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strass.arnold · 8 June 2017, 12:31 AM

That color!!! wow I had never seen that on an M3 before, I had only seen the Miami blue 991. Why not just jump into a Miami Blue Porsche instead since those are already right up your alley?

Psmith · 8 June 2017, 12:38 AM

M3 or Alfa Quad

h20addict · 8 June 2017, 01:12 AM

To go against the grain here, I'd also consider an Audi RS7 or even a new Cadillac CTS-V (granted I may be biased)

GB-man · 8 June 2017, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rabdal897

How do you guys feel about this? I found this a few days ago and I'm so curious on wether not it's worth waiting for. I know its in a completely different price point, but I might be able to swing it for the v8 life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6ktMWakBc

Sounds a bit like the jag supercharged v8 which isn't a bad thing.

triethylborane · 8 June 2017, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rabdal897

How do you guys feel about this? I found this a few days ago and I'm so curious on wether not it's worth waiting for. I know its in a completely different price point, but I might be able to swing it for the v8 life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6ktMWakBc

Eh, new 8er is going to be interesting, but nowhere as gorgeous as the E31. And given BMW's penchant of late to slap M badges on everything, I think the M8 is definitely going to go into production, unlike the E31 M8. Different price point? Yeah, $300k+ USD.

From what you have posted, Id say an AMG is probably a better fit.

FSUGeoff · 8 June 2017, 03:36 AM

I'll leave this right here for your thoughts....

http://www.caranddriver.com/alfa-rom...a-quadrifoglio

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

Manofsteelpt · 8 June 2017, 08:49 AM

Mercedes Benz... The Best, or Nothing.

I'd pick the AMG, but I'm biased

1st amg · 8 June 2017, 10:54 AM

The AMG is the brute of the class with luxury infused. It looks the part and looks expensive. I feel the M3/4 looks gaudy, child boy racer and below average in the luxury department. Go AMG, it truly makes you feel great.

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DeeTee · 8 June 2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st amg

The AMG is the brute of the class with luxury infused. It looks the part and looks expensive. I feel the M3/4 looks gaudy, child boy racer and below average in the luxury department. Go AMG, it truly makes you feel great.

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#Fightingwords

superdog · 8 June 2017, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st amg

The AMG is the brute of the class with luxury infused. It looks the part and looks expensive. I feel the M3/4 looks gaudy, child boy racer and below average in the luxury department. Go AMG, it truly makes you feel great.

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Sorry DT, but I can't help but agree.

It doesn't translate into the entire lineup. But to me, the M3 is disappointing. Then again, it's a legend so it has a lot to live up to. But this version, it just doesn't do it for me.

nick c · 8 June 2017, 11:22 AM

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nick c · 8 June 2017, 11:22 AM

The only one I like m3 e46

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DeeTee · 8 June 2017, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by superdog

Sorry DT, but I can't help but agree.

It doesn't translate into the entire lineup. But to me, the M3 is disappointing. Then again, it's a legend so it has a lot to live up to. But this version, it just doesn't do it for me.

#notyoutooseth

I personally thought the C63 interior was a bit shnitzy. Most people don't go the whole way with their M3/M4 and get the Full Merino leather since the price gets closer to 100k.

Also, I'm not a fan of the drive. If you want to have a blast every time you jump in, get the M. If you want to ride a car that feels as heavy as an SUV, get the C63.

I respect AMG. The engine and exhaust combos are to die for, especially the old 6.2L NA V8. If I was to go AMG route it would the higher end models 150K+. The C63 just seems like a "starter" AMG, while the 3/4 series BMW is the highlight of the brand.

If you want a large big body, go Mercedes.
If you want fun and sport, go BMW.

DeeTee · 8 June 2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nick c

The only one I like m3 e46

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I'm contemplating getting an E46 coupe in Laguna Seca Blue. Wife would be pissed if I showed up with another car though

nick c · 8 June 2017, 12:19 PM

The one above was a ride off my current one is 04 laguna blue convertible 410 hp love it

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RHIII · 8 June 2017, 12:47 PM

Not that there is a wrong answer with either option...I'm biased --I'm a big M fan-- so I'd say M3 ---

I love my M4

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RHIII · 8 June 2017, 12:47 PM

Good luck!!

rabdal897 · 8 June 2017, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nick c

The one above was a ride off my current one is 04 laguna blue convertible 410 hp love it

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I love this! I used to have a Laguna blue hard top 6-speed. Is yours supercharged or turbo to get to 410?

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rabdal897 · 8 June 2017, 11:29 PM

UPDATE!

So I went and test drove the Alfa. I'd say it drives much the same as the M3, wayyy better than the c63S. Also the sound is much better seeing as it has that Ferrari derived motor.

Only thing I'd say is, it didn't quite feel as expensive as the m3 for the money. Not all of the materials were up to par I'd say. Also the door is sort of small, I'm a tall person and I found it a bit awkward to step inside.

So as it stands, the alfa is out. the merc is out. However, the M3 hasn't completely won my heart over. I revisited and to me it sounds a bit too robotic if that makes sense. Is there any other 4 door sports saloon I'm missing?

nick c · 8 June 2017, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rabdal897

I love this! I used to have a Laguna blue hard top 6-speed. Is yours supercharged or turbo to get to 410?

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No turbo or supercharged just done a few things

beshannon · 8 June 2017, 11:59 PM

My answer is strictly from a reliability and confidence standpoint.

I have owned two BMW's and two Mercedes.

The Mercedes are hands down more reliable. The BMW's were great to drive when they were not in the shop. I would not buy another BMW.

Good luck.

nick c · 9 June 2017, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

My answer is strictly from a reliability and confidence standpoint.

I have owned two BMW's and two Mercedes.

The Mercedes are hands down more reliable. The BMW's were great to drive when they were not in the shop. I would not buy another BMW.

Good luck.

Are we talking regular BMW or the M engine? Because the M engine are solid

GB-man · 9 June 2017, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabdal897

UPDATE!

So I went and test drove the Alfa. I'd say it drives much the same as the M3, wayyy better than the c63S. Also the sound is much better seeing as it has that Ferrari derived motor.

Only thing I'd say is, it didn't quite feel as expensive as the m3 for the money. Not all of the materials were up to par I'd say. Also the door is sort of small, I'm a tall person and I found it a bit awkward to step inside.

So as it stands, the alfa is out. the merc is out. However, the M3 hasn't completely won my heart over. I revisited and to me it sounds a bit too robotic if that makes sense. Is there any other 4 door sports saloon I'm missing?

The panamera of course. I would have it over any of these choices.

beshannon · 9 June 2017, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

Are we talking regular BMW or the M engine? Because the M engine are solid

Non M BMW's although I did not have any engine problems with either car.

superdog · 9 June 2017, 03:40 AM

^^^

In my X5 50i, I burn excessive oil. It's a known issue.

My dealership actually gives me two quartz to carry around with me in case I need to fill it.

I love the car, but I'll not keep it past the warranty.

brandrea · 9 June 2017, 03:46 AM

Interesting to hear BMW's reliability issues ... I always assumed the newer models were rock solid

strass.arnold · 9 June 2017, 04:04 AM

Honestly, new M's are rock solid as long as you don't mess with them IE tune them or push them too far above their limits.

tmw84 · 9 June 2017, 04:09 AM

Jaguar XE S if you really want to go full on sports mode. Many reviews prefer this to the M3.

C63 if you still want a touch of luxury while flooring it.

rabdal897 · 9 June 2017, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by superdog

^^^

In my X5 50i, I burn excessive oil. It's a known issue.

My dealership actually gives me two quartz to carry around with me in case I need to fill it.

I love the car, but I'll not keep it past the warranty.

Post warranty ownership is like driving around a ticking time bomb. Especially the 50i. What do you see yourself in once it's up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

Interesting to hear BMW's reliability issues ... I always assumed the newer models were rock solid

I've owned a few M's and they've all been rock solid except an X5M that blew the turbos 2k miles into ownership.

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Originally Posted by GB-man

The panamera of course. I would have it over any of these choices.

I'm not a huge fan of the panamera, it drives phenomenally but, it just doesn't have the looks to back it up.

rabdal897 · 9 June 2017, 04:13 AM

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No turbo or supercharged just done a few things

Damn, I should've spent more time with that car before selling it. It's one of the best cars I've ever owned. Is yours SMG or stick?

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