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Old 28 June 2017, 07:43 AM   #31
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Tell the nurse that treats you that, next time you're in need of their assistance.

Ridiculous and offensive statement to millions of hardworking people everywhere.
Billions of hard working people.
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Old 28 June 2017, 07:48 AM   #32
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I read that he means that if you could not afford an expensive watch by the time you are 50, you have failed... I agree.
Now, we know not everyone buys a Rolex, but simply if you don't have a few thousand in savings or disposable income at this point in your life then you have probably not done very well (legitimate sob stories aside)...?
Maybe just maybe , owning a Rolex before your 50 isn't really the No1 priority for millions of successful people . Lots of people have plenty of disposable income and choose not buy a Rolex or any other top end watch with it . The greatest achievement of reaching 50 for me is life's experiences, and learning not to judge people over 50 as a failure because they don't wear an expensive watch.
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Old 28 June 2017, 09:40 AM   #33
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1. Depends what you define as success

2. I'm sure colonel sanders the founder of KFC couldn't afford a rolex at 65

3. I'm fairly certain a lot of very wealthy people don't really buy Rolex


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Old 28 June 2017, 09:47 AM   #34
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I read that he means that if you could not afford an expensive watch by the time you are 50, you have failed... I agree.
Now, we know not everyone buys a Rolex, but simply if you don't have a few thousand in savings or disposable income at this point in your life then you have probably not done very well (legitimate sob stories aside)...?
Nice global view you have there.
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Old 28 June 2017, 09:50 AM   #35
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This is so wrong.

The statement should actually be: "If you don't own a solid gold Rolex by the time you're 50, you're a failure."

I kid, I kid.
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Old 28 June 2017, 09:54 AM   #36
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Not everyone is into the watch or wear a watch anyway.
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Old 28 June 2017, 10:02 AM   #37
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Maybe just maybe , owning a Rolex before your 50 isn't really the No1 priority for millions of successful people . Lots of people have plenty of disposable income and choose not buy a Rolex or any other top end watch with it . The greatest achievement of reaching 50 for me is life's experiences, and learning not to judge people over 50 as a failure because they don't wear an expensive watch.
Yes, it's not even the top priority of the vast majority of this forum who have to be the biggest cluster of Rolex fanatics ever assembled; no one here ever advocates privileging a Rolex or indeed a Patek over family, friends and good health.
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Old 28 June 2017, 11:55 AM   #38
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sigh - what about the guy who owns 5 Pateks that never liked Rolex... dumb thing to say.
It was a dumb thing to say period.
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Old 30 June 2017, 11:59 PM   #39
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Actually there is some truth to what the guy said. In Western nations we're living in an incredible period of prosperity, the greatest in world history. Even people with entry level jobs _could_ afford a Rolex, but they tend to blow their money on other things instead (booze, Starbucks, cars, vacations, clothes etc.) I have little pity on 'the poor' in any Western country, they are actually fat and rich. Even the homeless are very well off (I remember a certain guy who drives a Mercedes.)

The poor in 3rd world countries are indeed poor, electricity and running water are a luxury. It's easy to forget how well off we are.
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Old 1 July 2017, 06:43 AM   #41
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It's strange that Rolex is so imbued with status and achievement when a DJ, the most bountiful model, can be had used in nice condition for under £3k, hardly world changing.
I wasn't there, and it does read rather tasteless but perhaps this is what he actually meant. I kind of agree with him but I'm not on television.
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Old 1 July 2017, 07:21 AM   #42
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Nicolas Sarkozy's closest personal friend has sparked outrage in France by branding anyone who doesn't own a Rolex watch by the age of 50 as 'a failure'.

The remark by millionaire advertising tycoon Jacques Seguela has been branded 'obscene' at a time when millions of French people are struggling with low wages and soaring unemployment.

It will also be acutely embarrassing to the president, who was urged by his own advisors last year to tone down his 'bling' image by not wearing his own £10,000 Rolex and Ray-Ban sunglasses in public.

Seguela - who introduced the president to wife Carla Bruni at a dinner party in November - made the quip during a TV interview this week.

Asked whether he approved of Sarkozy's love of flashy jewellery, the 60-year-old businessman replied: 'So what if he owns a Rolex, we can't blame him for that.

'Everyone has a Rolex. If you don't have a Rolex by the time you reach 50, then you have clearly failed in your life.'

The comment also comes as Sarkozy was hit by polls showing six out of then French people think he is failing to tackle the economic crisis.

But French news website Agora said yesterday: 'This remark is obscene. We would like to shove Seguela's own Rolex down his throat.'

French daily France-Soir said: 'There is a global financial crisis and people are struggling to make ends meet. Most workers will find this highly offensive.'



Jean-Frangois Copi, presdient of Sarkozy's own UMP party, added: 'It is ridiculous to say owning a Rolex is a mark of success in life.

'Success is realising your goals, being able to do the things you want to, and being with the person you love.'


Seguela refused to apologise for the comment, saying he only said it because he was 'trapped' by the journalist on the France 2 morning news programme.

Exactly the kind of twaty statement that gives Rolex owners, BMW drivers etc... a bad name. I've owned three and I'm 33, but I'm by no means a 'success' by that metric. I consider the fact that I own my own home, with the woman I love more than anything I this world and am perusing my dream career, much more of a marker of success.

My Dad is 73 and has never owned a Rolex, but he has an MBE and has lived more than most ever do. Measuring ones life based on superfluous rubbish like this a sure fire way to die unfulfilled.

I love my watches but they don't define me.
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Old 1 July 2017, 07:46 AM   #43
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This is so wrong.

The statement should actually be: "If you don't own a solid gold Rolex by the time you're 50, you're a failure."

I kid, I kid.
At least this makes a bit more sense. A gold Rolex at £25K is an extravagance whatever way you look at it and costs more than most family cars, but the steel versions are held in just the same regard and awe by most normal people I know who have a car that costs double or triple one.

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It's strange that Rolex is so imbued with status and achievement when a DJ, the most bountiful model, can be had used in nice condition for under £3k, hardly world changing.
My first car/old banger cost about £3K when I was a kid and I hadn't achieved fk all.
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Old 1 July 2017, 07:50 AM   #44
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What about if you don't have a strong family with kids doing well by the time you are 50... but as long as you are all alone with a Rolex all is fine.
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Old 1 July 2017, 08:28 AM   #45
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My first car/old banger cost about £3K when I was a kid and I hadn't achieved fk all.
Well as a kid you can spend everything you have and still have somewhere to live...as an adult you need several £3ks before you can spend £3k all at once

Actually I'm thinking this is how there are a lot of young people with rolexes these days with car insurance being so expensive and all that maybe they change their priorities...a Rolex pulls more girls than a 8 yr old Vauxhall Astra
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Old 1 July 2017, 08:48 AM   #46
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The most I can say to defend this is to rephrase as 'if you are living in a developed country and you can't afford a $7,000 or so needless luxury by the time you are 50 then you aren't particiculary financially succesful'. For some people it may be a watch, for others is may be something else, like a motorcycle to tool around. Kind of stupid statement, but not particularly controversial if rephrased without the snooty douche-baggery. Of course some people may not value luxury goods in life, which is why the statement is kind of meaningless.

The thing about luxury watches is that most middle class, financially stable can afford one if they want, it's just that most people don't particuarly see the value in spending so much money on a watch, which is probably the sane view.
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Old 1 July 2017, 08:51 AM   #47
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I read that he means that if you could not afford an expensive watch by the time you are 50, you have failed... I agree.
Now, we know not everyone buys a Rolex, but simply if you don't have a few thousand in savings or disposable income at this point in your life then you have probably not done very well (legitimate sob stories aside)...?
You sir are part of the reason the world is in such a mess, greed!
Also why Rolex watches have a bad reputation of being bought by dumbass's with money

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Old 1 July 2017, 09:49 AM   #48
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Some people are successful at life, very happy, healthy, great family and friends, small income.

Some people are millionaires and miserable......
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Old 1 July 2017, 11:25 AM   #49
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...a Rolex pulls more girls than a 8 yr old Vauxhall Astra
I don't know about teenage girls any more but I do know a Rolex gets you too much attention and quite frankly some mild bullying at strip clubs... so no more stag parties there
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You sir are part of the reason the world is in such a mess, greed!
Also why Rolex watches have a bad reputation of being bought by dumbass's with money

Wow that was the angriest post I've ever made on TRF!
I believe you, no one from Hampshire has ever said dumbass before.
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Old 1 July 2017, 11:36 AM   #51
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Looks like I made it by the skin of my teeth. I'm 47.

I am also not rich, not a dumbass or douchebag. I have worked hard for a long time and like things of quality and value. That's right, I said value. My Rolex was purchased pre-owned and is almost 35 years old. I'm okay with that.
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Old 1 July 2017, 11:39 AM   #52
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I bought my first Rolex at age 62, so obviously I f**ked it all up.

I did own at age 50 what I thought was a very professional and tasteful Hamilton tank on a strap.

Meanwhile, I have to be a little saddened by some of the First-World trolling going on in this thread.
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When I was in Cambodia, I saw people beyond the poorest I have ever seen. I remember there was this kid about 4 that had cat whiskers drawn on his face by his mom. They lived in a dirt floor hut about 10ft by 10ft. They were laughing and having fun and happier than 95% of the western people I see in first world countries. In fact, most of the people I ran across lived in the same conditions, but most all were happy as could be, always smiled and had a friendly disposition.

Anyone that equates success simply in terms of money doesn't know anything about life or success.
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Old 1 July 2017, 12:19 PM   #54
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I bought my first (with actual money I earned) while putting myself through undergrad. I might have been 20, I don't remember. My pretty huge watch collection means I spent a lot of money on what amounts to pretty useless stuff - not that I'm a success.
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The good thing about being a 'nobody' is that journalists don't quote every dumb or frivolous thing you say.
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Old 1 July 2017, 09:00 PM   #56
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I bought a 5513 when I was about 22. Other guys my age at the time were paying out the nose for flash cars. It's always about how you prioritize your resources, not whether you're wealthy or "successful".

A friend (in his 50's) just spent $80K on a Ranger bass boat he'll use about ten times a year. What's $9K on a watch compared to that?
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Old 2 July 2017, 04:16 AM   #57
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1. Depends what you define as success

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I wonder if taking a literal translation to a French speaker doesn't change the native meaning.
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Old 2 July 2017, 04:38 AM   #59
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Since when wealth and Rolex are measures of success!!!!!!
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Old 2 July 2017, 04:59 AM   #60
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My dad raised 3 children alone, we all went to university, my brother is a lawyer and my sister is a Doctor, I manage a team of 80 people. He helped us with our mortgages, helps us with our children, we still refer to him for advice, the best dad one can ever dream of. He never had a Rolex, not sure my dad is a failure.
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