DavidSW 'Unworn' Condition

[Friar]

Bought two watches from David--One was new and one in "excellent" condition. I could not find any signs of wear at all. It was basically new without the plastics. When I'm in the market again, I will start with David.

[GB-man]

Ask David

[FLAJIM]

David is a First Class Gentleman ..... Email him and get your answer... He will make sure you are happy... When I buy my next Rolex I am going straight to David.

Be Safe JIM

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by SeppiFranks

Hi All! Long-time lurker, first time poster. I'm in the market for my first Rolex and have been eyeing the 116610. At first I was in love with the clean look of the 114060, but have since been leaning toward the date, as this watch will be my daily beater. I have seen such glowing reviews of trusted seller David. I was checking out his website recently and saw the Submariner Date listed as unworn condition/plastics in place. I was curious if anyone knew if this was essentially new condition. I was hoping my first piece would be one that hadn't been on display and tried on by perspective buyers if possible.

Thanks!

Vin

i don't see what difference this makes but its your thread... however, no seller except an AD can guarantee a watch wasn't tried on at some point in time. stickers or not.

if you want a virgin watch, buy from an AD.

if you want new without the forensics but min 10% off, buy from a seller with a reputation to protect like DavidSW and others like it.

[fishingbear]

Just call David. He's very candid and has been straight forward with all of my dealings with him and has an impeccable reputation on this very forum. Good luck!

[Benjamin Choi]

Bought three unworn plastics rollies from DavidSW within the past six months. Everything was good except the last watch I bought the outer box had pen marks on it and was missing the styrofoam piece. He mailed me the styro after I let him know it was missing. Sometimes the Rolex hang tags were on the watches. Sometimes not. Attention to detail lacking by my standards. He always ships quick. Cool. Never a thank you for your business. Ever.

Honestly taking my business elsewhere moving forward. Perhaps my expectations are too high, but he's just not nearly as attentive as he once was. Wxwatches is my next go to. Much better communication to date. Five star hotel concierge like.

Just telling it like it is. All business. Nothing personal. I'm probably burning bridges with him but I'm just willing to share my honest experience in this community because I care and it gives me something back.

Glad others are 100% happy with giving him their business. Just not for me and glad he's not the only sheriff in town.




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[jscw]

I bought my Batman from AD, and a unworn YMII from DavidSW last year. Condition-wise, both are undistinguished, at least for me.
As always, YMMV.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by jscw

I bought my Batman from AD, and a unworn YMII from DavidSW last year. Condition-wise, both are undistinguished, at least for me.
As always, YMMV.

Hopefully you meant "indistinguishable".

[jscw]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Hopefully you meant "indistinguishable".

Thanks for the catch. Yes, the "newness" conditions of both watches are "indistinguishable" for me

[havingagoodtime]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi

Everything was good except the last watch I bought the outer box had pen marks on it and was missing the styrofoam piece. He mailed me the styro after I let him know it was missing. Sometimes the Rolex hang tags were on the watches. Sometimes not. Attention to detail lacking by my standards. He always ships quick. Cool. Never a thank you for your business. Ever.

I'd like to mention that I have always been the one to appreciatively extend the thanks to David after my multiple buy-side transactions. After all, he's the one hooking ME up with amazing watches at incredible prices. Of course he's appreciative of our business and that should go without stating. I think it's also safe to say I've always been appreciative of the opportunity to pick up like-new pieces at exceptional bargains, along with next day delivery.

As far as the hang tags not looped through the bracelet upon delivery, that's entirely unacceptable!

[donas]

From him I'd assume it's like new. Just check him out on the who's who section. I've bought several from him.

[Oyster84]

I'm new here also, but what exactly is the 116610? and w/e the other number was? I assume these are model numbers or maybe serial numbers? Wouldn't it be easier to just use the model name or some abbreviation of the name instead these long codes? Just a thought... ;)

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Oyster84

I'm new here also, but what exactly is the 116610? and w/e the other number was? I assume these are model numbers or maybe serial numbers? Wouldn't it be easier to just use the model name or some abbreviation of the name instead these long codes? Just a thought... ;)

Use whatever you feel comfortable with.

[MonBK]

David, I notized you're reading now, send A his wifes hangtag.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by MonBK

David, I notized you're reading now, send A his wifes hangtag.

Good job my friend.

[mjclark32]

I've bought 6 or so pieces from David, they've al been like new or better. Go for it

[Rolex addict]

I've bought three from him. Two with all the stickers and one preowned. One of them had some stickers with the edges coming undone, but not that big a deal for me. There is a sub at me local AD that has a really messed up sticker on the clasp. This is brand new from an AD. Some people are just going to find something to complain about no matter what.

[Syed117]

You need to realize that the vast majority of watches sold do not get sold straight out of those plastic coffins.

Do you have any idea how many times any random watch sitting in a display case has been manhandled by the public. It's pretty gross when you can see tons of oil and fingerprints on a watch that will just get wiped down by the staff and sold to someone. That's just how it works.

Even if you specify that you want an untouched watch that comes straight from a coffin, we see plenty of stories here of ADs letting customers handle watches that are already spoken for.

I can understand legitimate complaints but some people have unrealistic expectations.

[Langnam]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I can understand legitimate complaints but some people have unrealistic expectations.

Complaining on the forum about some writing on an outer box. Cardboard, for crying out loud,
takes the cake for me.

I get the "complete set" bit, but mint boxes is ridiculous.

Seriously, buy the watch you like, not the box.


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[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Langnam

Complaining on the forum about some writing on an outer box. Cardboard, for crying out loud,
takes the cake for me.

I get the "complete set" bit, but mint boxes is ridiculous.

Seriously, buy the watch you like, not the box.


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That's nothing. Over on the Patek sub forum we had an entire thread about whether or not owners would be allowed to keep the brown cardboard shipping box!

Forums get all kinds; most it seems are "normal" collectors and aficionados. There will always be some with sticker/box fetishes, agonizing over the first hairline, or cat's whisker bezel misalignment. To each his own, but for me it would seriously inhibit my enjoyment of the watch were I so afflicted.

DavidSW seems to go out of his way to make every customer happy, regardless how ridiculous the complaint appears to the rest of us.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Tony64

That's nothing. Over on the Patek sub forum we had an entire thread about whether or not owners would be allowed to keep the brown cardboard shipping box!

Forums get all kinds; most it seems are "normal" collectors and aficionados. There will always be some with sticker/box fetishes, agonizing over the first hairline, or cat's whisker bezel misalignment. To each his own, but for me it would seriously inhibit my enjoyment of the watch were I so afflicted.

DavidSW seems to go out of his way to make every customer happy, regardless how ridiculous the complaint appears to the rest of us.

I agree on all parts with a small exception. I do indeed find the dial/rehaut misalignments sloppy business. However that's purely Rolex's responsibility and has nothing to do with a 2nd hand seller as that's how Rolex ships them out. This would be a simple fix with minimal investment IMO. Either that or lose the rehaut engraving entirely. It wouldn't be aggravating if it was just the crown, but when every single letter is supposed to align with a seconds tick mark, it does bother me if it's off.

And 100% agree with what I've seen of David. Literally comes on this thread reaching out to the guy who had an isssue. That's fantastic service.

[Jocke]

If you can't handle a scratch or a mark, just pay full retail and buy it f2f. Whining about some "handle marks" that you will do the first
week after have got a good discount it's not fair to the seller IMHO.

[daveathall]

For heaven sake, do people honestly expect a watch that is untouched by human hands? Stickers in pristine condition? Never out of the coffin? Do people honestly count all the stickers on the watch to see that they are all there? FFS, get real.

The same people are the ones that use the phrase "tool watch" and call it "character" when it gets scratched.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by daveathall

For heaven sake, do people honestly expect a watch that is untouched by human hands? Stickers in pristine condition? Never out of the coffin? Do people honestly count all the stickers on the watch to see that they are all there? FFS, get real.

The same people are the ones that use the phrase "tool watch" and call it "character" when it gets scratched.

On top of that they also want a minimum of 20% discount.

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by MonBK

On top of that they also want a minimum of 20% discount.

That made me laugh, true though my friend.

[JasoninDenver]

Wow. I am surprised at some of the expectations but not at all surprised by DSW's prompt reply to address the posted concerns from the one dissatisfied buyer who may actually have had a legitimate issue.

For my part, I have bought three new Rolexs with stickers from him over the last few years. Every single one was in perfect condition - as I would expect it from the AD. Two had warranty cards already signed but I expected that as it was specified clearly on his listing.

He was always courteous and appreciative of my business. Much more so than I can say of some ADs I have worked with on other purchases.

Buy with confidence. Ask questions if need be. If seeking absolute perfection - go to an AD, inspect in person and pay the premium price for the peace of mind.

[axjimenez]

Originally Posted by MonBK

On top of that they also want a minimum of 20% discount.

But of course they do....

[Magwitch]

I throw the stinking piece of foam in the bin.

[Lordofrolex]

If the stickers are all intact and all the bracelet screws look like they haven't been touched. I would say thats "unworn"

[blackout]

I've done over 15 deals with David and he's always been on point... I have serious OCD so that should say it all. Lol