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Old 4 March 2017, 12:49 PM   #31
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Oops, you're right....sorry man! I was confusing you with this new GMT owner, who thought his GMT hand was losing a half hour every hour. My bad!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=522419
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Old 1 March 2019, 09:20 PM   #32
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I happened upon this forum when I was looking for an answer to The February Question, which I ask annually. I confess it's the one thing that annoys me about my 1675, my faithful companion for 43 years. There is no way to adjust it other than by going forward three days with a reduced burden every 4 years!
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Old 1 March 2019, 10:04 PM   #33
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On your GMT, pull the crown out to the second position and move the hour hand through to the correct date. It’s pretty quick and simple.

I like the fact it’s doenst have a quick set date function ... more time to bond with your watch
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Old 2 March 2019, 04:55 AM   #34
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I hate that it doesn't have the quick set. If I happen to be behind 15 days then it requires 30 revolutions of the hour hand to get the date correct. As opposed to maybe 1-2 turns of the crown for a quick set.
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Old 2 March 2019, 05:17 AM   #35
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It amazes me how little some folks know about watches, that plop down $7-10k (or more) for a watch!
Countless stories of:

#1 "Hey, that's a nice GMT Master."
#2 "It's a Rolex." With an eye roll.

Or the guy on Tudor Forums on FB who asked "What is that red hand on my watch that only moves 2.5 hours when the hour hand moves 5 hours." He was talking about his new $4,000 Tudor GMT.
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Old 2 March 2019, 10:13 AM   #36
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I actually kinda like the GMT date-set, winding through the independent hour hand, as after letting it wind down, there is no guessing if the watch is in AM or PM, you just advance through the time until you know what time you're at.

By the sounds of the OP winding it "hundreds" of times to advance 2 days, sounds like just winding through the minutes with all 3 hands moving. Much quicker using just the jumping hour hand.
Actually the 24hr hand should give you an idea if it’s AM or PM
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Old 2 March 2019, 11:02 AM   #37
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It's definitely a pita. I rotate the hour hand twice to make sure the hands correspond. Repeat until the date is a day behind then finally rotate the minute hand to get into current date and time. If there is a faster way I'd love to know about it.
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Old 2 March 2019, 12:55 PM   #38
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This is the worst things about the GMT movement - no quickset.

Jumping hours is very good feature but seriously how hard would it have been to incorporate a quickset date? One of my pet peeves with the GMT movement
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Old 2 March 2019, 01:37 PM   #39
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hey, there's no such thing as a silly question.

Life is just one big learning curve for all of us and we all learn something new every day.

Enjoy the new gmt, they're fabulous watches.
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Old 2 March 2019, 03:04 PM   #40
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Hey folks, bought my watch start of Jan and it rolled over into Feb on the correct day but today it was reading 29 in the date window and I had to push it through past 30 and onto the 1st so obviously it's not been set properly before I got it.

Is there an easy way to date align it or will I have to wind the hour hand hundreds of times to try and match the month up - or should I just leave it alone and not really worry about it much ?

Sorry for the silly question :)

The jumping hour hand runs quite fast so it isnt really a problem to set the date. You can also run it backwards depending on the date you want to set so its quicker. Of course a quick set date like on the sub is still faster.
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Old 2 March 2019, 03:13 PM   #41
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This thread reminded me to move my EXPII Polar ahead to March 2nd so thanks!
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Old 2 March 2019, 03:51 PM   #42
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I’ve seen the GMT date set function described as “semi-quickset.” I would add that you can move the date date forward or backward depending on whether you rotate the independent hour hand forward or backward. If your watch is idle more than a few days, say it’s been stopped for 3 weeks, this helps in that you don’t have to advance forward through so many days - you can just move the date backwards a few days. In practice, it’s not all that inconvenient or time-consuming to set the date and is just a quirky part of this watches soul and therefore it should be loved and admired.
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Old 2 March 2019, 04:49 PM   #43
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I guess you could say that the GMT Master II is like the last of the air cooled Porsche 911s but the SkyDweller is more like a modern water cooled 911?
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Old 2 March 2019, 09:17 PM   #44
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OP, you should read about annual calendar versus perpetual calendar differences. the sub and gmt are neither of those. adjusting the date on a GMT (the ones without quickset date, so the majority) is a matter of seconds, just pull the crown 1 step and turn the hours hand, i don't see the issue, and find it even more convenient than on my SD, because on this one, you will have to remember to set the date in the morning, otherwise it will change at mid day, but either are easy. the sky dweller is an annual calendar, and if you want to go perpetual, forget about the tool watch, it is a different game really.
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Old 2 March 2019, 10:05 PM   #45
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Can I be cheeky and mention "Skydweller", the only watch on the planet that recognises February, and all the other months, just not a leap year.
I guess you did, but the SkyDweller does NOT recognise February, it is the only month of the year when you need to use the Command Ring bezel to change the date. Unless of course you let the watch stop!
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Old 15 February 2020, 10:21 AM   #46
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I hate that it doesn't have the quick set. If I happen to be behind 15 days then it requires 30 revolutions of the hour hand to get the date correct. As opposed to maybe 1-2 turns of the crown for a quick set.
I have a $250 Orient GMT that has both a Quickset GMT hand and a Quickset date. Why can't the "amazing" Rolex make such a movement for their $15,000 GMTII? So Rolex doesn't have the best GMT function?? Seriously? Are we to believe they have been beaten here by a $250 Seiko"?
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Old 15 February 2020, 10:36 AM   #47
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The jumping hour hand runs quite fast so it isnt really a problem to set the date. You can also run it backwards depending on the date you want to set so its quicker. Of course a quick set date like on the sub is still faster.
Yeah, but a 3186 jump hand feels like it’s gonna break off at every click!
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Old 16 February 2020, 08:36 AM   #48
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The new GMT's are an expensive watch!!!

So why hasn't Rolex updated this movement to properly do quick set date?

It's not like the movement hasn't been around a very long time!
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Old 16 February 2020, 09:29 AM   #49
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If your a pilot or frequent traveler and cross the international date line you will not find a Submariner easier because you would have to advance it but with a GMT master you can reverse the date. To accomplish a quick date would require a 4th. crown position or defeat the intention of a true GMT. It is perfect just the way it is I advance or reverse the date a few times weekly when I fly past the international date line. You likely don't have a good understanding of how to utilize all function's of a true GMT watch and remember this is intended to be a tool watch and this movement 3285 is only in it's second year it's very new.
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Old 16 February 2020, 09:52 AM   #50
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I'm in the camp the GMT needs a quick set date. It can get annoying setting the date especially once the novelty wears off.
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Old 16 February 2020, 10:01 AM   #51
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This is going to be a very unpopular opinion on this forum but this is one of the key reasons why I went for the 9f85 for my new travel watch. If I don’t touch the watch for a month the date is only out by about 1 day if at all.

The other reason is that grand seiko is much lower key and suits me better for travelling.


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Old 16 February 2020, 10:20 AM   #52
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This is going to be a very unpopular opinion on this forum but this is one of the key reasons why I went for the 9f85 for my new travel watch. If I don’t touch the watch for a month the date is only out by about 1 day if at all.

The other reason is that grand seiko is much lower key and suits me better for travelling.


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Old 16 February 2020, 10:24 AM   #53
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This is going to be a very unpopular opinion on this forum but this is one of the key reasons why I went for the 9f85 for my new travel watch. If I don’t touch the watch for a month the date is only out by about 1 day if at all.

The other reason is that grand seiko is much lower key and suits me better for travelling.


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not unpopular, just confused. the date/independent hour hand function works the same on a GMTii as on a 9f85.
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Yeah, but a 3186 jump hand feels like it’s gonna break off at every click!


It does... usually when you're using it on travel and that requires a $750 service.
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This is going to be a very unpopular opinion on this forum but this is one of the key reasons why I went for the 9f85 for my new travel watch. If I don’t touch the watch for a month the date is only out by about 1 day if at all.

The other reason is that grand seiko is much lower key and suits me better for travelling.


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Unpopular sure.. but pragmatic...spot on... I 100% Agree with you.. that's why I bought an Orient GMT..
I wouldn't take a 10K Rolex watch travelling with me OS anyway

Risk of theft or loss way too high..

That's why I think the older 16700 is a better watch for a daily GMT "wear"..that quickest date makes it so much more practical.. my guess is few use a GMT anymore for what it was initially intended..the Rolex anyway..

It's just way to pricey now as a tool watch time "traveller"..

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Old 16 February 2020, 10:55 AM   #56
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Isn't it more annoying to have to hack the movement for daylight savings time then do it again in October. It would require a 4th. crown position which makes no sense. It takes about 3 seconds each time to advance the date 5 times a year. I would never want to give up independent control of the hour hand for that.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:07 AM   #57
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Isn't it more annoying to have to hack the movement for daylight savings time then do it again in October. It would require a 4th. crown position which makes no sense. It takes about 3 seconds each time to advance the date 5 times a year. I would never want to give up independent control of the hour hand for that.
Sure I think the problem though, is for those who have multiple watches and leave their GMT alone on the shelf a week or so..
High class problem.. sure..
Maybe get a watch winder?
But if I had a $10-20,000 watch I wouldn't be wearing it out on public transport etc and to work everyday...
I think that's the problem..
The Rolex GMT at 10-15K is no longer a "tool watch" for everyday wear..
Well not for some occupations and circumstances anyway..
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Old 17 February 2020, 03:08 AM   #58
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not unpopular, just confused. the date/independent hour hand function works the same on a GMTii as on a 9f85.
Yep same mechanism but as it is quartz it’s never off the actually date by much. I never have to sit there making the hour hand go around in circles.
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Old 17 February 2020, 04:02 AM   #59
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The guy who necrobumped this thread is going to have a fit when he discovers that there are $50k Pateks that don't hack.
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Submariner: Quick set date function
GMT-master: You need to rotate the hour hand 24-clickes to progress 1 date number.

Submariner is just so plain more easy.

Disclaimer: 16750 had the quick date-set function...

What is quick set date function? Have sub and never noticed it.
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