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TitanCi · 2 March 2018, 07:16 AM

Cool tool to have for simplicity, but why spend that much for a tool? I use a normal spring bar tool and some care. Haven't scratched any of my watches yet!

Compress one side of the spring bar, push up the end link, and move to the other side; re installing is just as easy.

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Easy E · 2 March 2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

I think we cleared out their inventory haha

I'm thinking you did. I just tried to order and the web site is indicating these as "out of stock." So sad for me.

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offrdmania · 2 March 2018, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy E

I'm thinking you did. I just tried to order and the web site is indicating these as "out of stock." So sad for me.

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At least we now know their webpage has live inventory. Im sure they will get more.

Easy E · 2 March 2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

At least we now know their webpage has live inventory. Im sure they will get more.

Well....We have that going for us.

81sforlife · 2 March 2018, 09:17 AM

Just got mine in from Esslinger.com ordered on Monday:

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cfracing · 2 March 2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TitanCi

Cool tool to have for simplicity, but why spend that much for a tool? I use a normal spring bar tool and some care. Haven't scratched any of my watches yet!

Compress one side of the spring bar, push up the end link, and move to the other side; re installing is just as easy.

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Which spring bar tool do you use? I believe Rolex bracelets need a 1.0 mm fork. The smallest one I have is 1.2 mm on my Bergeon 6767-F.

TitanCi · 2 March 2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cfracing

Which spring bar tool do you use? I believe Rolex bracelets need a 1.0 mm fork. The smallest one I have is 1.2 mm on my Bergeon 6767-F.

I use some generic one of that Bergeon I think. The tip is actually a double headed tip; one side is very small and sharp. It's worked for all of my watches. Never had a slip or mishap yet

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81sforlife · 2 March 2018, 10:14 AM

Bergeon 7825 works great!

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Juantxo · 2 March 2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rollee1

The tool will work, just ensure it can fit into the 1mm gap of the end link, even the 6825 needs filing.
I spent a little more on 7825 and never looked back, its worth it for me.

Xactly. The issue are the tip ends. For Rolex they need to be very narrow (1mm says the gentleman above).

teb1013 · 2 March 2018, 11:18 AM

Both of my Rolexes (DJ and Exp II) are older models with holes in the case. My Tudor Black Bay isn’t and it was a real pain to change the bracelet for a band. I managed without the tweezer tool by using a spring bar tool on one side and using a wooden toothpick to hold that side open while I was doing the other side. It was a pain, but it worked. It would still be better with the tweezer tool, I thought there were some available for less than $190 but I don’t really know.

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sillo · 2 March 2018, 11:21 AM

https://www.esslinger.com/horofix-wa...ers-band-tool/

10XRolex · 2 March 2018, 11:29 AM

Couldn't find them in the states since they were on backordered last month. So I ordered the Bergeon 7825 from HS Walsh in the UK.

SemperFi · 2 March 2018, 11:30 AM

Will the Bergeon 7825 also work for the Tudor Black Bay?

cfracing · 2 March 2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanCi

I use some generic one of that Bergeon I think. The tip is actually a double headed tip; one side is very small and sharp. It's worked for all of my watches. Never had a slip or mishap yet

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I probably have that tool also. It was sold by Otto Frei as the FB-504 and is equivalent to the Bergeon 6111. But the smaller fork tip is still 1.20 mm wide and would have to be forced into the 1.0 mm endlink gap, something I don't want to do.

I guess a cheaper alternative to the 7825 are the Horofix pliers in sillo38's link that Otto Frei also sells, but be aware they are made in China.

DoctorA · 2 March 2018, 01:17 PM

Is this horrifix any good? It’s substantially less expensive!

SemperFi · 2 March 2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DoctorA

Is this horrifix any good? It’s substantially less expensive!

I bought it and returned it. Both forks broke the first time I used it.
It’s much too complicated a design for something as simple as a pair of tweezers.

DoctorA · 2 March 2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

I bought it and returned it. Both forks broke the first time I used it.
It’s much too complicated a design for something as simple as a pair of tweezers.

Thank you so much! You saved me the headache of going through the same thing!

SemperFi · 2 March 2018, 01:55 PM

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Thank you so much! You saved me the headache of going through the same thing!

Glad I could save you the trouble.

bdddubs925 · 2 March 2018, 02:09 PM

You get what you pay for. Bergeron is expensive as hell but it will last. Good quality stuff. I wish I had the disposable income for one of their lathes to screw around with. 35k would go to a trackman before that.

kentrojan1 · 2 March 2018, 07:22 PM

I’m kinda curious why people are paying so much for the bergeon 7825 when you can get it much cheaper here!

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cdbeaver66 · 2 March 2018, 08:51 PM

Bergeon 7825 and 6767 is all you need

HONDABBQ · 2 March 2018, 11:02 PM

For any Canadian Somal watches in Ontario has them. that's where I got mine.

offrdmania · 3 March 2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kentrojan1

I’m kinda curious why people are paying so much for the bergeon 7825 when you can get it much cheaper here!

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Because its 1.2mm wide which wont fit a Rolex, needs to be 1.0mm. Also, it has a fixed tip which is not replaceable in case of breakage, damage or wear.

SemperFi · 3 March 2018, 01:00 AM

I’d appreciate it if someone could tell me whether or not the 7825 would work with the Tudor Black Bay.

catsby90 · 3 March 2018, 01:12 AM

They can be found on eBay right now for ~$170 shipped from the UK. I couldn’t find one domestically ATM.

jburson250 · 3 March 2018, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

Im not sure that their web page has live inventory. When I called, the lady said they only had 5 in stock including the one I ordered. I was doing a head count based on the responses in the thread. Maybe someone backed out and you got the last one.

Got my "fulfilled" email with tracking # about an hour after I placed the order. Those folks are fast!

offrdmania · 3 March 2018, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by catsby90

They can be found on eBay right now for ~$170 shipped from the UK. I couldn’t find one domestically ATM.

I recently posted on the first page where they are for sale in the US for $139 but they sold out yesterday. I’m sure they will get more.

offrdmania · 3 March 2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

Here is a US based company that I just ordered from. I just got off the phone with them and they have 4 left in stock. You can do $3.95 shipping if you are ok with it being shipped in an envelope or $7.95 shipping if you want the protection of a box. Order from the web page because they are technically wholesale and only do phone orders with their wholesale accounts. If you are a watch shop or watch retailer, call them for a discounted rate she told me.

http://www.julesborel.com/products/t...ng-spring-bars

I just got off the phone with this company and you guys placed orders for over 20 of these things in the last 2 days. The guy on the phone thought I was giving a class or something and told everyone to go out and buy one HAHA. They will be getting more of them in on around the 15th of March for those of you who missed out this go around. He said to watch the webpage and when they come in and are placed in inventory, it will allow you to add it to the cart.
He said that they are the largest US distributor of Bergeon so they can get whatever you need. Good to know.

ZOOK · 3 March 2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

I just got off the phone with this company and you guys placed orders for over 20 of these things in the last 2 days. The guy on the phone thought I was giving a class or something and told everyone to go out and buy one HAHA. They will be getting more of them in on around the 15th of March for those of you who missed out this go around. He said to watch the webpage and when they come in and are placed in inventory, it will allow you to add it to the cart.
He said that they are the largest US distributor of Bergeon so they can get whatever you need. Good to know.

Thanks for sharing the original info, Matt. Did you ask about a commission?

offrdmania · 3 March 2018, 09:05 AM

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Thanks for sharing the original info, Matt. Did you ask about a commission?

I should have haha

2 March 2018, 09:17 AM	#35
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2 March 2018, 11:30 AM	#43
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	Will the Bergeon 7825 also work for the Tudor Black Bay? __________________ Rolex Submariner Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue Tudor Ranger 79910 Nomos Club Datum 733 Nomos Metro 38 Stowa Flieger Classic 40 * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

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2 March 2018, 07:16 AM	#31
TitanCi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: California Posts: 555	Cool tool to have for simplicity, but why spend that much for a tool? I use a normal spring bar tool and some care. Haven't scratched any of my watches yet! Compress one side of the spring bar, push up the end link, and move to the other side; re installing is just as easy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 March 2018, 11:18 AM	#40
teb1013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Easton PA Posts: 581	Both of my Rolexes (DJ and Exp II) are older models with holes in the case. My Tudor Black Bay isn’t and it was a real pain to change the bracelet for a band. I managed without the tweezer tool by using a spring bar tool on one side and using a wooden toothpick to hold that side open while I was doing the other side. It was a pain, but it worked. It would still be better with the tweezer tool, I thought there were some available for less than $190 but I don’t really know. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

2 March 2018, 11:29 AM	#42
10XRolex 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,597	Couldn't find them in the states since they were on backordered last month. So I ordered the Bergeon 7825 from HS Walsh in the UK.

2 March 2018, 02:09 PM	#49
bdddubs925 Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Ca Posts: 36	You get what you pay for. Bergeron is expensive as hell but it will last. Good quality stuff. I wish I had the disposable income for one of their lathes to screw around with. 35k would go to a trackman before that.

2 March 2018, 07:22 PM	#50
kentrojan1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: ken Location: united kingdom Watch: 124270 Posts: 806	I’m kinda curious why people are paying so much for the bergeon 7825 when you can get it much cheaper here! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	I’d appreciate it if someone could tell me whether or not the 7825 would work with the Tudor Black Bay. __________________ Rolex Submariner Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue Tudor Ranger 79910 Nomos Club Datum 733 Nomos Metro 38 Stowa Flieger Classic 40 * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

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