What type of Safe are you using ? Share a pic!

[beshannon]

[brandrea]

Safe deposit box at the bank for my valuables. Important documents are filed in my home office desk. I’ve never had a need for a safe.

[AzPaul]

I have a small safe in my bedroom closet. It weighs about 100 lbs.
There are no valuables in it, but I figure if someone breaks in, they'll put all their effort into dealing with it and hopefully not get around to finding what I don't want found.

[Nikrnic]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Safe deposit box at the bank for my valuables. Important documents are filed in my home office desk. I’ve never had a need for a safe.

Yes same here, safety deposit box at bank for valuables, old manual gun safe bolted to the basement floor, a doberman with a big mouth and a .45 cocked and locked. There's nothing in my home worth dying for.

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[Carrera911]

Guys going back to explain again why I opened this thread. I was not looking for tips on where I can find good leads for houses to rob or to make people here share their coordinates to the whole world. My intention was to understand about types of safes and which ones should I consider to purchase along with places in the house to place it.

meganfox17, I'm sorry about the situation your family went through and I understand why you are protective about your privacy. Again, I have no intention on having your personal information, just need an idea for a safe and a location to place it.

Some of your suggestions on this thread where to consult a security company. That is something I don't want. My ideal purchase would be anonymous. I would send the safe to work and would transfer it by myself (or with a friend) to my house and thats it. I wouldn't want a safe reseller or a security company to be aware I have a safe and where I'm going to locate it inside my house.

Additionally, houses in FL are usually made out of wood frame. Ours is going to be like that. So bolting it on the second floor to anything sounds useless to me, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the understanding!

[bayerische]

I have a KASO safe. Like the one in the picture. Weight is over 2000 lbs. No need to bolt.

[meganfox17]

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[Magwitch]

This, but I haven't bolted it down yet...

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Carrera911

Guys going back to explain again why I opened this thread. I was not looking for tips on where I can find good leads for houses to rob or to make people here share their coordinates to the whole world. My intention was to understand about types of safes and which ones should I consider to purchase along with places in the house to place it.

meganfox17, I'm sorry about the situation your family went through and I understand why you are protective about your privacy. Again, I have no intention on having your personal information, just need an idea for a safe and a location to place it.

Some of your suggestions on this thread where to consult a security company. That is something I don't want. My ideal purchase would be anonymous. I would send the safe to work and would transfer it by myself (or with a friend) to my house and thats it. I wouldn't want a safe reseller or a security company to be aware I have a safe and where I'm going to locate it inside my house.
Additionally, houses in FL are usually made out of wood frame. Ours is going to be like that. So bolting it on the second floor to anything sounds useless to me, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the understanding!

Not a great way of approaching this.

Go to a locksmith - they are bonded and do background checks on their employees. Have them install your safe - they know how to do it right. You, on the other hand, are an amateur and will likely hose up the entire process.

No one here knows what you need or how you need to protect your stuff in your location. Our suggestions aren't much more than farts in the wind. Experts know how to do this stuff very well. And bonded experts are like Rolex ADs, they have more to lose by risking your security than they could gain by whatever you possess.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by Carrera911

Additionally, houses in FL are usually made out of wood frame. Ours is going to be like that. So bolting it on the second floor to anything sounds useless to me, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Thinking that anything that would make it more difficult for a would-be thief to find/open/remove the safe from your home, would be a good thing. These folks are generally trying to get in and out as fast as possible, so any impediment to them is likely a worthwhile one for you.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by bayerische

I have a KASO safe. Like the one in the picture. Weight is over 2000 lbs. No need to bolt.

You'll want to bolt it down. I could move it with a special dolly.

The other reason is that some of these knothead criminals think the back is easier to get into, so they push the safe onto its' door. They still don't get in, but now you have to get you safe up off the floor, then fix the floor where that 2000 pounds impacted it.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Carrera911

Guys going back to explain again why I opened this thread. I was not looking for tips on where I can find good leads for houses to rob or to make people here share their coordinates to the whole world. My intention was to understand about types of safes and which ones should I consider to purchase along with places in the house to place it.

meganfox17, I'm sorry about the situation your family went through and I understand why you are protective about your privacy. Again, I have no intention on having your personal information, just need an idea for a safe and a location to place it.

Some of your suggestions on this thread where to consult a security company. That is something I don't want. My ideal purchase would be anonymous. I would send the safe to work and would transfer it by myself (or with a friend) to my house and thats it. I wouldn't want a safe reseller or a security company to be aware I have a safe and where I'm going to locate it inside my house.

Additionally, houses in FL are usually made out of wood frame. Ours is going to be like that. So bolting it on the second floor to anything sounds useless to me, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the understanding!

I can see where you're coming from and appreciate your concerns. I also think you've recieved a bit of unfair criticism.

We've got several members here, and at least one mod, who are current or former law enforcement officers. Maybe one of them can lend some real world expertise, rather than whatever conjecture I could contribute.

Wish I had more to specifically address your question but I fully understand and share many of your concerns and wanted to lend my support.

[Gharddog03]

Sturdy
ForT Knox
Liberty
Amsec

Of course each company has different tiers of security and fire protection.

Ideally bolt to floor and concealed. Any safe can be defeated! So many factors involved.. Time, tools, number of suspects, location, and so on and so forth....

Good luck.

I use Liberty.

[goin camping]

You seem to be asking about small safes.

If a big safe go with a fireproof jewelers safe. That should get you glass anti drilling plates etc. If you have longer items to keep secure. I'd suggest a fireproof Cannon from about 15 years ago. Much heavier steel and anti theft features than are found on current mid level safes.

Since you are building a house. Look at the bookshelves that swing open. That'll let you put in a closet and hide it.

Small safes only work well when set in concrete. Otherwise a bad person could pick it up and walk away.

Best of luck.

[Flyinghunter]

RSC vs TL Ratings:

It's essential to understand what usually passes for a "safe" is nothing of the kind. Companies spend a lot of time on fancy paint jobs, impressive handles, and marketing to convince people they are getting a true safe. However, the vast majority of what's sold are Residential Security Container (RSCs)

Companies give you a shiny fancy looking door, etc, but at the end of the day it's at best RSC rated, and not a "safe" as viewed by anyone who actually knows/installs real safes. It's important to note, not all RSCs are created equal, but when you look at what the actual RSC UL rating means, it will make you cringe:

"UL rated safes that carry the RSC label offer protection from tool attacks against the door of the safe for five minutes. Safes that carry the TL-15 and TL-30 classification offer protection from tool attacks against the safe's door for 15 or 30 minutes, respectively. Safes rated TLTR-15 or TLTR-30 offer protection from tool and torch attacks against the door for 15 or 30 minutes, respectively. Safes that are rated TLTRX6-15 or TLTRX6-30 offer protection from tool and torch attacks against any part of the safe for either 15 or 30 minutes. Of course, the price increases with the protection level."

[Carrera911]

I was watching this the other day. Was shocked at how easily people can open up a safe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RlwGkO0hxE

[Flyinghunter]

Originally Posted by Carrera911

I was watching this the other day. Was shocked at how easily people can open up a safe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RlwGkO0hxE

RSC rating = Not really a safe.

TL rating = Safe

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

You'll want to bolt it down. I could move it with a special dolly.

The other reason is that some of these knothead criminals think the back is easier to get into, so they push the safe onto its' door. They still don't get in, but now you have to get you safe up off the floor, then fix the floor where that 2000 pounds impacted it.

It sits flat on the floor. You have special safe moving equipment, then sure.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by bayerische

It sits flat on the floor. You have special safe moving equipment, then sure.

It’s for moving heavy stuff in general. It also works for safes.

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

It’s for moving heavy stuff in general. It also works for safes.

What kind of equipment is it?

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by bayerische

What kind of equipment is it?

Its a dewar dolly. Its rated to 2500 pounds.

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Its a dewar dolly. Its rated to 2500 pounds.

When we put it in its place, we where 3 men and a dolly.

Took us 4 hours the last few meters. A wall needs to be taken down as it won’t fit.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by bayerische

When we put it in its place, we where 3 men and a dolly.

Took us 4 hours the last few meters. A wall needs to be taken down as it won’t fit.

Crooks don’t care what they do to your house. I think if a crook was intending to rob your safe, they’d bring a pallet jack and haul the thing back to their lair to open it.

They are remarkably tipsy once you get them on edge, which can be done with common burglary tools.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by bayerische

When we put it in its place, we where 3 men and a dolly.

Took us 4 hours the last few meters. A wall needs to be taken down as it won’t fit.

i remember that movie, great flick but the sequel not so much