Bigger Sub next?

[KDS777]

I'd love to see a larger Sub...........in YG of course. All they've got to do is copy the DSSD or SD43 and I'd be happy.

[The Libertine]

Let's hope not.

[SubSensei]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

Why would they do a 42mm sub. They just launched a 43mm sub. Better chance of hell freezing over.

I bet you would of said the same thing about a sea dweller having a cyclops.....hmmmm seems Hell is starting to get chilly..

But I do get your joke...

[Etschell]

Never going to happen. Hans himself promised me.

[Shamorai]

I'd love to see a 42mm sub with the 5 digit shape, released in black, green and blue.
42 mm GMT too!

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

a trend is short term

bellbottoms were a trend......parachute pants were a trend......michael jackson jackets were a trend

40 plus mm watches? not a trend

its been well over 10 years now approaching 15

most iconic chrono on earth......42mm

#heretostay

#notatrend

I gave the definition of trend. Do you know what a trend line is? It's not a short term phenomena. You're talking about a fad, which the watch size may or may not be.

There's clearly a trend towards larger watch cases.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

I gave the definition of trend. Do you know what a trend line is? It's not a short term phenomena. You're talking about a fad, which the watch size may or may not be.

There's clearly a trend towards larger watch cases.

No theres not. Omegas POs have been 42,45.5 now 43.5mm FOR YEARS!!

Speedy pro has been 42mm for years

Pam PP VC AP list gos on

Rolex has even produced the deepsea now for approx 8 years

There is no trend. 40-45mm are here to stay. Ar some point it stops being a trend. That point has passed.

Why are the only ones who whine rolex purists????

No one else whines

[Dr.Smellody]

Leave perfection alone.

[Mystro]

I am in for 42mm Sub.

[eonflux]

The 3235 movement in the SD43 and the 3135 in the Subc (and DSSD and SD40) are 28.5 mm in diameter. There was no need to move to a wider case for the new movement.

Perhaps the 3235 could slot into the Subc if Rolex wanted to without changing anything about the case. The dials look to be the same size on the SD43 and Subc.

With a cyclops the SD43 is basically a larger Sub.
Now those who wanted a larger Sub can get one (and Rolex makes more money per watch), and those that want a 40 mm diver have an option. Everyone should be happy.

[marcellomatt5]

Please don't... just don't...

I hope a reshape of the lugs like the SD43, but in 40mm.

[Toomanyms]

don't forget the Daytona . please increase it to 42mm

[jfoord27]

Has it been a trend, where larger watches are trendy and may go out of trend in the future...

Or an evolution, where watches over time evolved to having larger cases on a more permanent basis?

[Hotrod297]

I hope not, but you never know? I think they'll keep this design size for a very long time.

[kboy2379]

An increase in size (up to the SD50 size) I think would be a nice upgrade as long as the case is still thin. Let face it, these days a bigger watch is the norm.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by eonflux

The 3235 movement in the SD43 and the 3135 in the Subc (and DSSD and SD40) are 28.5 mm in diameter. There was no need to move to a wider case for the new movement.

Perhaps the 3235 could slot into the Subc if Rolex wanted to without changing anything about the case. The dials look to be the same size on the SD43 and Subc.

With a cyclops the SD43 is basically a larger Sub.
Now those who wanted a larger Sub can get one (and Rolex makes more money per watch), and those that want a 40 mm diver have an option. Everyone should be happy.

Well said. If the 40mm bullys had there way we would all be driving Model T's.

[Ally9]

More chance that SDDS is discontinued IMO

[padi56]

For me being just over 6ft and with 8.50 inch wrists the sub is a perfect size now for me.But with today's stereotyped fashion trend that bigger and heavier is better I have just heard from Rolex CEO who is a personal friend, that sometime in 2018 all Rolex watches will be made of a special lead alloy instead of SS.But this is no ordinary lead this lead is super refined and cerachrome coated.And I heard that Rolex is going to launch a range of watches Basel 2018 with interchangeable cases,ranging from 40mm, 42mm, 44mm right up to 72mm for when you want a super-size wear watch day .Now this range will be supplied with easy open case backs that are self sealing, just pop open, pop out movement and change case and wear.But again like many rumours some of these rumours are just rumours just like the many Rolex myths on the net.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Ally9

More chance that SDDS is discontinued IMO

Agree there. I think sales will tank on the DSSD, particularly black.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

Well said. If the 40mm bullys had there way we would all be driving Model T's.

Come on man 40 mm bullies

In practice your Speedy Pro that you put on a pedestal truly is a great watch, but you're fooling yourself if you think that isn't the actual model T of watches. A 40 mm maxi Sub is about the same size as a 42mm Speedy Pro, and includes modern pieces of technology such as the Glidelock feature and PVD Platinum Ceramic bezel.

[masyv6]

I certainly hope they don't increase the size of the Sub. I think the current size with the more muscular case is the perfect modernization of a classic icon. Increasing the case size (and case thickness, almost certainly) would start to hurt the all-around wearability of the Sub.

[rossi46]

Originally Posted by eonflux

The 3235 movement in the SD43 and the 3135 in the Subc (and DSSD and SD40) are 28.5 mm in diameter. There was no need to move to a wider case for the new movement.

This.

The Submariner will get the new movement (hope sooner than later) and there's no need for it to increase in size. I seriously doubt Rolex will ever increase the Sub to >40mm. As others have said, the SD43 now serves that purpose.

[Bernie.H.]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

No theres not. Omegas POs have been 42,45.5 now 43.5mm FOR YEARS!!

Speedy pro has been 42mm for years

Pam PP VC AP list gos on

Rolex has even produced the deepsea now for approx 8 years

There is no trend. 40-45mm are here to stay. Ar some point it stops being a trend. That point has passed.

Why are the only ones who whine rolex purists????

No one else whines

Exactly, it is strange how some people are obsessed with the numbers 40mm, they often don't even want watches like the Sub to be made in a choice of sizes like the Planet Oceans. They just think they are the only ones that count and everyone must have size 14 collars, size 36 jackets, size 7 shoes and 40mm watches.....just like them. You referred to them as bullies, I always think of them as the 40mm Taliban who want to bore us to death by repeating the mantra 'The big watch fad is over' .......... they are funny

[904VT]

Originally Posted by Bernie.H.

Exactly, it is strange how some people are obsessed with the numbers 40mm, they often don't even want watches like the Sub to be made in a choice of sizes like the Planet Oceans. They just think they are the only ones that count and everyone must have size 14 collars, size 36 jackets, size 7 shoes and 40mm watches.....just like them. You referred to them as bullies, I always think of them as the 40mm Taliban who want to bore us to death by repeating the mantra 'The big watch fad is over' .......... they are funny

It's because 40mm is more closely aligned with the history of the watch. If you want bigger, what's your problem with looking to the DSSD? Why must Rolex offer multiple versions of the Sub when they already offer SS Professional models in 42mm, 44mm, and now 43mm in addition to the maxi case 40mm Subs and GMT Masters? Not to mention the SS Daytona giving additional size for some.

It has nothing to do with a one-size fits all mentality, but rather brand dilution. Look at Omega as a perfect example of what happens to demand for a model range and aftermarket values when you make every variation possible. Food for thought at least as I don't think anyone believes a particular size watch is right for every single person out there, not even Rolex as they produce a wide variation of both men and women's sizes.

I really don't get the argument you guys are trying to make i.e. that Rolex should make multiple sizes of each model just because some people would like. That's not a very good business model. Not from a production viewpoint nor inventory management viewpoint. Rolex is at the top of their game when it comes to all aspects of running a watch company.

[sea-dweller]

Happy with the 40mm case, but a larger model would be great for those with larger wrists!

[Bernie.H.]

Originally Posted by 904VT

It's because 40mm is more closely aligned with the history of the watch. If you want bigger, what's your problem with looking to the DSSD? Why must Rolex offer multiple versions of the Sub when they already offer SS Professional models in 42mm, 44mm, and now 43mm in addition to the maxi case 40mm Subs and GMT Masters? Not to mention the SS Daytona giving additional size for some.

It has nothing to do with a one-size fits all mentality, but rather brand dilution. Look at Omega as a perfect example of what happens to demand for a model range and aftermarket values when you make every variation possible. Food for thought at least as I don't think anyone believes a particular size watch is right for every single person out there, not even Rolex as they produce a wide variation of both men and women's sizes.

I really don't get the argument you guys are trying to make i.e. that Rolex should make multiple sizes of each model just because some people would like. That's not a very good business model from a production viewpoint nor inventory management viewpoint. Rolex is at the top of their game when it comes to all aspects of running a watch company.

Wow you really have just confirmed what is being said, so let's get this clear, if someone would like a Submariner for example but consider it a little on the small side, that according to you is 'tough' because you have got the watch in the size you want and they have to find something else.....I see.
You then go on to mention the Daytona, so which Rolex Chronograph should someone buy if they think that is too small ?
Rolex hold their value better than Omega because of marketing. You do seem to be a bit of a fanboy who thinks they can do know wrong. I hope you are not one of those guys who has a picture of Wilsdorf by the side of his bed, complete with splashproof screen.

[Jsanders1985]

Why couldn't Rolex offer both a 40mm and 42mm size option like other brands do?

[904VT]

Originally Posted by Bernie.H.

Wow you really have just confirmed what is being said, so let's get this clear, if someone would like a Submariner for example but consider it a little on the small side, that according to you is 'tough' because you have got the watch in the size you want and they have to find something else.....I see.
You then go on to mention the Daytona, so which Rolex Chronograph should someone buy if they think that is too small ?
Rolex hold their value better than Omega because of marketing. You do seem to be a bit of a fanboy who thinks they can do know wrong. I hope you are not one of those guys who has a picture of Wilsdorf by the side of his bed, complete with splashproof screen.

I'm not sure why you need Rolex to fill all those spots in your collection quite honestly. I own other brands of course as many Rolex owners do. Rolex doesn't have to offer every size of every model. You have a SD43 and DSSD model that are very close in style/appearance/function to the Sub and yet different sizes. Why add more production costs for something like a 42mm Sub if you're Rolex for a marginal market with probable decreasing profit margins at that point? Not sure why you think Rolex needs to add more dive watches considering the 4 solid models they do now(Sub, Sub Date, SD43, DSSD. Not to mention color variations in the LV and D-Blue. More just dilutes brand value, which you didn't address at all as Rolex's business model has never been to offer as many variations of models as some other manufactures. You seem more of a troll type, so I'll leave you be

Oh and if you want a bigger Rolex chrono than the Daytona, get a YM2 perhaps!

[Loevhagen]

If people want a large watch - buy a Panerai. Let's keep Rolex "normal" sized.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by sea-dweller

Happy with the 40mm case, but a larger model would be great for those with larger wrists!

Indeed. If only Rolex offered 43mm and 44mm Diver options...

I swear, the "IT'S NOT A FAD" guys won't be happy until every single Rolex reference is 42mm+.