Warning if visting Amsterdam: increased robberies by Rolex gangs ....

[tyler1980]

this thread:

[foxy1moo]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Well that could just mean the police don’t like brown people so suspect them more.

You could also substitute “Moroccan or Antillean” for “black” and Netherlands for the USA or U.K. and say something similar statistically.

And it would still be a simple-minded, gross oversimplification of a rather complex reality.

^this

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Well that could just mean the police don’t like brown people so suspect them more.

You could also substitute “Moroccan or Antillean” for “black” and Netherlands for the USA or U.K. and say something similar statistically.

And it would still be a simple-minded, gross oversimplification of a rather complex reality.

Exactly.

[tudorbaja27]

Any objective data backing this up?

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by tudorbaja27

Any objective data backing this up?

“Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

[hbrolex]

I'm hyper vigilant wearing any of watches around London now. We have a huge issue with moped gangs - sadly I think the same can be said for any of the large European cities.

[SearChart]

Just like any other big city, these things happen and Amsterdam certainly is no exception.

I've walked around Amsterdam midday and midnight numerous times, high and sober wearing luxury watches and never felt unsafe. Not saying it cannot happen to me but generally speaking it is a pretty safe place.

[bazin]

Originally Posted by hbrolex

I'm hyper vigilant wearing any of watches around London now. We have a huge issue with moped gangs - sadly I think the same can be said for any of the large European cities.

Some time ago in an Asian country, after a high increase of violence and robberies with the use of a motorbike or a scooter it was forbidden to have a passenger on the 2 wheeler.....
Robberies declined rapidly immediately........excellent idea/proposal for Amsterdam, London etc.
(BTW:..please do not argue that it is a rascist act against the "poor" ("who only can afford theirselves to drive a 2 wheeler and not a car)........

[tudorbaja27]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Just like any other big city, these things happen and Amsterdam certainly is no exception.

I've walked around Amsterdam midday and midnight numerous times, high and sober wearing luxury watches and never felt unsafe. Not saying it cannot happen to me but generally speaking it is a pretty safe place.

[lig]

The wifey and I really enjoyed Amsterdam. Wandered all over wearing a 116520 without a care. Some of that time was spent post coffee shop enjoyment. Situational awareness rules.

And the source citation from the OP is downright frightening. Straight up ubernationalist (I would use a stronger term but don’t want to get banned) hate site.

[leooooo]

Originally Posted by mulgogy

never even thought of that, always considered my M to be on the discrete side in the DSLR age. but I suppose in a way its easier to spot?

Easy to spot for people in the know i.e. hobbyist and thieves looking for a good profit. Like rolex watches, secondary market values on a Leica hold very well.

[SearChart]

Having clicked on the link and read through the 'facts' I can confirm that this is a extreme right nationalistic / racist website.

IBTL.

[Zakalwe]

Geert, is that you?!

[daveathall]

Best not go to Turkmenistan, they have the most cases of Heart attacks in the world. Geez, is there no where, where we can go and be safe?

[Yoda_Eating_Pizza]

IBTL

Originally Posted by tyler1980

this thread:

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Best not go to Turkmenistan, they have the most cases of Heart attacks in the world. Geez, is there no where, where we can go and be safe?

why in the world are people scared of moped watch thieves?

Vegans.... scare the hell out of me

you can just skip to 3:15 for the good part ... its fake but it fits this exact kind of stereotyping and people believed it.

[HarryLime]

Me and a friend had our temporary apartment rental in Amsterdam (pre-airbnb) robbed back in 2010 (by a white robber, fyi) and we fought them off. This was pre-Rolex days for me, but they did try to get my MacBook and Blackberry. If you want to hear the story and see some NSFW bloody photos...

(seriously, the photos are bloody, so fair warning)

http://www.drivenbyboredom.com/2010/...ssing-toenail/

[tudorbaja27]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Best not go to Turkmenistan, they have the most cases of Heart attacks in the world. Geez, is there no where, where we can go and be safe?

[bazin]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Geert, is that you?!

Zakalwe, did you really post this on the 20th of Febr. 2019...?

......."Your house is only as secure as the weakest entry point and that’s rarely the front door. I don’t have figures but I suspect only a minority of burglaries occur because the front door gets smashed it. To answer the question, most front doors here are wood or uPVC with deadbolts and/or multi-point locking.
My in-laws decided to get metal bars installed inside every entry point to the house (including windows on all floors). They still nearly got burgled by scammers pretending to offer a quote for tree surgery - scammer distracts householder at the front, then gets escorted round the back to “assess the trees” whilst his unseen mates try to get in the house via a side entrance.
Determined thieves will get you one way or another, at least round this way. They’ll scope you and burgle you when you’re on holiday or at work. Or they’ll gain entry like the case atop this thread by menacing the occupants. Fortunately burglaries perpetrated by such determined thieves, as opposed to lazy opportunists, are relatively rare.".........

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by rudolphwolven

Zakalwe, did you really post this on the 20th of Febr. 2019...?

......."Your house is only as secure as the weakest entry point and that’s rarely the front door. I don’t have figures but I suspect only a minority of burglaries occur because the front door gets smashed it. To answer the question, most front doors here are wood or uPVC with deadbolts and/or multi-point locking.
My in-laws decided to get metal bars installed inside every entry point to the house (including windows on all floors). They still nearly got burgled by scammers pretending to offer a quote for tree surgery - scammer distracts householder at the front, then gets escorted round the back to “assess the trees” whilst his unseen mates try to get in the house via a side entrance.
Determined thieves will get you one way or another, at least round this way. They’ll scope you and burgle you when you’re on holiday or at work. Or they’ll gain entry like the case atop this thread by menacing the occupants. Fortunately burglaries perpetrated by such determined thieves, as opposed to lazy opportunists, are relatively rare.".........

It is of course a rhetorical question and the answer is exceedingly obvious, but indeed I did. It’s interesting that your response to my posts was to trawl my post history rather than refute what I said (the Wilders cheap shot aside, that was a crap joke).

I acknowledged in that post that thieves exist. Hardly an Earth-shattering revelation and I’m not sure how you’re linking it to anything that’s been said on this thread.

I suppose I could’ve written that the scammers were white, but why would I? It’d be weird and irrelevant.

[BisonHead]

^^^^^
I can open a Euro lock in around 20-25 seconds being quiet. Probably 10 seconds if i don't mind making a tad of noise. Fitted to most UPVC multi lock doors.

Just point out i am not a Burglar, this is at work, also not as a burglar.

Horrendous locks, Need one with the sacrificial snap point, then your safe as house. In regards lock snapping or bumping. Frighting really.

Back to the post, i think most cities have some problem and you have to be situationally aware.

I was mugged in London many years ago on Shepherds Bush Green very late one night, i made 42 quid out of the incident. Muggers became mugged.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by BisonHead

^^^^^
I can open a Euro lock in around 20-25 seconds being quiet. Probably 10 seconds if i don't mind making a tad of noise. Fitted to most UPVC multi lock doors.

Just point out i am not a Burglar, this is at work, also not as a burglar.

I guess that makes you either a locksmith or the ghost of Harry Houdini

[Terrakot]

Originally Posted by WatchNutcase

Don't let this deter your from wearing your Rolex while on vacation. Ive worn mine all over Europe with no issues, even eastern Europe and never received a second look.

If you're sporting a Rolex you need to be able to defend yourself and if attacked you must fight back, don't just roll on the floor.

Good luck in the night train from Naples to Rome

BTW, "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist" -Charles Baudelaire

[Johny]

Hi

I'm just back from Amsteldam about an hour ago. Just in the door and opened a beer.

The sun was shining and the city was at it's normal usual happy easy going self.

[betterwatchit]

As many people have said, most large cities are very similar, risk wise. A degree of situational awareness and common sense will see you through unscathed. Who goes flashing their watch around in public to attract attention? If so, well, good luck ...

Long sleeves, low profile, no headphones while walking, not gormlessly checking your phone, ‘reading’ oncoming traffic and pedestrians, keeping to the inside of pavements, constantly scanning ... all this will see you fine.

[rolexinfl]

Originally Posted by betterwatchit

As many people have said, most large cities are very similar, risk wise. A degree of situational awareness and common sense will see you through unscathed. Who goes flashing their watch around in public to attract attention? If so, well, good luck ...

Long sleeves, low profile, no headphones while walking, not gormlessly checking your phone, ‘reading’ oncoming traffic and pedestrians, keeping to the inside of pavements, constantly scanning ... all this will see you fine.

I dont think many people with luxury watches who gets robbed go around 'flashing' them (im sure some do).

We all know that even the most basic brushed SS model rolex shines and gleams in the sun on its polished surfaces. You dont need to 'flash' a rolex for a criminal/thief to notice it. They are actively looking for it without the need for it to stick out.

With that said, yes situational awareness is key around the globe.

[Star Ferry]

How many of these [Warning if visiting (insert city)] threads do we need? A Rolex is a universally recognized valuable. Similar to a stack of 100 USD bills, it could attract criminals anywhere in the world.

[FTX I]

I was there with the wife this jan like we do every year and it was great as always. In fact as time goes by you spot less ladies on windows, probably due to the internet, no shady guys selling club drugs on street corners anymore, and that is a shame btw lol. we feel safer there year after year.

[padi56]

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