ADs playing the scarcity game with Tudor???

[GB-man]

Unfortunate you received such poor service tom. You have to have a long buying history of expensive pm to get any pull these days. I choose to play nice and wait for the reversal.

[Justindo]

Next year I predict the Tudor GMT and BB58 will be readily available and 30% off at an AD, just like the rest of the Tudors. I'd wait if I were you.

[tng11]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Unfortunate you received such poor service tom. You have to have a long buying history of expensive pm to get any pull these days. I choose to play nice and wait for the reversal.

Originally Posted by Justindo

Next year I predict the Tudor GMT and BB58 will be readily available and 30% off at an AD, just like the rest of the Tudors. I'd wait if I were you.

Yep, if I decide I want a 58 I'll wait for a while. No rush at all. Just thought I'd give it a try - even if it was available yesterday I wouldn't have pulled the trigger. But the attitude I got from that AD definitely ensured I won't be buying from them again!

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Tom, I think the BB58 might be too big for your wrist based on the pic. It's ok to move on.

It's a camera angles issue!

[Ian Macdermott]

Originally Posted by Seibei

I find this funny. I think ADs are just playing a game and it is up to you whether you want to play along or not. I might feel inclined to counter and say that I will take one now if the give me a 20% discount. Otherwise I will spend my money on something else. I wonder what the response would be? "We have one, but you can only have a 10% discount, Sir..."
(I am of course not interested in any Tudor)

Bit too common for you are they

[rolexBuddy]

Originally Posted by Ian Macdermott

Bit too commoner for you are they

Fixed it for you

[05carbondrz]

Originally Posted by Art 1

No this does not surprise me at all, I will never give a down payment to hold a watch. I wonder who the AD was. My wife bought a watch in Waterloo yesteday, is well established and always pays with a money order. I suggested she use a cc for the points. The AD had a fit. Told her it cost them 3%. Even as she was leaving they told her they did her a favor letting her use s cc. The table is going to turn on these AD's and I'm going to laugh.

Now most Businesses want to put the cost of doing Business onto the Buyer,I’m not covering your CC fees.

[tng11]

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Now most Businesses want to put the cost of doing Business onto the Buyer,I’m not covering your CC fees.

Very short sighted thinking, much like the businesses who complain about AMEX fees. Credit cards make it easy to impulse buy and spend extra - if everyone had to hit an ATM or go to a branch to get cash, they might change their mind in the interim and they lose the sale completely.

Especially in a case like Art 1's wife - the banks are closed on Sunday, how am I going to get enough cash or a money order for a Rolex purchase? By Monday, my desire to purchase may already have disappeared, so they kiss the entire sale goodbye.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Now most Businesses want to put the cost of doing Business onto the Buyer,I’m not covering your CC fees.

Plenty of evidence to refute it costs businesses a cent. People spend more money with a cc than they would with cash so the 3% fee is less than the added sales CC generate for the business. It’s way easier to overspend with a CC than putting down a wad of cash


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[DP63]

None refundable

[2nastie]

In Vancouver, I was told there wasn't a waitlist, they've gotten about 20-25 in already. 5 per batch. They've also requested 100% deposit with 2-4 weeks wait and pick up time.

I won't say they are scarce at all. Within a few more months these will be sitting on the shelf (here at least). I think there will be more than enough inventory coming soon. They are trying to latch onto the hot market. Marketing is half the battle and if the ADs here truly want to turn a Tutor into that kind of watch they have to brush up on their storefront appearance first.

It's a nice watch, but I think it falls under the hype category right now.

[jh225]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Since my AD closed his doors, I'm not able to play these games.
.

Exactly why I won't put a deposit on any watch, period.

Doors get shuttered all the time, big shops and small. Your money is as good as gone when it happens.

[jh225]

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Now most Businesses want to put the cost of doing Business onto the Buyer,I’m not covering your CC fees.

Originally Posted by tng11

Very short sighted thinking, much like the businesses who complain about AMEX fees. Credit cards make it easy to impulse buy and spend extra -.

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Plenty of evidence to refute it costs businesses a cent. People spend more money with a cc than they would with cash so the 3% fee is less than the added sales CC generate for the business. It’s way easier to overspend with a CC than putting down a wad of cash

Funniest part is that in todays world of Rolex et all, AD's are getting full retail, no questions asked, zero percent chance of discount. That translates to a 40%+ profit for the AD, yet they bitch about losing 4% of that to Amex.

Hey stupid AD, if we were a couple years ago, you would have given a 10% discount AND allowed any CC the customer wanted. So quit your bitchin'.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by jh225

Exactly why I won't put a deposit on any watch, period.

Doors get shuttered all the time, big shops and small. Your money is as good as gone when it happens.

Good point, but my AD was no fly-by-night.

Although the announcement was sudden, it was sixty days or more before he closed and he also gave me a very nice discount on a watch I wanted before the liquidation sale started.

He was a solid citizen and a great businessman and I miss him a lot, as I'm sure many others do.

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[madgpol]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

It was only s matter of time ...
My AD with whom I’ve spent boat loads of money
with treats me like a stranger...

I know how you feel. Still I won't be buying anything else from them so they will never see me again.

[ashbaug2]

Originally Posted by Art 1

No this does not surprise me at all, I will never give a down payment to hold a watch. I wonder who the AD was. My wife bought a watch in Waterloo yesteday, is well established and always pays with a money order. I suggested she use a cc for the points. The AD had a fit. Told her it cost them 3%. Even as she was leaving they told her they did her a favor letting her use s cc. The table is going to turn on these AD's and I'm going to laugh.

ADs that start scoffing at credit cards had better start preparing to close their doors as people move to online retailers or other ADs... We no longer live in a society where people are willing to carry cash, even fewer will spend the time to go get a certified check. Credit cards are easier, safer, and most give points back, so on large purchases like a $10,000+ watch, it makes sense for me.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by ashbaug2

ADs that start scoffing at credit cards had better start preparing to close their doors as people move to online retailers or other ADs... We no longer live in a society where people are willing to carry cash, even fewer will spend the time to go get a certified check. Credit cards are easier, safer, and most give points back, so on large purchases like a $10,000+ watch, it makes sense for me.

the simple fact is also the vast majority of people spending 35k+ which would be PM Rolex and Patek, AP, ALS and others dont deal in cash.

Maybe there is some crossover in the SS Rolex market but anyone who thinks those watch buyers (which are the ones AD's want) deal in cash primarily are wrong.

In europe its much easier to do a bank transfer than the US if you want to use a checking account (cash) without visiting a branch, but with those sums of money it becomes hard as well. With a CC its simple. I did the cash transfer once, never again. I had to call the bank and the process took close to a hour while sitting at the AD to get approvals and overrides to initiate a transfer. I could have used a CC and been done in seconds.