The kid wanted Gucci loafers, not Ferragamos!

[Headshrinker]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Indeed!

I second that.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Danny83

Gucci is cool there is a rapper named LILPUMP making all the kids want Gucci

Don't the kids have any love for Gucci man anymore the OG Gucci spokesman!

[KrismanX]

The kid screams due to bad parenting; the shoe choice is just a pop culture trend

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by KrismanX

The kid screams due to bad parenting; the shoe choice is just a pop culture trend

When I was about 15, I was making enough money to buy my own clothes and among my peers, Bass, Bostonian, and Converse All-Stars were about the best we could hope for and again, I note that in my case, I was footing the bill and not my father.

My mother would buy a "standard issue" of clothing at the beginning of the school year and anything extra that I wanted, or anything that needed to be replaced, came out of my pocket.

I dressed nicer in those days than I do now.

[Rock]

As young parents we watched many families on modest incomes assiduously train their children to want trendy (expensive) brand-name products.
Our deprived offspring never got any (don't wear any ourselves) because I think they are just lousy value.
Rolex is the exception to my rule. I always liked a nice watch.

[Andrés G]

The kid has good taste, that’s not his fault.

[topgear]

I will buy comfortable shoes for my son but not designer brands.... At least not until he understands the concept of money, risk-reward, that kind of stuff. In my humble opinion, designer brands for kids shall only be a treat and not the norm.

[Star Ferry]

What really pisses me off is seeing young kids with clothes that are too small, worn out, stained, or damaged -- while the mom has decent clothes, a Louis Vuitton bag, and maybe even a smoking habit

Spoiled kids suck, no doubt, but it's better than neglect

Back to topic at hand: 100% the parent's fault. He took the kid to the store, he talked to the sales associate, and he's the one paying. I would not give a 10 year old $500 shoes that they will outgrow or destroy in short order, but I guess some people would

[BravoOne]

Buy the little brat a pair of Keds and be done with it.

[MonBK]

Smack the little brat.

[Syed117]

I think a lot of it has to do with social media.

Kids exposed to everything all the time. Following celebrities on instagram and i'm pretty sure there is something called "rich kids of instagram". Or something like that.

I didn't even know that shoes costing more than $100 existed when I was 10.

Originally Posted by MonBK

Smack the little brat.

I definitely got smacked when I acted out as a child.

I'd rather smack the father for making he kid the way he is.

[AK797]

Gucci is cooler and trendier, Ferragamo is more for the mature man. For the ladies Gucci comes a clear second to LV in brand image at the very competitive mid-luxury level so they must be doing something right, and the few bits and pieces I have and have seen have been well made.

Smacking is now outlawed in Scotland and the rest of UK will follow and kids will become just so unruly. I wish I only got smacked when I was a kid, it was all different back then and most parents used "weapons".

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by AK797

Gucci is cooler and trendier, Ferragamo is more for the mature man. For the ladies Gucci comes a clear second to LV in brand image at the very competitive mid-luxury level so they must be doing something right, and the few bits and pieces I have and have seen have been well made.

Smacking is now outlawed in Scotland and the rest of UK will follow and kids will become just so unruly. I wish I only got smacked when I was a kid, it was all different back then and most parents used "weapons".

Oh I felt some "weapons" as well.

Nothing crazy, but definitely more than just a hand. Also weirdly only from my mother.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by AK797

Smacking is now outlawed in Scotland and the rest of UK will follow and kids will become just so unruly. I wish I only got smacked when I was a kid, it was all different back then and most parents used "weapons".

This explains exactly why so many kids nowadays are brats.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Oh I felt some "weapons" as well.

Nothing crazy, but definitely more than just a hand. Also weirdly only from my mother.

My dad only slapped me once and it’s because I was really being a real asshole.

My mom on the other hand ...lol... she had a 2x4 with my name on it (literally) that she would hit me with.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AK797

Gucci is cooler and trendier, Ferragamo is more for the mature man. For the ladies Gucci comes a clear second to LV in brand image at the very competitive mid-luxury level so they must be doing something right, and the few bits and pieces I have and have seen have been well made.

Smacking is now outlawed in Scotland and the rest of UK will follow and kids will become just so unruly. I wish I only got smacked when I was a kid, it was all different back then and most parents used "weapons".

sounds like my great grandmother. She was the last generation in my family that wasn't afraid to smack the out of us. She use to chase me with a metal sauce spoon that was as long as my forearm

My mother and grandmother use to put soap in our mouths, which was arguably worse!

[InfinityNexus]

I'm not sure if it can be said it's poor parenting: you can only teach someone directly so much. A child like that will never know the difficulty of the 'average' person, no matter how much you might teach to be a good person and treat everyone with respect.
Case in point: I recently dated a girl who's parents were quite well off (not SUPER rich but parents had 5 houses, mom drove a ZR1, she drove a BMW and she was in college). Great girl and treated everyone well, but it made me laugh when she told me the story of when she was in HS and they were discussing mortgages. She raised her hand and asked (public school system in NY) why anyone would take out a mortgage when you could just pay your house off in cash (obviously this is a fair question given how you can deduct the interest off your mortgage, but as you can imagine, it raised a few eyebrows among her peers).

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

When I was about 15, I was making enough money to buy my own clothes and among my peers, Bass, Bostonian, and Converse All-Stars were about the best we could hope for and again, I note that in my case, I was footing the bill and not my father.

My mother would buy a "standard issue" of clothing at the beginning of the school year and anything extra that I wanted, or anything that needed to be replaced, came out of my pocket.

I dressed nicer in those days than I do now.

By the way, what's a Ferragamo?

[BristolCavendish]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I definitely got smacked when I acted out as a child.

Originally Posted by Syed117

Oh I felt some "weapons" as well. Nothing crazy, but definitely more than just a hand. Also weirdly only from my mother.

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

My mom on the other hand ...lol... she had a 2x4 with my name on it (literally) that she would hit me with.

Originally Posted by GB-man

sounds like my great grandmother. She was the last generation in my family that wasn't afraid to smack the out of us. She use to chase me with a metal sauce spoon that was as long as my forearm

Corporal punishment is becoming a thing of the past as many Babyboomer parents are still resentful of the spankings they received during their childhood. As a result, kids today are seemingly more outspoken and inclined to make certain demands.

The belt and hairbrush were 'weapons of choice' in our family household and when used effectively, they left a mark. Nowadays kids can report spankings to the police/social service agencies making things difficult for parents who opt for the more traditional forms of childhood punishments.

Thinking. At 12 years of age, isn't this kid going to quickly outgrow those expensive shoes? It doesn't seem like money well spent.

[FeelingTheBlues]

I tend to think that there is, to a certain extent, a matter of questioning one's education involved, however, surely this is not nearly as scandalous as we make it seem to be.

Sure, he is losing it over high end shoes, a rather absurd situation perhaps but the fact remains that within his parents' and family's lifestyle he remains a kid who will, at times, throw a tantrum. I was not there, surely his reaction could say a lot about his maturity depending on how he actually did it but besides that I think he is merely doing what many (and I'd go as far as say all of us) did at least once at his age. Heck, I bet many of you even know some people of your age who would do the same.

Originally Posted by AK797

Smacking is now outlawed in Scotland and the rest of UK will follow and kids will become just so unruly.

With respect, Neil, surely there are many, many other ways to ensure kids don't become "unruly" without having to smack them.

Originally Posted by benlee

This explains exactly why so many kids nowadays are brats.

How do you explain the many brats that all previous generations had then?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

I tend to think that there is, to a certain extent, a matter of questioning one's education involved, however, surely this is not nearly as scandalous as we make it seem to be.

Sure, he is losing it over high end shoes, a rather absurd situation perhaps but the fact remains that within his parents' and family's lifestyle he remains a kid who will, at times, throw a tantrum. I was not there, surely his reaction could say a lot about his maturity depending on how he actually did it but besides that I think he is merely doing what many (and I'd go as far as say all of us) did at least once at his age. Heck, I bet many of you even know some people of your age who would do the same.



With respect, Neil, surely there are many, many other ways to ensure kids don't become "unruly" without having to smack them.



How do you explain the many brats that all previous generations had then?

I think you need a range of tools and smacking is one, but taking away an iphone is really the best way to keep the kids in line now so no need for anything physical really. Without this you just have to hope your kids have been more influenced by good nature and nurture rather than Nietzsche.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by GB-man

sounds like my great grandmother. She was the last generation in my family that wasn't afraid to smack the out of us. She use to chase me with a metal sauce spoon that was as long as my forearm

My mother and grandmother use to put soap in our mouths, which was arguably worse!

Soap? I thought that was just a myth, sounds horrible like a very clean waterboarding, I'd rather have the hand.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

How do you explain the many brats that all previous generations had then?

There are a lot more brats comparatively speaking nowadays then in previous generations and this is blatantly obvious to anyone. Some kids do listen, some kids don't and that's when corporal punishment is necessary to instil discipline. Ultimately, it's the parent's decision.

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

The kids behavior is most likely a reflection of poor parenting.

Agreed.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AK797

Soap? I thought that was just a myth, sounds horrible like a very clean waterboarding, I'd rather have the hand.

That's no myth lol dawn tastes horrible!

I admit it wasn't a regular occurrence. They rarely caught us

[Kevin O'Brien]

Had to buy my own Ferragamos and my parents were the ones that thought I was the idiot. LOL. Don't know what they would have said if I came home in Gucci slippers.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Kevin O'Brien

Had to buy my own Ferragamos and my parents were the ones that thought I was the idiot. LOL. Don't know what they would have said if I came home in Gucci slippers.

I got hit with slippers but they were never Gucci or Ferragamo...

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think you need a range of tools and smacking is one, but taking away an iphone is really the best way to keep the kids in line now so no need for anything physical really. Without this you just have to hope your kids have been more influenced by good nature and nurture rather than Nietzsche.

I guess we will agree to disagree on that one Neil.

What do I know anyway? I got my first cellphone at 15 and never owned an iPhone, let alone Gucci shoes.

Originally Posted by benlee

There are a lot more brats comparatively speaking nowadays then in previous generations and this is blatantly obvious to anyone. Some kids do listen, some kids don't and that's when corporal punishment is necessary to instil discipline. Ultimately, it's the parent's decision.

I will not argue any further, it is not my intention. I just think this statement you present as a blatantly obvious fact is much more of an opinion. You are, of course, entitled to it but to me that's as far and deep as it gets.

You are very right though, some kids do listen, some don't...and some do at times and don't at other times, I think that's the main task of a child.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by BristolCavendish

Corporal punishment is becoming a thing of the past as many Babyboomer parents are still resentful of the spankings they received during their childhood. As a result, kids today are seemingly more outspoken and inclined to make certain demands.

The belt and hairbrush were 'weapons of choice' in our family household and when used effectively, they left a mark. Nowadays kids can report spankings to the police/social service agencies making things difficult for parents who opt for the more traditional forms of childhood punishments.

Thinking. At 12 years of age, isn't this kid going to quickly outgrow those expensive shoes? It doesn't seem like money well spent.

My sister and I were both hit as children. My sister is about 13 years older than me. I've spoken to her about hitting children and she is totally against it and I am totally in favor of it. It's interesting how opinions on punishment can be so different even between siblings.

When I was younger, I thought I was smart and told my mom a few times that if she hit me, I would call the police. She said that she'd call them for me and would gladly give me up, haha.

I do agree that parenting these days has become so liberal that kids are able to get away with murder. My aunt, for example, is as liberal as they come, lives in Santa Cruz, etc... and lets her kids do whatever they want. As a result, her young son is basically satan in the form of a child. Oh well. Not my problem!

[returntorolex]

Happened five years ago, but still fresh and applies here:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ajc.c...rSQwK/amp.html

Credit: AJC

Summary: 18-yo gets a Ferrari F430 for birthday (thanks Pop!). Has it a week and terrible accident (high speed) claims his life and his passenger/cousin was critically burned.

Prolly wearing Gucci’s.......