10:44 PM

Sorry to hear about your situation, hopefully you/FBI will be able to recover the funds that are rightfully yours and charge this person with wire fraud.

No one wants to see other members on the forum lose out on a big some of hard earned money. Hope these people get what they (account holder included) deserve!

sergenubretsuisse · 27 October 2016, 11:27 PM

This guys bad guy and thief!

Wolfof6peed · 28 October 2016, 12:16 PM

Use the bank account info and report it to his local police to file a report for theft by deception hire lawyer in his area for your defense in the superior court all the FBI reporting an online shit doesn't matter you need to go to his local brand of police and escalate it to the superior court in his local area

mps354 · 1 November 2016, 11:20 AM

Ugh, sorry to hear this. Any update?

HeartRolex · 1 November 2016, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

I hope there's no connection to member frankdelarosa also in Texas who just pledged and is eager to start selling?

Where in Texas? I'm checking FB and see a few Frank Delarosa's.

This is the kind of person you wish you could wait in the bushes for, with a baseball bat in hand.

Best of luck recovering your money and please use PayPal next time.

HeartRolex · 2 November 2016, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfof6peed

Use the bank account info and report it to his local police to file a report for theft by deception hire lawyer in his area for your defense in the superior court all the FBI reporting an online shit doesn't matter you need to go to his local brand of police and escalate it to the superior court in his local area

x2

Gold Crown · 11 November 2016, 10:51 PM

Why I only use Paypal. It costs more but you have piece of mind.

Vishy26 · 13 November 2016, 12:57 PM

Sorry for your loss. Best wishes.

surrounded21 · 23 December 2016, 02:52 PM

I got scammed in remarkably the same way from a *derrick james* on paneristi.com

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

cajunron · 25 December 2016, 07:38 AM

TRF GOLDEN RULE:
BUY THE SELLER AND NOT THE WATCH
Good luck to the OP in getting his money back.

GMT Aviator · 25 December 2016, 07:59 AM

PayPal, Amex or no dice.

Simples.

I'm really sorry this happened to you. I hope the FBI arrest him......and I'm sure they will in time.

The banks could be more pro-active in cases like this.

Bocktagon · 25 December 2016, 04:12 PM

Very sad to read this story my friend. Do you know what area of California this person supposedly lived in?

J!m · 26 December 2016, 10:41 AM

I passed on a Pelagos because the seller would not accept PayPal.

Unless I have a good sold feel that I know who I'm dealing with, it's PayPal or nothing. I can't afford the money, not to mention the time, to chase down some scumbag like this just to castrate him.

Just a common Theif is all he (or she) is. Pathetic.

I hope the FBI have good success on your behalf and he gets federal prison time.

J!m · 26 December 2016, 10:44 AM

double post. Sorry!

Lgear080 · 26 December 2016, 12:20 PM

So frustrating. Wish there was more that could be done to get your funds back.

locutus49 · 26 December 2016, 12:37 PM

Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.

kingSubTT · 26 December 2016, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus49

Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.

It goes both ways right? Scammer buyer buys using PayPal. After receiving the watch, files a complain that he received a rock. Seller doesn't want to go thru this.

schaumburgla · 27 December 2016, 03:08 AM

another forum , I believe timezone.com .

justin

schaumburgla · 27 December 2016, 03:18 AM

The Bank account holder is in a woman's name. In each fraudulent bank wire transaction I have seen this has always been the case, including my local watch trading buddy who got scammed earlier this yr.

GMT Aviator · 4 January 2017, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus49

Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.

This is very true, but I would only bank wire money to a dealer whom I know to be in the business of selling watches ideally with a premises. For an individual selling his/her watch, it's Paypal or Amex only for me.

I feel really bad for the OP. Being scammed is a dreadful thing and it's not his fault. It could happen to any of us.

htbilgic · 6 January 2017, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

This is very true, but I would only bank wire money to a dealer whom I know to be in the business of selling watches ideally with a premises. For an individual selling his/her watch, it's Paypal or Amex only for me.

I feel really bad for the OP. Being scammed is a dreadful thing and it's not his fault. It could happen to any of us.

Absolutely. This could have happened to any of us.

I hope OP gets his money back.

cwieb · 6 January 2017, 11:54 AM

Bump for updates, hope all is well.

joesephcho · 7 January 2017, 12:49 PM

sad to hear this story...keep your head up!

Justinmg · 7 January 2017, 02:33 PM

This thread makes me sick... I really hope justic is served. Keep us updated.

15 October 2016, 12:30 PM	#35
rolehex 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 1,445	I think you have to file a complaint with your bank and they deal with Wells Fargo to try to recoup the funds. That Wells Fargo account was opened up by somebody and they presumably showed their ID. (Unless this was one of the 2 million Wells Fargo fake accounts) Last edited by rolehex; 15 October 2016 at 12:31 PM.. Reason: adding on

27 October 2016, 10:44 PM	#37
stylinleems 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: 116500 Posts: 3,216	Sorry to hear about your situation, hopefully you/FBI will be able to recover the funds that are rightfully yours and charge this person with wire fraud. No one wants to see other members on the forum lose out on a big some of hard earned money. Hope these people get what they (account holder included) deserve! __________________ Rolex: 126334 (BL) \| 116610LN \| 116500LN (WT) \| 116500LN (BK) \| 126710BLRO \| 116610LV \| 116710BLNR

25 December 2016, 07:38 AM	#46
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	TRF GOLDEN RULE: BUY THE SELLER AND NOT THE WATCH Good luck to the OP in getting his money back. __________________

27 December 2016, 03:08 AM	#54
schaumburgla 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Justin S. Location: Southeastern U.S. Watch: 5513 Sub Posts: 790	Be aware that this guy is also selling this watch on another forum , I believe timezone.com . justin

27 December 2016, 03:18 AM	#55
schaumburgla 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Justin S. Location: Southeastern U.S. Watch: 5513 Sub Posts: 790	Also in these situations The seller is Usually a guy yet The Bank account holder is in a woman's name. In each fraudulent bank wire transaction I have seen this has always been the case, including my local watch trading buddy who got scammed earlier this yr.

8 October 2016, 03:18 PM	#31
denmanproject "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Wayne Location: Canada Posts: 4,407	Wow, sorry to hear and hope it all works out

8 October 2016, 06:04 PM	#32
IronSlippa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11	OP, real sorry to hear that this happened to you. As a new member here myself, this is probably one of my worst fears. I hope you are able to resolve this matter and get your money back, please keep us informed.

9 October 2016, 02:31 AM	#33
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	Wire instructions Bank: Wells Fargo Account # Routing # Name on account: Sophia Goff Account type:Savings Bank Address: Address: 200 W 7th St, Hanford, CA 93230 Please keep me posted with payment receipt once payment is made. On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:14 AM, I wonder if I would be anxious to wire to any Wells Fargo account at this point. It seems I have heard that there was a time anyone could get a couple accounts without really being anyone. Perhaps you could look into this account and see if the bank should share some accountability for its misuse. It would be interesting to see one of those "late night" tv commercials by law firms looking for people who were hurt by drugs to take a bank on for harm caused by bad banking practices. I wonder how many people have found themselves in a similar situation and lost their money to a scammer with an easily gotten fraudulent account?

14 October 2016, 08:25 PM	#34
Smdevore31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: MD Posts: 15	Hi Everyone, Sorry I haven't posted an update, have been on the road. I've filed a complaint with the FBI and followed up with contact to my local field office in Baltimore. Local police defaulted to FBI since it was online and an out-of-state crime. I've also contacted Wells Fargo multiple times and been in contact with my bank but these pathways seem to be less fruitful. From what I've been told, my best hope is thru the FBIs online crimes unit. Fingers crossed as I hope to hear from them soon. Thanks for everyone's well wishes Steve

27 October 2016, 02:39 PM	#36
ohmega "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 7	Thanks for posting this. I almost got into a similar deal as well. We will need to be more careful.

27 October 2016, 11:27 PM	#38
sergenubretsuisse Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Serge Nubret Location: Zurich Watch: Rolex Sub 16800 Posts: 120	This guys bad guy and thief!

28 October 2016, 12:16 PM	#39
Wolfof6peed "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philly Posts: 2	Use the bank account info and report it to his local police to file a report for theft by deception hire lawyer in his area for your defense in the superior court all the FBI reporting an online shit doesn't matter you need to go to his local brand of police and escalate it to the superior court in his local area

1 November 2016, 11:20 AM	#40
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,098	Ugh, sorry to hear this. Any update?

11 November 2016, 10:51 PM	#43
Gold Crown Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Ross Location: Chicago Area Watch: 6265 18K Daytona Posts: 928	Why I only use Paypal. It costs more but you have piece of mind.

13 November 2016, 12:57 PM	#44
Vishy26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Krishna Location: Australia Posts: 611	Sorry for your loss. Best wishes.

23 December 2016, 02:52 PM	#45
surrounded21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: California Posts: 552	I got scammed in remarkably the same way from a derrick james on paneristi.com Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

25 December 2016, 07:59 AM	#47
GMT Aviator 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,318	PayPal, Amex or no dice. Simples. I'm really sorry this happened to you. I hope the FBI arrest him......and I'm sure they will in time. The banks could be more pro-active in cases like this.

25 December 2016, 04:12 PM	#48
Bocktagon "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Seamaster GMT Posts: 264	Very sad to read this story my friend. Do you know what area of California this person supposedly lived in?

26 December 2016, 10:41 AM	#49
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	I passed on a Pelagos because the seller would not accept PayPal. Unless I have a good sold feel that I know who I'm dealing with, it's PayPal or nothing. I can't afford the money, not to mention the time, to chase down some scumbag like this just to castrate him. Just a common Theif is all he (or she) is. Pathetic. I hope the FBI have good success on your behalf and he gets federal prison time.

26 December 2016, 10:44 AM	#50
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	double post. Sorry!

26 December 2016, 12:20 PM	#51
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	So frustrating. Wish there was more that could be done to get your funds back.

26 December 2016, 12:37 PM	#52
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.

6 January 2017, 11:54 AM	#58
cwieb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,702	Bump for updates, hope all is well.

7 January 2017, 12:49 PM	#59
joesephcho "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Watch: Submariner ND Posts: 188	sad to hear this story...keep your head up! __________________ 1)Sub ND 2)Speedy Pro 3)Chopard LUC Pro One GMT

7 January 2017, 02:33 PM	#60
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	This thread makes me sick... I really hope justic is served. Keep us updated. __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

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