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Old 21 November 2018, 02:50 PM   #31
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What is "real practical" about that watch?
Ok Maestro.

Here goes in loose terms.
It tells the time in an efficient manner.
It's possible to conveniently track elapsed time with the rotating bezel.
Given the above, and in combination with its waterproof qualities makes it a useful dive watch in accordance with old school principals.
The lume enables one to perform the same functions in very low light conditions.
Its size and good design/style enables it to be worn in a number of settings from diving to wearing whilst getting married as it fits under the cuff of a dress shirt adequately.
The Glidelock clasp as it is presented on the DSSD is absolutely unequalled in terms of design, and as a consequence offers the ultimate in convenience.
And to cap it off, the size of the watch offers larger people something that's more in proportion.

More specifically in terms of my previous response.
"Real practical" is simply meant as absolute proof of concept.
Technically the watch is unique.
Any first, second or third year could tell you that.
Especially when one takes into account the original design brief.
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:16 PM   #32
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Fitting thread. Just wrapped a Rolex Deepsea event, sharing a few snapshots from an event book.
That's awesome ! I have to have this brochure
Anyone willing to sell extra copy ? PM me please.
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Old 21 November 2018, 11:21 PM   #33
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That's awesome ! I have to have this brochure
Anyone willing to sell extra copy ? PM me please.
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Old 22 November 2018, 01:45 AM   #34
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Ok Maestro.

Here goes in loose terms.


More specifically in terms of my previous response.
"Real practical" is simply meant as absolute proof of concept.
Technically the watch is unique.
Any first, second or third year could tell you that.
Especially when one takes into account the original design brief.
Proof of what concept? That a case can be created that holds 1000 bar pressure? That "concept" had been proven million times before.

There are millions of useless "unique" things, so this is one more, no big deal. A stunt to impress the sympathetic crowd. Not much wrong with it, but nothing special either.

If you really want something unique, then consider the craft itself. Especially the 1960 one, designed before the computer modeling era.

THAT was a towering achievement. A complex device, doing important job under challenging conditions. Not just sitting there, doing nothing.
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Old 22 November 2018, 02:22 AM   #35
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A fascinating watch.
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Old 22 November 2018, 03:01 AM   #36
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Proof of what concept? That a case can be created that holds 1000 bar pressure? That "concept" had been proven million times before.
The only wristwatch tha has been proveen 12.000 meters in REAL enviroment is the Rolex Deep Sea Challenge.
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Old 22 November 2018, 03:07 AM   #37
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Yes... no one has thought of that stunt, apparently. But people design real equipment, operating at much higher pressures all the time.
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Old 22 November 2018, 10:14 AM   #38
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Proof of what concept? That a case can be created that holds 1000 bar pressure? That "concept" had been proven million times before.

There are millions of useless "unique" things, so this is one more, no big deal. A stunt to impress the sympathetic crowd. Not much wrong with it, but nothing special either.

If you really want something unique, then consider the craft itself. Especially the 1960 one, designed before the computer modeling era.

THAT was a towering achievement. A complex device, doing important job under challenging conditions. Not just sitting there, doing nothing.
Just keep in mind.
The original attempt to get a watch design to withstand the deepest part of the ocean was at the expence of proto types with either one or two failures along the way.

As to your reference to an important job.
I am unaware of any importance attached to the original watch from 1960. It was attached to the outside just like the Deepsea Challenge watch. As far as i am aware it was not even possible to tell the time on the original unlike the Deepsea Challenge which was on a functional arm and absolute proof of concept of the design principals of the scaled down version one can actually purchase.

Also the watch case does not hold the pressure.
It withstands the external pressure.
It is a fundamental and critical difference that your second year will be able to explain to you.
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Old 22 November 2018, 10:18 AM   #39
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Yes... no one has thought of that stunt, apparently. But people design real equipment, operating at much higher pressures all the time.
Not external pressures.
Especially with the objective of keeping a watch movement safe and functioning.
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Old 22 November 2018, 10:25 AM   #40
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It would be strange and unusual, if in 60 years (since 1960), considering all the progress in engineering tools, people were not able to design a better solution. That is given.

But this watch team did not do anything besides just building a pressure vessel. As I mentioned before, today we know how to build them to much higher performance standards.

However, I tip my hat to those engineers, who designed, for instance, the manipulator arm Cameron used. Even though it had some issues (leaking fluid) it indeed represented an incredible engineering achievement - being able to actually perform some useful function in that environment.

Designing such an apparatus is immeasurably more complicated, than just a simple pressure vessel.

When back in 1985 I bought my Sea Dweller I too kept telling people its story. Stories are good, and they sell product. But we should not lose track of realities.
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Old 22 November 2018, 10:34 AM   #41
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What a watch that is.
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