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Old 22 December 2018, 11:43 PM   #31
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Since 2001 when I got my first Rolex,the ss sports has always been scarce.In all this time the amount of times I have seen a ss Sub in an ADs display may be three times,at most.

They have always been popular and scarce.
Correct. I was looking for a 16610 at the same time and they were unobtainium then.
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:45 PM   #32
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Correct. I was looking for a 16610 at the same time and they were unobtainium then.
The more things chance ,the more they stay the same
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:46 PM   #33
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Since 2001 when I got my first Rolex,the ss sports has always been scarce.In all this time the amount of times I have seen a ss Sub in an ADs display may be three times,at most.

They have always been popular and scarce.
not in the US. Im sure every country has its own definition of scarcity but the US which is what everyone generally assumes as the default country of reference, i have never ever had any trouble seeing/buying whatever i wanted to minus a daytona until recently. Saw a sub last week in fact in Texas during the "shortage".
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:48 PM   #34
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The more things chance ,the more they stay the same
Patience is the key. Patience and refusing to pay silly money.

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Old 22 December 2018, 11:48 PM   #35
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not in the US. Im sure every country has its own definition of scarcity but the US which is what everyone generally assumes as the default country of reference, i have never ever had any trouble seeing/buying whatever i wanted to minus a daytona until recently
Huge market,many ADs in the USA.
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:49 PM   #36
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I do have to add if you're a good customer then there is no shortage, but just a slight delay.
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:50 PM   #37
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Huge market,many ADs in the USA.
agreed. Just saying people might assume you are referring to that market as scarce since 2001. RSA? south africa? No idea as to there, but i don't doubt your comment.
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:55 PM   #38
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agreed. Just saying people might assume you are referring to that market as scarce since 2001. RSA? south africa? No idea as to there, but i don't doubt your comment.
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:58 PM   #39
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Old 22 December 2018, 11:59 PM   #40
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at least 2 years
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Old 23 December 2018, 03:11 AM   #41
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I recall things started in the UK with the Brexit vote in June 2016.

The Pound (GBP) fell sharply and within a short space of time people from overseas were coming over and buying everything Rolex......particularly steel sports because the exchange rate gave them about 20% off RRP.

To give an example of what was happening then, I witnessed overseas buyers (many Asian) having to be given tickets with an allocated time slot to buy from the Louis Vuitton franchise in Manchester Selfridges as they were completely overrun.
We were buying Prada stuff for the Mrs and the sales staff said it was bonkers. Foreign buyers picking up armfulls of handbags.

Somehow (I assume various corners of the web got hold of the fact that people were buying Rolex watches and flipping them at a profit) and it seemed to spread globally during 2017.

This produced a self-fulfilling prophecy and pushed up demand, thus the UK shortage became a global situation. And here we are now, with many people across the world just trying to get hold of steel Rolex to flip at a profit. People in every corner of the planet can go online and look at Rolex prices (RRP and grey) and decide its a very easy way to legally make a quick buck.

They then come on here and start threads about price increases. A certain amount of pump and dump feeding the fire.

That's how it looked from my (UK) point of view.
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Old 23 December 2018, 03:13 AM   #42
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I know stainless Daytona’s have been hard to get for a very long time so that was not surprising to me. Being a new member and I was really out of the Rolex scene for years happy with the pieces I owned I had not even looked at Rolex for about a year or so. Coming back into the Scene 2 months ago I had no clue about how things had changed. Who would have thought that I would come back onto the scene and it would be hard to find something simple as a submariner black. I’m just curious how long has this stainless steel issue with Rolex been going on ? 6 months , 2 years ??
I think that it has been going on since the big tudor launch...
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Old 23 December 2018, 07:04 AM   #43
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Just wanted to contribute some actual data to this thread. I bought my BLNR in the San Francisco Bay Area last year (2017) in June. At the time, I went to three different ADs, and each one had a BLNR sitting in the case. The one I bought eventually came out the back with a coffin, with the AD telling me they had 3-4 BLNRs in stock in total. During my survey, each of the places also had basically every SS model on display, besides obviously a Daytona. About 2 months later I was seeing post from people in the Bay Area lamenting inability to find more basic models like a no-date/date black sub.
edit: also, at the time this was my first purchase from all the ADs, and all of them were trying pretty hard to get my business - it seems like business wasn't so good back then.
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Old 23 December 2018, 08:54 AM   #44
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Plus TRF adds to the fuel of shortage too I think.
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Old 23 December 2018, 09:13 AM   #45
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I do have to add if you're a good customer then there is no shortage, but just a slight delay.

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Old 23 December 2018, 09:53 AM   #46
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Ads around me sold out of Subs and most all SS sports by Dec.'17

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