Lee Perla AD

[tbonesteak]

Originally Posted by superdog

By you own admission, looks like you called in with an agenda. You wanted to see how you would be treated.

Were they rude to you? Did they act without professionalism?

Sounds only as of you got an answer that you didn’t like.

And you keep referencing David. I liked him very much. He was always very good to me. But he left on very bad terms. I don’t know the details. I never asked as it’s not my business.

But you called up, the very day the hottest watch on the planet is hitting the US and asked for it. And you got the exact answer you knew you would get.

And then you come here with an inflammatory post.

Complete lack of class in my opinion. And this thread speaks more about you, than it does them.

You're a good dude, you've got your heart in the right spot, it's in most posts of yours I read.

I see both sides of the coin on this one though, and neither of you are wrong, IMO.

Your side:

You clearly have an excellent relationship at this AD, evidenced by you receiving their first Pepsi. If I was you, I'd absolutely feel the same and stick up for them just like you, fully understand where you're coming from on this one. You've also referred a lot of people there and never heard bad feedback - all makes your case stronger to defend the AD.

You did mention your own business, and also that this sales rep left on bad terms. The sales rep leaving on bad terms has zero to do with the customer in this situation. If you have 12 clients that make up 40% of your business and one of your reps handling some of those clients left, you'd obviously make sure those clients still receive excellent customer service, regardless of the terms that rep left on.

For OP's side of this situation:

Based off of his post, he prob has a roughly $100k history there (2 pm watches, 4 ss watches). Lots of myths & misinformation on this forum - a $100k customer is absolutely a solid customer, that isn't a schlep calling from 6 states over looking for a Daytona, that is someone who has dropped 6 figures worth of cash in this location.

There are only so many whales going into these stores, regardless of perception here. Most of those whales are clueless to the situations we bicker about here. They call for a Daytona or Pepsi, they get one quickly, and for good reason. Now, the OP clearly isn't a whale for this store, but based on the history he provided, as long as he isn't misrepresenting, he is without question a solid customer.

If I had a 6 figure history with someone, and they gave me the same response they give to some random call in with no history, I'd be furious too. If someone gives you $100k of their money, you don't tell them to F themself, which is exactly what 7-8 years is (most ADs are also pretty clueless to what economic cycles are too), that's just a horrific response.

For me, I'd get the reps name, and make sure I got in touch with the owner. I'd have the owner check my history, and after seeing I've spent 6 figures in his store, if he wasn't sympathetic to the response I received, at that point, then I'd put them on blast too. Regardless of how people feel here, $100k is a lot of money, that should earn you respect and honesty from anyone you're a customer of.

Like I said, I see both sides of the argument here, and from where each of you stand, you both feel strongly about your opinions - Bottom line, you'll still be a customer and refer people there and the OP clearly will be taking his future business elsewhere.

[jvd99]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

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if i had a 6 figure history with someone, and they gave me the same response they give to some random call in with no history, i'd be furious too. If someone gives you $100k of their money, you don't tell them to f themself, which is exactly what 7-8 years is (most ads are also pretty clueless to what economic cycles are too), that's just a horrific response.

+1

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by drmovement

I got quoted 7-8 years for a 2018 SS pepsi....

Have bought 6 Rolexes over the years from them... 2 of which were precious metal.



Jokes on me I guess

Time to change AD :)

[superdog]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Time to change AD :)

Why?

Can another AD get one quicker for him?

[peterpl]

This is why there is no such thing as building a relationship with an AD - i dont believe in that concept at all and know a few guys now that have spent 100s of thousands and to be treated in this exact same manner.

Usually you buy from the same sales person and once that sales person leaves well they dont know who you are anymore.

There are high turnaround of employees at most ADs and in general sales roles.

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by peterpl

This is why there is no such thing as building a relationship with an AD. Usually you buy form the same sales person and once that sales person leaves well they dont know who you are anymore.

There are high turnaround of employees at most ADs and in general sales roles.

Some truth to this, however I try to deal with the manager/owner when possible.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by peterpl

This is why there is no such thing as building a relationship with an AD - i dont believe in that concept at all and know a few guys now that have spent 100s of thousands and to be treated in this exact same manner.

Usually you buy form the same sales person and once that sales person leaves well they dont know who you are anymore.

There are high turnaround of employees at most ADs and in general sales roles.

I’ll defend this team all day long.

Maybe I’m biased. But I’m super difficult when it comes to customer service. I expect it to be exceptional. I provide it in my business, and I expect it when I am the customer.

I’m super loyal to these guys because of how good they are. They have earned my loyalty over a very long period of time. And they continue to earn in every interaction.

I’ve posted dozens of compliments about these guys. They have deserved every one and more.

And, this place has minimal turnover at best. I would venture a guess and say that everyone there has a minimum of two years. Some significantly longer.

[Rolexavidfan]

Originally Posted by superdog

I’ll defend this team all day long.



Maybe I’m biased. But I’m super difficult when it comes to customer service. I expect it to be exceptional. I provide it in my business, and I expect it when I am the customer.



I’m super loyal to these guys because of how good they are. They have earned my loyalty over a very long period of time. And they continue to earn in every interaction.



I’ve posted dozens of compliments about these guys. They have deserved every one and more.



And, this place has minimal turnover at best. I would venture a guess and say that everyone there has a minimum of two years. Some significantly longer.

Ill chime in on the employee turnover.

For me, it does happen and you felt that all the good stuff that were done for the relationship. were thrown away because your contact sales person left the store. It happened to me as well. But I had the opportunity to know the owner and from there I was introduce to a new sales person from where to build a relationship again. And I took advantage of it. Just to be clear, I didn’t get the hot stuff immediately but little by little friendship were cultivated, other sales persons were befriended and now I have a terrific relationship with most of the sales persons in the store. It’s also all right if I didn’t get the model I want. Hey they have tons of customers spending more than I have spent so I’ll just continue to be nice and patient and work with them.

Moral of the story: Cultivate the relationship with the AD sales people and not just one sales person.


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[City74]

Honestly buying 6 Rolexes doesn’t even get you into the 6 digits with an AD. Most likely they have customers who spend that on 1 watch. Those are the people they cater to and that’s just how it is. From a business standpoint it makes total sense. From a customer standpoint it sucks. Don’t blame the AD tho, blame Rolex. They are the ones making it like it is.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by City74

Honestly buying 6 Rolexes doesn’t even get you into the 6 digits with an AD. Most likely they have customers who spend that on 1 watch. Those are the people they cater to and that’s just how it is. From a business standpoint it makes total sense. From a customer standpoint it sucks. Don’t blame the AD tho, blame Rolex. They are the ones making it like it is.

[Nikrnic]

I get it but it just sounds funny for anyone to be told 7/8 yrs. At least say maybe 2/3 years, how can they predict what will or will not happen so far into the future. Just sounds more like getting blown off.

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[superdog]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I get it but it just sounds funny for anyone to be told 7/8 yrs. At least say maybe 2/3 years, how can they predict what will or will not happen so far into the future.

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That’s a fair point.

And again, I wasn’t there. I can’t say what was said and what wasn’t.

If I’m wrong, so be it. But I’d bet that those words were not actually said. I’d bet big money on it.

We are relying on a man scorned that came to the internet to vent his frustration on not getting what he wants.

[Nikrnic]

Copy that superdog

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[BillA]

Confusious says: " You are the AD's best friend until you walk out the door"

Confusious also said: "He who thinks they can establish a relationship with an AD should also purchase the Brooklyn Bridge"

[MonsterSS]

dang..... about the same wait time for the run of the mill breaking and entering.... LOL

[Jimbogigolo]

Happen to stumble upon this topic, but I’d like to put my $0.02 in since I have attended a couple of events (Basel showcase 2018 and 2018 NJ GTG) at Lee Perla and have had dealings with them (Rick) regarding waitlists and wait times of Basel pieces.

I will honestly say that I have not made a Rolex purchase at this AD.

What I will say is that is Rick has been honest from the start regarding wait times; he explained that every request is considered but he cannot guarantee a date of delivery. Although to some this seems like rejection, I am sane enough to comprehend that these Basel watches are limited in supply but have very high demand. Sometimes some get lucky, most don’t. But either way, life moves on and it’s going to be OK... I’m sure if they had 10 in the safe, I don’t see why would not sell it.

Recently (despite not having made a purchase) my wife and I was still given an invitation to attend the recent Basel showcase simply due to the fact that I am a local watch enthusiast. Rick did not have to do that. Rick did not coerce me to buy anything in return for the invitation. At the actual event, when one would think that getting an invitation to try on and see the new watches was enough, prior to leaving Rick gave me a swag bag filled with Rolex goodies when he could have reserved that for their top spenders or VIP clients exclusively.

Today I actually went to pick up the extra links I ordered for my white and black ceramic Daytona’s. Rick offered to install it on my watches when in reality I did not purchase these watches from him and he did not have to offer to do it because the store was busy. For $65/link, I felt like I got top notch service. I will likely make a PM purchase with LP and Rick in the near future.

I get the frustrations with limited production or allocation FROM ROLEX. But bad mouthing the business and the sales professionals is in of itself tacky. If you were given false information, lead on or lied to, I would get it. But even then, I probably would not have named the AD over the internet.

Anyway, I wish you luck on your quest. I hope we all find the watches we seek.

Jim


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[opaline460]

Next AD lol

[JackRP]

I have only had one experience with Lee Perla, and it was a negative one. Granted, this was probably 4 years ago, but it made a lasting impression, and I will not give them my business.

I walked in to browse their selection, and to try on a Tudor Pelagos. The salesman clearly had no interest in assisting me, even though the store was empty. I was a bit underwhelmed by the Pelagos, so decided to see what their Rolex stock looked like. Very little communication, despite my attempt to break the uncomfortable silence with friendly conversation.

I soon realized that this was going nowhere, but before I left, I asked about the availability of the BLNR. He said "Yeah we got one in this morning, but it's in the back for a client." He then goes on to say, "We have a really long wait list, so you'd probably have to wait 2-3 years to get one."

I politely ask if I'd be able to jump on the list, explaining that I'm in no hurry. He says, "Uhh sure, give me your name." I give him my name, he writes it down on a scrap of paper, and says, "Okay, I'll give you a call if one becomes available. Have a nice day."

I say, "It might help if you had my phone number." He says "Oh right, I'm sorry.", and jots it down on the back side of the paper.

I decided to check with two other AD's in NJ; one in Short Hills, and the other in Bridgewater. Short Hills came through on the BLNR within a day, and Bridgewater called me a month later. This was my first ever AD purchase. I have since made all of my Rolex purchases from Sydney Thomas in Short Hills.

Still waiting for that call from Lee Perla!

[PLNYC]

Originally Posted by JackRP

I have only had one experience with Lee Perla, and it was a negative one. Granted, this was probably 4 years ago, but it made a lasting impression, and I will not give them my business.

I walked in to browse their selection, and to try on a Tudor Pelagos. The salesman clearly had no interest in assisting me, even though the store was empty. I was a bit underwhelmed by the Pelagos, so decided to see what their Rolex stock looked like. Very little communication, despite my attempt to break the uncomfortable silence with friendly conversation.

I soon realized that this was going nowhere, but before I left, I asked about the availability of the BLNR. He said "Yeah we got one in this morning, but it's in the back for a client." He then goes on to say, "We have a really long wait list, so you'd probably have to wait 2-3 years to get one."

I politely ask if I'd be able to jump on the list, explaining that I'm in no hurry. He says, "Uhh sure, give me your name." I give him my name, he writes it down on a scrap of paper, and says, "Okay, I'll give you a call if one becomes available. Have a nice day."

I say, "It might help if you had my phone number." He says "Oh right, I'm sorry.", and jots it down on the back side of the paper.

I decided to check with two other AD's in NJ; one in Short Hills, and the other in Bridgewater. Short Hills came through on the BLNR within a day, and Bridgewater called me a month later. This was my first ever AD purchase. I have since made all of my Rolex purchases from Sydney Thomas in Short Hills.

Still waiting for that call from Lee Perla!

Shorthills is a hit or miss. I've bought from them and asked t o be put on a list for a daytona and the manager said I'd be 20 something in line for one based on my spending history. Seems like I'll never get it because I don't want anything else Rolex has to offer atm so my spending wont be going up at that store

[Grnvette65]

Op has made a statement he’s purchased from them and for them to check the service history yet still treated in this fashion. I don’t see the relavence of building an ad relationship here. Realizing there are a min of 2 sides to every story... unless op was a total D....he is still the customer and one would expect better handling of the situation.
Interesting my friend talked me into going to lee perla w him this past spring ( he knows I would never buy any Rolex from anyone other than my Ad, and that includes Daytona’s, or what ever hot model). To say the least he was not treated well, I thought to myself this place could only survive in its current location( Bergen county)

[viper]

This is a great AD I agree. I bought my wife's DJ there a few years ago.

[RoyalOac]

I don't see the point in putting the magnifying glass over this particular AD, especially with the thread title. Based on today's market, this is probably in line with answers you would get at any AD. Unless they were particularly rude on the phone, this thread is somewhat harmful to Lee Perla. Personally, I've only purchased one watch from them, a GMT IIc and had a great experience. Rick is a stand up guy and I would be shocked if anyone had anything negative to say about him or Lee Perla.

[watchwatcher]

OK. I'm just gonna say it.

You haven't been paying attention if you think the days exist where you call or drop in and tell someone what you're looking for and they go in the back and bring it out to you. Or even expect to be put on a list with some reasonable expectation of a timely delivery. No. Nope. Nein. No in the language of your choice.

Those days are gone. Long gone. So long gone it's not even funny anymore. (Not that it ever was)

But...enough about the past, let's talk about the present. You buy the thing at a premium or you wait. It's as simple as that. No amount of crying, whining, or complaining is going to change that.

Good luck,

[GB-man]

In person is a must these days unless you’re dealing with the owner. Even then in person is better. Here is a pic of me meeting with my AD last week to discuss the new gmt.



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[pabs]

Originally Posted by GB-man

In person is a must these days unless you’re dealing with the owner. Even then in person is better. Here is a pic of me meeting with my AD last week to discuss the new gmt.



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Hahahahaha this picture made my day!

[tbonesteak]

Originally Posted by pabs

Hahahahaha this picture made my day!

Agreed, that was excellent... Got a good laugh too from that post.

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by GB-man

In person is a must these days unless you’re dealing with the owner. Even then in person is better. Here is a pic of me meeting with my AD last week to discuss the new gmt.



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what an awesome way to make a point! Kidding aside, building relationships is a something we have to work on; and it does pay off, in my experience. As said above, it may not get us what we want every time, but people will help as much as they can, when we have a genuine relationship.


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[SharpyDave]

That's a tough call, are you saying customers who spend the most at a specific AD should get priority? What would happen if you were #2 on the list then a high roller came in a year later and wanted one thus bumping you down? Northern NJ has some pricey areas and a lot of money (Upper Saddle River, Alpine, just to name two) so I'm sure they have some pretty hefty clients.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by SharpyDave

That's a tough call, are you saying customers who spend the most at a specific AD should get priority? What would happen if you were #2 on the list then a high roller came in a year later and wanted one thus bumping you down? Northern NJ has some pricey areas and a lot of money (Upper Saddle River, Alpine, just to name two) so I'm sure they have some pretty hefty clients.

I own a business.

I have hundreds of customers that make up 60% of my business. And a dozen or so that make up 40% of my business.

Every one of them is important. And my team knows that a $600 sale is just as important as a $600,000 dollar sale. And that they should all be treated with the utmost of care. The same customer service for all.

But my industry is screaming busy right now. And we can only do so much. Where should I put my focus? The customers that I have grown with and paying my bills for years? Or the customers that buy from us every couple of years?

It’s a tough line. Grateful to be busy. And we are doing our best do everything for everyone. But sometimes tough decisions need to me made.

[remrk]

I tried to get a BLNR there and put my name on the list back in December and was quoted Feb/March and have yet to here back. Luckily for me I went to a different AD, got my BLNR in February and recently picked up my Daytona. No hate towards them though, it is what is.