Another nfl woman beater.

[joli160]

Why even bother at all about the NFL, better sports to spent your dollar and not having to deal with these attitudes

[.brian.]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

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I’ve never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from WATCHING OTHERS chase a ball, of any sort, around !

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from tinkering with and driving around a decades old car of any sort!

OR

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from spending thousands of dollars on watches of any sort!

OR

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from posting in threads saying how they have never understood why people like xxx.

The world is made up of lots of different people who enjoy different things.

[dwjez14]

Better sports like ufc !!! That’s my sport. I watch some baseball but I could care less about football. I am from dallas also a strong football city. Sorry I’m advance for any cowboys fans. It’s just luck. Jerry will mess it up somehow

[1William]

Unacceptable behavior but it has legal and financial consequences.

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by .brian.

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from tinkering with and driving around a decades old car of any sort!

OR

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from spending thousands of dollars on watches of any sort!

OR

I've never understood how/why an individual gets pleasure from posting in threads saying how they have never understood why people like xxx.

The world is made up of lots of different people who enjoy different things.

The words “WATCHING OTHERS” were capitalized for a reason .................

[Thug]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Not to mention the fact that athletes have enjoyed a certain level of special treatment where this kind of thing as well as rape allegations and such has been covered up by colleges whenever possible.

This really isn’t specific to athletes. Look at what happened recently with MeToo in Hollywood and other companies. Plenty of high level, successful men have allegations against them and while I haven’t followed every allegation, I’m sure some were covered up due to the power of the individual.

[77T]

Habitual miscreants must be separated from their freedom once guilt is established. This goes for anyone who does such things.

The problem in this case (and other recent cases) is that some NFL owners are less inclined to act aggressively against the guilty ones as forcefully as the actions warrant.

Last thought, some situations defy solutions when the victim later withdraws a complaint for various reasons. Ray Rice as an example.


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[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by Thug

This really isn’t specific to athletes. Look at what happened recently with MeToo in Hollywood and other companies. Plenty of high level, successful men have allegations against them and while I haven’t followed every allegation, I’m sure some were covered up due to the power of the individual.

Well, I can't remember the last time I saw a Hollywood or any other exec beat a woman in public. Not saying that there are some very bad guys out there, especially at high levels but the NFL has a chronic problem with violence against women. As long as a team is winning, it's almost as if it goes excused.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Well, I can't remember the last time I saw a Hollywood or any other exec beat a woman in public. Not saying that there are some very bad guys out there, especially at high levels but the NFL has a chronic problem with violence against women. As long as a team is winning, it's almost as if it goes excused.

Ed: You are spot on with the nfl right now. They have a problem with domestic violence. And they need to fix it. Immediately.

This team is winning a lot of football games right now. And this guy was a big part of the reason why. And they gave him his walking papers.

Now, from what I read thus far, there was a police/nfl investigation and no charges were filed. How, if they had this video, I am not sure. The team spoke to the player about the accusations and gave his side of the story. (Whatever that was). The team believed him and there were no charges so they let him continue to be employed.

The video then becomes public and they immediately react and say that the player was not truthful and that he was released.

Short of the fact that one could say “they probably had the video before and are just doing this now because it became public” I don’t see what more the Chiefs could have done.

Now I will say, I have not seen the video and have heard the arguments both ways. I need to find the video clip and form my own opinion. But will have to say with 99.9% certainty, the people that have argued “she was harassing him and had it coming” probably won’t like my opinion.


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[pickettt]

“There’s a reason to kick an old man down a flight of stairs......you just don’t do it.”

[Cru Jones]

Despite the habit of some people to criticize all things NFL following the kneeling protest/controversy, violence against women is not an “NFL thing”. Rather, it is, unfortunately, very, very common throughout the world (1 in 3 women have suffered from physical or sexual violence during a lifetime - http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sh...-against-women).

Referring to those statistics, and based on what’s been made public, the NFL population would seem to have a much lower rate of violence against women compared to average.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Despite the habit of some people to criticize all things NFL following the kneeling protest/controversy, violence against women is not an “NFL thing”. Rather, it is, unfortunately, very, very common throughout the world (1 in 3 women have suffered from physical or sexual violence during a lifetime - http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sh...-against-women).

Referring to those statistics, and based on what’s been made public, the NFL population would seem to have a much lower rate of violence against women compared to average.

Compared to other professional sports, NFL is high.
Regardless, the threshold for tolerance should be zero and not a “lower rate than”.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Compared to other professional sports, NFL is high.
Regardless, the threshold for tolerance should be zero and not a “lower rate than”.

100% agreed.

[Headshrinker]

Most of this type of behavior can be attributed to entitlement. Athletes, actors, and leaders of industries (later in life) are often put on a pedestal early in their lives for their talents or leadership abilities. Few if any of those around these individuals try to buffer or curtail their behaviors to preserve their own secondary status as a friend or benefactor. The entitled individual’s perception of their own worth and power can blur the boundaries of right and wrong. Money often becomes a factor as well; companies and lawyers protecting their own success.

[Beo3]

National FELON League.
Goodell turns a blind eye to all of the miscreants within the league.
I have not watched in two years, and never will again watch US professional football.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by bdex75

Ed: You are spot on with the nfl right now. They have a problem with domestic violence. And they need to fix it. Immediately.

This team is winning a lot of football games right now. And this guy was a big part of the reason why. And they gave him his walking papers.

Now, from what I read thus far, there was a police/nfl investigation and no charges were filed. How, if they had this video, I am not sure. The team spoke to the player about the accusations and gave his side of the story. (Whatever that was). The team believed him and there were no charges so they let him continue to be employed.

The video then becomes public and they immediately react and say that the player was not truthful and that he was released.

Short of the fact that one could say “they probably had the video before and are just doing this now because it became public” I don’t see what more the Chiefs could have done.

Now I will say, I have not seen the video and have heard the arguments both ways. I need to find the video clip and form my own opinion. But will have to say with 99.9% certainty, the people that have argued “she was harassing him and had it coming” probably won’t like my opinion.


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I saw the video. He was restrained several times by his people. She kept after him, but he struggled free of his people to get to her. It looked like uncontrollable rage to me. They type of rage that will happen again and again.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I saw the video. He was restrained several times by his people. She kept after him, but he struggled free of his people to get to her. It looked like uncontrollable rage to me. They type of rage that will happen again and again.

Agree now that I have watched the video. I don’t care what that girl said to him or any other man in that situation. He needs to walk away. No excuse for that. Ever.

And the TMZ article said that the gal begged the cops to watch the video and that she wanted to press charges. But they were not able to because they would need a warrant to demand the video footage.

Hopefully justice is served here.




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[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by bdex75

Agree now that I have watched the video. I don’t care what that girl said to him or any other man in that situation. He needs to walk away. No excuse for that. Ever.

And the TMZ article said that the gal begged the cops to watch the video and that she wanted to press charges. But they were not able to because they would need a warrant to demand the video footage.

Hopefully justice is served here.




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I think some outrage needs to be directed towards the police and prosecution.

In Ohio, this is an assault. Slam dunk case. Even if the police didn't get the video because of the inconvenience of a "warrant", which sounds more like fear of papercuts to me, the prosecutor saw the video and STILL didn't file charges.

Why?

This question absolutely needs an answer, perhaps more so than why didn't the NFL or Chiefs do more sooner...It's one of the reasons the police and prosecution exist is to deal with stuff like this, unless they want to grant the NFL legal power to to their jobs...I know that sounds ridiculous, but if cops don't do anything now the league has too. At least give them some teeth..

Again I was the victim of something similar to this (battery caught on video) and it had a totally different legal outcome for the perp.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

I think some outrage needs to be directed towards the police and prosecution.



In Ohio, this is an assault. Slam dunk case. Even if the police didn't get the video because of the inconvenience of a "warrant", which sounds more like fear of papercuts to me, the prosecutor saw the video and STILL didn't press charges.



Why?



This question needs an answer.

Agree completely. I have no idea how you can watch that and not bring charges. Just mind blowing.


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[Thug]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Well, I can't remember the last time I saw a Hollywood or any other exec beat a woman in public. Not saying that there are some very bad guys out there, especially at high levels but the NFL has a chronic problem with violence against women. As long as a team is winning, it's almost as if it goes excused.

You can easily google domestic abuse and Hollywood and get results of celeb cases of violence, only difference to here is no video.

Corporate execs are a bit harder since most are more lowkey and the average person wouldn’t care as much. FWIW current potus has multiple sexual misconduct allegations but a good chunk of the country seem to turn the other way on that

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by Thug

You can easily google domestic abuse and Hollywood and get results of celeb cases of violence, only difference to here is no video.



Corporate execs are a bit harder since most are more lowkey and the average person wouldn’t care as much. FWIW current potus has multiple sexual misconduct allegations but a good chunk of the country seem to turn the other way on that

I think there is a big difference between violence on women by - in this case - professional athletes that is documented and proven through video and allegations. Since there is evidence in this case, there are opinions, many of which including mine is to ban this guy from the NFL for good. This making an example to hopefully deter future violence. I personally am not going to let this guy off the hook because other bad people don’t get caught.

Also as an FYI, there is no place for politics on this forum. It’s a quick way to get banned. Let’s stay on point.



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[SDRider]

Originally Posted by s2h904

I am on the outside looking in but I feel that sometimes football players have a hard time turning off the switch from on to off field behavior.

Another part of me believes it has something to do with concussions etc....I am no expert, just my two cents.

Either way like yourself I do not condone this

I’m not an nfl player but I’ve never hit a woman in my life. That’s how I was brought up.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

Wonder if any of the players are willing to kneel in protest of the way some of their union brothers treat women?

+1. But let's not hold our breath, it's not the "cool" thing to do these days.


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[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by V25V

+1. But let's not hold our breath, it's not the "cool" thing to do these days.


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That would mean they would turn on one of their teammates. God forbid that should ever happen.


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