New AP watches - My take

[Rolexavidfan]

Gerald Genta and the Royal Oak will always be unsurpassable!

The new PC though deserves a nod. However I’m concerned on the desirability of such model in the long term.

The new Chronograph with its new movement deserves a big applause. The only reservation I have is in the dial especially the different size of the subdials similar to the recent previous ROC version.

Will pass my final judgment to seek this watch until I see them in person.

Thanks OP for starting this post.


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[watchfan0529]

AP is getting grilled on social media for this watch. IMHO case design is good, new in-house movement is a good move. But man, those dials need a bit more creativity (except for the PC version)..

[Michigan_State]

Lange and Patek are high-fiving each other... Seriously though, they are probably contempt, as long as one scores (perpetual).

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by Michigan_State

Lange and Patek are high-fiving each other... Seriously though, they are probably contempt, as long as one scores (perpetual).

Good thing your alive

[Burlington]

QP dial is amazing ! The movements all look excellent too visually, as expected.

The watch looks better in the videos than in photos, so I think it does need to be tried on.

[denmanproject]

Hard pass for me

[Roger Lococco]

These watches are monstrosities. Really disappointing.

[Sho-nuff]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

My rating:
Movement = B+

Out of interest, why do you rate the movement B+. and which of the new calibres were you referring to?

[RolexZen]

Originally Posted by Sho-nuff

Out of interest, why do you rate the movement B+.

Yep, wondering that, too.

[AK797]

Is this going to take the money going to Lange and PP dress... and there's not that much money there to begin with? I think they should have gone for SS with limited production and a low price for the three hander and try to ride this out like the PP 5522. Surprised AP haven't done this and trickled them out, instead of announcing this as a huge new line to rival the RO/ROO and biggest thing they've done in 40 years etc, the exclusivity/hype angle has been lost, leaving them just with these tangible and rather sedate designs.

[Vaxe]

I feel the same way, great lugs but not sure about durability if it’s only anchored on the sapphire side. Dial is terrible and looks fake. Anyone know if this new chrono movement will go in the ROO?

Originally Posted by bearxj86

My rating:
Case height = A
Case flanks = A+
Crystal = B+
Movement = B+
Dial = D-
Case size = C

However and unfortunately, dial is pretty important. Would have loved no-date, perhaps brueget numerals versus the panerai like enlarged 12, 3 , 6, 9. Perhaps it will grow on me.

My favorite is the simple 3 hander white dial rose gold.

[soundserious]

These will sell at a staggering discount on the secondary market. They basically made the exact watch that nobody wants anymore. The casual buyer has a plethora of options in this style that look so much better. Lange? JLC? Longines even.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by HK Islandboy

Horrid series name and completely unappealing dial design

Agreed completely idiotic name. Other than the lugs there and the fact that they made an in house chrono there’s little to like for me.

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Thanks for the link. The quality, engineering and thought of the details are definitely put into this new line. However, the design is where it seems to fail. It seems that most others feel the same way. It's kinda funny that the CEO in the Hodinkee video is wearing a ROO and not one of the new models?


I'm a newbie to AP, and I have only recently started looking at and considering one. I love the Offshore line and I think I'm going to stick with one of those.

I noticed that lol even FHB doesn’t like it enough to wear it.


Another thing I’m not fond if it the all dial no bezel look ala IWC port. I just don’t like the aesthetic. The idea of picking up one of these over virtually anything from Patek, Lange, VC is a good joke. I’d say the best comp might be the Gronefeld 1941 in terms of being a modern dress piece with interesting lugs. Take note of how it’s done AP.

[HK Islandboy]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Agreed completely idiotic name. Other than the lugs there and the fact that they made an in house chrono there’s little to like for me.



I noticed that lol even FHB doesn’t like it enough to wear it.


Another thing I’m not fond if it the all dial no bezel look ala IWC port. I just don’t like the aesthetic. The idea of picking up one of these over virtually anything from Patek, Lange, VC is a good joke. I’d say the best comp might be the Gronefeld 1941 in terms of being a modern dress piece with interesting lugs. Take note of how it’s done AP.

Indeed.

If this was made by anyone other than AP, I’m quite sure it would not have attracted three pages of comments.

Personally, were it not AP, I wouldn’t have given it a second’s consideration before dismissing the entire line and never thinking of it again.

[watchfan0529]

Originally Posted by soundserious

These will sell at a staggering discount on the secondary market. They basically made the exact watch that nobody wants anymore. The casual buyer has a plethora of options in this style that look so much better. Lange? JLC? Longines even.

Seems only the AP boutiques will sell it for now. So grey's will be limited. In that case AP could get in a pickle, they could stuck with these watches that they couldn't sell to anyone..

[Sonzy]

Originally Posted by soundserious

These will sell at a staggering discount on the secondary market. They basically made the exact watch that nobody wants anymore. The casual buyer has a plethora of options in this style that look so much better. Lange? JLC? Longines even.

I agree

[watchfan0529]

I gave it some time to sink in, slept on it, meditated..yep the code 11.59 still sucks.

Let me try once more..

[BLNR1]

I wonder if a tapiisserie might help the look of this

[P2725TMB]

I noticed that, re FHB not wearing one, which on the face of it is a very odd branding / marketing move.

Re Code 11.59, is there a reason for that name? If not it seems a truly bizarre choice.

[bsh_watch]

While I dont think they are as bad as some people are saying, it seems that from a Holy Trinity member like AP, they should have been able to put some more muscle behind creating a more unique and timeless/longstanding design.

IMHO, the lugs are fantastic! I would love to see that style (the openwork) reflected on more watches. That is the 'pushing forward' that I think AP was going for here, but they missed with a plain and simple dial that offers nothing extra really.

[gtruex]

I really wanted to like these and was eager to see the new line. Unfortunately, my initial feeling is just ... ehh... Maybe seeing in person will be different, maybe they will grow on me? But, they just didn't excite me. I like the JLC Polaris a lot better. Looks somewhat similar to me the way AP did their #'s on the dial.

[Speed]

The descriptions I see in so many places are: "Mall Watch" "Daniel Wellington" etc.

I cannot argue re: dial / hands. Ouch.

I must say I do like the movements, cases, crystal and straps...Hopefully as with Rolex and Date Justs, AP can improve...

The chrono is indeed the best of the bunch. Time only - not so much.

I do worry about 41mm on a round watch like that. My SEIKO Cocktail Time at 40mm feels large for a dress watch.

[CoveWatch]

Originally Posted by Speed

The descriptions I see in so many places are: "Mall Watch" "Daniel Wellington" etc.

I cannot argue re: dial / hands. Ouch.

I must say I do like the movements, cases, crystal and straps...Hopefully as with Rolex and Date Justs, AP can improve...

The chrono is indeed the best of the bunch. Time only - not so much.

I do worry about 41mm on a round watch like that. My SEIKO Cocktail Time at 40mm feels large for a dress watch.

I guess AP spent all that time on these new movements and forgot about the Dial part so they had to outsource and had Daniel Wellington design them

On another note, I dropped off my car for service this morning and got the new Panamera GT as a loaner and noticed this looks familiar minus the date. Awesome car tho

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

I guess AP spent all that time on these new movements and forgot about the Dial part so they had to outsource and had Daniel Wellington design them



On another note, I dropped off my car for service this morning and got the new Panamera GT as a loaner and noticed this looks familiar minus the date. Awesome car tho

Isn’t that the 1159? ;)

[CoveWatch]

Originally Posted by blacke90

Isn’t that the 1159? ;)

AP and Porsche must share the same watch dial designers

[Speed]

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

I guess AP spent all that time on these new movements and forgot about the Dial part so they had to outsource and had Daniel Wellington design them

On another note, I dropped off my car for service this morning and got the new Panamera GT as a loaner and noticed this looks familiar minus the date. Awesome car tho

Love that clock.
- Thankfully no date window.

How do you like the Panamera? Same twin scroll turbo engine as the Audi RS5 if I understand correctly.

[CoveWatch]

Originally Posted by Speed

Love that clock.
- Thankfully no date window.

How do you like the Panamera? Same twin scroll turbo engine as the Audi RS5 if I understand correctly.

My loaner is the base 4 engine and to me feels heavy and I almost want to say slow haha .. car is beautiful though and drives nice otherwise.. can definitely see getting one later but would likely need at least the 4S engine

[Speed]

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

My loaner is the base 4 engine and to me feels heavy and I almost want to say slow haha .. car is beautiful though and drives nice otherwise.. can definitely see getting one later but would likely need at least the 4S engine

So 4S is the twin-scroll turbo?

Well, I have an Audi S4...fast enough for me (now) with the single turbo. Porsche, one day.

[yippie123]

Where's the RD2?

:(

[watchucallit]

Agree.. the dial is a big disappointment