Is it Normal for the Ring Arrow to be Off!

[landroverking]

Why didn't anyone respond with the right answer? "yes"

[Gold Crown]

Originally Posted by TitanCi

I Think if I had your watch I'd be doubly annoyed
1) the marker not being centered over 12
2) the ceramic insert/PIP not being directly lined underneath the "tooth" or dip of the bezel.

#2 is what's wrong with mine, like yours but I see them on the Smurf, Bluesy, the solid YG sub... so if those ones have the issue, I'll just leave mine be. Who knows what may happen if you send it into RSC? Comes back with a scratch or mar on the watch, etc.

If the crown on the rehaut is off too... oh man...


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Oh well looks like Rolex can lay a turd just like the rest of them.

[TitanCi]

Originally Posted by Gold Crown

What it shows is what poor quality control Rolex has, you must agree!

I do agree! Aside from this issue I don't know if it's worth it to send back to RSC to have them re align the bezel insert to be directly underneath a tooth or dip. I just worry something unexpected may happen upon return to me, but damn if I want it to be perfect!!!


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[kauffee]

I thought mine was a hair to the right when I got it, but it was really just binocular parallax effect. Remember that the two arrows are at different depths in the Z-axis.

If I hold it directly in front of my right eye and close my left eye, it looks right on. Once my left eye is open, it looks off again. I also find it's really hard to photograph it correctly. You have to be extremely precise... probably with fixed mounting of your watch and camera.

[rod727]

I use my bezel frequently so most of the time its on some random setting I just checked to see if it lines up at 12:00 and to my eye Im gtg....

[Gold Crown]

I just looked at a bunch of them for sale on eBay and some are spot on pearl aligned with the tooth of the bezel some like mine slightly off to one side of the tooth. When the pearl is in line with a tooth and not a depression the alignment looks perfect.

[TitanCi]

Originally Posted by Gold Crown

I just looked at a bunch of them for sale on eBay and some are spot on pearl aligned with the tooth of the bezel some like mine slightly off to one side of the tooth. When the pearl is in line with a tooth and not a depression the alignment looks perfect.

You don't even need a check eBay check the for sale forum there's tons of them like that

[Afghanvet]

Why are all us Rolex owners so anal??

[Gold Crown]

Originally Posted by Afghanvet

Why are all us Rolex owners so anal??

I guess we feel Rolex is perfection, that's what attracts me to it anyway. However like you and I know no such thing exists.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Afghanvet

Why are all us Rolex owners so anal??

Whether you buy a Honda or a Bentley, when you get in the car to drive off the lot, you want what you just bought to look, feel and function the way it was intended to. You can call it anal if you want, but I would call it getting what you paid for.

Anyway you want to see it, RSC told me mine shouldn't be like that and fixed it under warranty.

[jjdesq]

Rolex are not inexpensive watches yet inexpensive watches depending on the brand seem to have no problem getting the arrow to line up with the minute markers. Making excuses for the arrow being off is fine if you truly don't care but IMO examples like OPs picture is some BS and ought to be fixed free of charge.

[Dr.Brian]

Now it's supposed to line up with the tooth on the outside of the bezel as well?
That's a new one for me. (OCD alert)
Here's what mine's lined up with... nothing, because I use it all the time to actually time things and just leave it there. (Though if I turn it to 12 it will center up with the dial marker. If I sell it, I'll make sure to point out that desk diver "feature".)
Good luck with your repair.

[TitanCi]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

Now it's supposed to line up with the tooth on the outside of the bezel as well?

That's a new one for me. (OCD alert)

Here's what mine's lined up with... nothing, because I use it all the time to actually time things and just leave it there. (Though if I turn it to 12 it will center up with the dial marker. If I sell it, I'll make sure to point out that desk diver "feature".)

Good luck with your repair.

The Al inserts are an easy fix though. I'd prefer for a $10,4K watch that everything is lined up accurately. Lined up with a point or dip on the bezel for sure.


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[DJExplorer]

Originally Posted by TitanCi

The Al inserts are an easy fix though. I'd prefer for a $10,4K watch that everything is lined up accurately. Lined up with a point or dip on the bezel for sure.


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The bezel insert and pip is not related to the Bezel Flutes (that you call the point or dip)
This has been stated by Rolex when I sent one of my ones back in for another issue and I asked them directly.
When you see the schematic of the bezel assembly, the flutes (or points) get cut wherever the bezel is placed in the machine. This does not relate in any way to the click mechanism.
If they really wanted to, Rolex could align the bezel on the cutting machine at precise points and make them all line up exactly. But I guess the automated machine just churns them out.
The only thing you can adjust is the ceramic insert inside the bezel to have the arrow point directly at 12.

[crowncollection]

alignment with anything on the dial does not effect function, some tolerance is normal

[Thatguy]

I am able to line mine up with the minute hand no matter where it is on the dial.


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[HogwldFLTR]

One of the many advantage of having an Aluminum insert.

[VicLeChic]

I personally wouldn't say it's normal. I expect perfection from Rolex and imperfection(s) from affordable watches which I particularly enjoy lately. The bezel and dial markers allign perfectly on my YM.

Don't settle for less.

[Syed117]

People tend to fuss over these things because of an incorrect belief that every rolex is absolutely perfect.

This is not the case. Is has been proven time and time again on this forum.

Wildly inconsistent cyclops magnification, misaligned cyclops, timekeeping outside the new +2/-2 and many other little things.

I think it's incredible they keep tolerances as tight as they do, but nothing is perfect, not even a rolex.

"ring arrow" is slightly off on my ceramic sub as well.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Syed117

People tend to fuss over these things because of an incorrect belief that every rolex is absolutely perfect.

This is not the case. Is has been proven time and time again on this forum.

Wildly inconsistent cyclops magnification, misaligned cyclops, timekeeping outside the new +2/-2 and many other little things.

I think it's incredible they keep tolerances as tight as they do, but nothing is perfect, not even a rolex.

"ring arrow" is slightly off on my ceramic sub as well.

I tend to agree with everything you said here.

However, at this point everything you mentioned in your list of flaws would be acknowledged and corrected at RSC as items to be fixed. I don't think anyone is saying a Rolex comes out of the box perfect every time. My LVC certainly did not. I had some things fixed and it's about as close to perfect now as it gets. It's not babied either if that's what you think. I wear it all the time to do everything and it still functions perfectly.

[Verdi]

Mins is the same. Decided to leave it as it is for now.

[Gold Crown]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Mins is the same. Decided to leave it as it is for now.

Me too, If it goes in for service for something else I will ask them to reset the ceramic ring at that time.

[Etschell]

while you guys are busy starting at 1/10th of a mm variances i am actually using my timing bezel which rarely returns to 12.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Etschell

while you guys are busy starting at 1/10th of a mm variances i am actually using my timing bezel which rarely returns to 12.

hey hey hold on a minute. I used it to cook an egg just last week

[padi56]

Just cannot believe these types on posts to what in the real world is a tiny fraction of a MM.Wish thats all I had to worry above try having a few operations and having a battle with stomach cancer over the past 12 months then you really would have something to worry about.

[DJExplorer]

Originally Posted by padi56

Just cannot believe these types on posts to what in the real world is a tiny fraction of a MM.Wish thats all I had to worry above try having a few operations and having a battle with stomach cancer over the past 12 months then you really would have something to worry about.

Good points. Makes me wonder now why I even signed up to the forum.

[sechsgang]

Originally Posted by DJExplorer

Good points. Makes me wonder now why I even signed up to the forum.

This. There is enthusiasm then there's some of this...

[kerytch]

Bring it back to the service center

[tomchicago]

Again, if you had an aluminum bezel insert, you could work on this yourself quite easily and appreciate what's involved. It is a little tricky to line it up. The bezel and insert have no ridges to lock into...they're both smooth. So, the trick is to guess how to align them up with the ratchet notches as well as the dial markers. It is a little tricky and easy to be off mark. However, I do think Rolex and RSC should ship back watches with proper alignment.

[Gold Crown]

Originally Posted by tomchicago

Again, if you had an aluminum bezel insert, you could work on this yourself quite easily and appreciate what's involved. It is a little tricky to line it up. The bezel and insert have no ridges to lock into...they're both smooth. So, the trick is to guess how to align them up with the ratchet notches as well as the dial markers. It is a little tricky and easy to be off mark. However, I do think Rolex and RSC should ship back watches with proper alignment.

Thanks, you would think in this day and age the bezels would be digitally aligned and attached and glued by a robot or at lest have guide pins to keep this from happening.