LN or BLNR?

[BobDyl]

Originally Posted by DayDateDream

Hi BobDyl, when you say more versatile, how do you mean?

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I've had the LN for 10 years now and it basically works ... nearly everywhere and with nearly everything. Shorts & t-shirt to jeans to business casual, and with any type or color of shirt. IMHO, it's too chunky for a finely tailored suit or formal attire. Other than that, it just covers the spectrum from sporty to sophisticated with the polished center links and reflective black bezel.

Lots of BLNR fans on the forum and I think it's a fine watch but some would argue that the splash of blue keeps it slightly less flexible than the LN and total lunatics, not me mind you, argue that it looks like a toy. ;-)

I actually find the whole LN vs BLNR thing a bit ridiculous. I've been wearing GMTs for decades, primarily because I use the second and third timezones constantly for work. GMTs were never Rolex's most popular watches, they always just sat around in the display cases while the subs flew into new owners' hands. But they have always been great and highly functional. So I'm always amazed at how many "discovered" the GMT only when Rolex added a splash of blue to the bezel. It is 99.9% the identical watch to the LN and carrying a big premium, so you'd better like that blue...

But back to my original thought: try it on and see if it's for you...

[DayDateDream]

Originally Posted by BobDyl

I've had the LN for 10 years now and it basically works ... nearly everywhere and with nearly everything. Shorts & t-shirt to jeans to business casual, and with any type or color of shirt. IMHO, it's too chunky for a finely tailored suit or formal attire. Other than that, it just covers the spectrum from sporty to sophisticated with the polished center links and reflective black bezel, which changes color depending on lighting and environment.



Lots of BLNR fans on the forum and I think it's a fine watch but some would argue that the splash of blue keeps it slightly less flexible than the LN and total lunatics, not me mind you, argue that it looks like a toy. ;-)



I actually find the whole LN vs BLNR thing a bit ridiculous. I've been wearing GMTs for decades, primarily because I use the second and third timezones constantly for work. GMTs were never Rolex's most popular watches, they always just sat around in the display cases while the subs flew into new owners' hands. But they have always been great and highly functional. So I'm always amazed at how many "discovered" the GMT only when Rolex added a splash of blue to the bezel. It is 99.9% the identical watch to the LN and carrying a big premium, so you'd better like that blue...

Thanks for the history and insight, much appreciated. I now understand what you mean by versatile. As well as the fickle nature of the consumer bandwagon. I’ve never liked the Daytona or Sub, and doubt I’d buy one. I personally don’t dive nor have need of a tach, but I do find the GMT really useful.

Makes me wonder which model will be the next craze though...


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[BobDyl]

Originally Posted by DayDateDream

Thanks for the history and insight, much appreciated. I now understand what you mean by versatile. As well as the fickle nature of the consumer bandwagon. I’ve never liked the Daytona or Sub, and doubt I’d buy one. I personally don’t dive nor have need of a tach, but I do find the GMT really useful.

Makes me wonder which model will be the next craze though...


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My pleasure. You really can't go wrong, it's a first world problem! There's an old saying on the forum about getting the watch that "sings" to you. I have to say that this is true in my experience, and it's hard to predict exactly what will sing on the wrist...

[Likestheshiny]

Try on the LN in case you haven't already, just in case it sings to you. But if it doesn't, then hold out for the watch you really want. Either put yourself on the waitlist at another AD that will eventually sell you the watch, or just cough up the extra money for a grey-market watch that will be in your hands tomorrow.

[uniqueMR]

Buy what you want. With Rolex SS you would need patience. And patience always pays off :)

[ksoazn]

BLNR if you can find/afford it
LN isn't that bad either

[horonet17]

I'd pick up the LN. Love the touches of green, shame the watch is overlooked for the BLNR hype.

[lamnyc]

I prefer the LN but you should get the watch you want. However, you should see it in person first before deciding.

[CoveWatch]

I agree that you should go try on the LN first, if you haven’t yet, incase it unexpectedly impresses you.... and if not then you have your decision

[HL65]

Blnr

[Brainh18]

Get the one you want that speaks to you. I had and LN and wasn't happy til I traded up to the BLNR. I added a Sub and now I'm set. I'd love a few more, but the checkbook won't allow it currently.

[Roger Lococco]

BLNR


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[JRT]

BLNR for sure.

[zion_rasta]

You may never see a BLNR out in the wild. I have seen two since it was released. LA and Paris.

I have the LN, bought it before the super hero craziness.

If you buy the LN, you’d never need a Sub.

To me, the LN is the silent collector’s watch that will explode in value in 20 years.

Remember the “red” font Sub?

BTW, the LN is now more rare than the Batman...

[BLNR Nairobi]

Originally Posted by zion_rasta

You may never see a BLNR out in the wild. I have seen two since it was released. LA and Paris.

I have the LN, bought it before the super hero craziness.

If you buy the LN, you’d never need a Sub.

To me, the LN is the silent collector’s watch that will explode in value in 20 years.

Remember the “red” font Sub?

BTW, the LN is now more rare than the Batman...

You say (i) one may never see a BLNR out in the wild, but then say (ii) the LN is now more rare than the BLNR.

Although the more important question would be on (ii) ...how would you know that? I don’t think any of us has access to Rolex’s inventory flow, and thus it would be really difficult to believe any firm number on that.

Secondly, all the ADs I’ve talked to from London to Paris to Johannesburg (I do global PE and travel a lot) have wait lists for the BLNR that are substantially longer than those of the LN. In places like London, it is years longer. In one of the three ADs I visited a couple months ago, the sales lady (who was ironically wearing a GMT II LN) told me the waitlist for the BLNR was not only closed, but was up to ten years deep based on the people in the list (and she wasn’t trying to blow me off from asking to be on the list since we were discussing the BLNR I was wearing).

Maybe you base your assertion on the number of BLNR incomings on TRF versus the incomings of LNs?

If so, that would be skewed since people will tend to report when they get something of note, and thus incomings will tend to be for certain watches.

For example, based on the last month’s incomings from the UK of the Stainless Steel BLRO, one can claim that a Date Just is (significantly) rarer than a Pepsi SS. After all, we literally haven’t seen more than one or so DJ incomings from the UK, but have been inundated with a bunch of Pepsi SS incomings from Blighty and it’s surrounds...

Anyway, I’m curious as to why you think the LN is rarer than the BLNR.

[037]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

Anyway, I’m curious as to why you think the LN is rarer than the BLNR.

I'm not the one you asked but have pondered this myself. BLNRs are currently in higher demand and don't sit around long before selling. LNs very well could be made in lower numbers now and sit around due to lower demand, making them appear more plentiful.

The only way I've found to even remotely justify this is looking at the second-hand market. There are far more BLNRs available if one factors the time span of production for each.

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/ref-116710ln.htm LN / 11 years / 354 available (many of which are frankenwatches)

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/ref-116710blnr.htm BLNR / 5 years / 278 available

That's about a 2:1 ratio of BLNRs available if considering production years. If the BLNR was produced annually in equal or lower numbers to the LN, one would think the secondhand market would reflect it. Even here on TRF there are a ton of BLNRs available in comparison.

Rolex very well might be cranking out more BLNRs than LNs even though we want to think otherwise. Problem is, we don't know either way.

[BLNR Nairobi]

Originally Posted by 037

I'm not the one you asked but have pondered this myself. BLNRs are currently in higher demand and don't sit around long before selling. LNs very well could be made in lower numbers now and sit around due to lower demand, making them appear more plentiful.

The only way I've found to even remotely justify this is looking at the second-hand market. There are far more BLNRs available if one factors the time span of production for each.

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/ref-116710ln.htm LN / 11 years / 354 available (many of which are frankenwatches)

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/ref-116710blnr.htm BLNR / 5 years / 278 available

That's about a 2:1 ratio of BLNRs available if considering production years. If the BLNR was produced annually in equal or lower numbers to the LN, one would think the secondhand market would reflect it. Even here on TRF there are a ton of BLNRs available in comparison.

Rolex very well might be cranking out more BLNRs than LNs even though we want to think otherwise. Problem is, we don't know either way.

I like your logic, particularly because without information from Rolex that is what we are left with ...the use of logic.

I do think however that it may not necessarily show the real state of play on the ground. The BLNR has been out for 5 years, and there are 278 of them for sale.

However, the BLRO 126710 (the stainless steel Pepsi) has been out basically ONE MONTH, and there are 88 of them for sale! A calculation of number of watches for sale/number of years (in this case, months) of production, would indicate the Pepsi SS is the most produced watch in Rolex’s inventory.

Which we know it’s not.

https://www.chrono24.com/search/inde...goal_suggest=1
Pepsi SS / 0.083 years / 88 available

[037]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

However, the BLRO 126710 (the stainless steel Pepsi) has been out basically ONE MONTH, and there are 88 of them for sale! A calculation of number of watches for sale/number of years (in this case, months) of production, would indicate the Pepsi SS is the most produced watch in Rolex’s inventory.

Which we know it’s not.

Agreed. The variable in this case would be the astronomical premium sellers are getting for the BLRO. If either the LN or BLNR were selling for double MSRP, their numbers would be equally skewed. At least with both of these having been out for 5 and 11 years, we can assume more stability and draw a better assumption (although it's still an assumption). The BLRO is currently quite unstable in the market and too new to have a long-term view.

The other variable to my post above is that more LN owners could be holding onto their watches and enjoying them while more BLNR owners are letting theirs go either for a quick profit, getting tired of the color, or something else coming along and it being an easy watch to sell. But, all of that is more on the emotional side of things. Hard numbers leave less room for speculation.

But, it's still anyone's guess.

[harshad4005]

Wait for the BLNR


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[Nycturbovr6]

I wòuld hold out

[eonflux]

I have an LN (purchased more than 10 years ago).
Prefer the BLNR. Love the blue on the 24-hour hand and bezel.
If you want the BLNR, hold out for it!

[cvera]

I'd just wait

[speedy_master1]

BLNR is a must.

[GMT Aviator]

Tried both. Bought the LN.
You either like the blue or you don’t. The LN for me was the more versatile of the two. Classic black bezel will always go with anything.
Never looked back.

[GSBC]

BLNR - it is a stunning piece. If you settle for the LN, you’ll forever yearn for what could have been.
This watch hobby is not based on “needs”, but “wants”. If you want the BLNR, then don’t ever settle for anything less.

[BadBoyR]

Go for the one you really want. I have both, prefer the LN :)

[Xxmikeyb]

Go and try the LN. I had the same dilemma last year. I always wanted a GMT. I did manage to try on both at different times but the LN sang more and I never regretted not getting the BLNR.

Over a year on and one of my customers has just purchased a BLNR, which again I tried on, this time with both pieces together and I still don't regret buying the LN.

[mattcps]

BLNR you wont regret it, i fell in love with mine as soon as i got it

[Kigan]

116710blnr.

[hai.tranhr]

BLNR is deserved to wait for!!!


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