Uber Rant

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

I fully expected someone to mention the cost difference, but here someone is on a Sunday concerned about their Uber score as a PASSENGER while they wear Rolex and/or Patek on their wrist. Pay the money and spend the time thinking about more pressing or enjoyable things. That's my advice as a passenger on this rant.

Soon you'll have to build a relationship with your Uber driver and be put on a list for rides to the airport. Rolex everything.

its totally reasonable to want to know why when you are doing everything right, and by most accounts here, tipping better.

i think most people want to be well thought of. Plus if your driver thinks you suck before they even pick you up its a self fulfilling prophecy. Your reputation is your reputation on paper and thats their first impression. Its more work to overcome a first impression.

being type A or a perfectionist doesn't stop because its a cheaper car service. I try to do everything the best i can.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

its totally reasonable to want to know why when you are doing everything right, and by most accounts here, tipping better.

i think most people want to be well thought of. Plus if your driver thinks you suck before they even pick you up its a self fulfilling prophecy. Your reputation is your reputation on paper and thats their first impression. Its more work to overcome a first impression.

I agree. You get in the car clean and neat and prompt. Make some nice conversation. I’m sure you are going to a safe location and your sober. Makes no sense to not get a 5. I too would wonder.

[SpeakWithMichael]

Reasonable is subjective, Tyler. I'm going to say this as if you were my friend sitting next to me over a beer. Is it necessary to concern yourself with why you aren't lauded and thrown parades for being perfect to others? I'm a nice person as I too lived on tips when I was going through university and I tip well and never aim to hurt or offend others, but there's people who think I'm not a good person, for whatever f'ed up reason they've convinced themselves of. I don't care. You can't please everyone. Did the driver get you where you needed? Did you feel good about the tip you left? Good. It's done. But if you're going to consider your tip a payment for a score on your reputation, then yes, pay extra to use some other service and don't sweat such possibly negative thoughts going in circles about your self-esteem, their thought process, and why you're lesser than. It's not worth it. It's rather silly. Be grateful for those who matter in your life. Spend this time with them, not with thinking about Uber drivers.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

I fully expected someone to mention the cost difference, but here someone is on a Sunday concerned about their Uber score as a PASSENGER while they wear Rolex and/or Patek on their wrist. Pay the money and spend the time thinking about more pressing or enjoyable things. That's my advice as a passenger on this rant.

Soon you'll have to build a relationship with your Uber driver and be put on a list for rides to the airport. Rolex everything.

For me it’s convenient. This past Wednesday I pushed a button on my phone at 3am and had a driver show up in 5 mins and ran me to the airport. No physical money transaction.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Art 1

For me it’s convenient. This past Wednesday I pushed a button on my phone at 3am and had a driver show up in 5 mins and ran me to the airport. No physical money transaction.

yep. I probably pay the same as if it was a black cab however getting someone to your location almost immediately is the big plus. Not the cost.

If we are talking about 20-30 mile rides to the airport cost is a factor i suppose but i dont use it for that.

[superdog]

I got a project once because of my Uber rating.

I was sharing an Uber to the airport with a potential customer. He talked about the rating. I didn’t even know it existed. When he showed me how to check it, we learned I had a perfect 5.0 rating.

He said he’d never seen that before, and that it confirmed I was a good person. I was awarded the project a few days later.

That was two years ago.

My score has since dropped to a 4.94.

[antbkny]

4.68 for me. I guess I better bring gifts for my drivers from now on! Lol

[Vamp]

I mean I don’t like to brag or anything but.

[SpeakWithMichael]

I completely get it. I've used Uber or Lyft a few times in similar situations. I'm simply saying don't carry around baggage over someone else's opinion of you as a passenger. If you were a driver and did everything right and you got less than stellar reviews, okay, that possibly affects your earnings, but come on... what do you expect with people? People aren't always predictable and logical or even sane. Especially where the OP lives. You hoped for decency and generosity in character in a multi-cultural melting pot such as London? Maybe 50% says you're trying too hard. Maybe they didn't like your choice of fragrance. Maybe they secretly despise you for making them go fetch you at that moment. Maybe they're jealous because you're successful. If a 4 instead of a 5 is all it takes...

[FloridaRolexGuy23]

4.96 - Always give the driver at least a $5 or $10 in cash when I get out. I wanna know who the sucker was that messed up my perfect 5 star score.

[crew]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

I avoid Uber as much as possible. Quality of the drivers has gotten worse, they don't know where they are going half the time. Plus I hate sharing the road with them, they are in many cases terrible drivers. It's like on the job training. They hire anyone with a pulse it seems. Have not tried Lyft. I've deferred to cabs and private car services.

I agree that Uber seems to be getting worse. Lyft is no different and many (most?) drivers do both Uber and Lyft simultaneously.
I ordered an Uber two weeks ago to go from my local airport to my home. The app said they were about 7 minutes away. About 5 minutes later the driver texts me and asks if I have luggage as her trunk is full. Ummm, yeah I’m returning from a trip and I’m at the airport, yes I have luggage. She cancelled the trip and said she wouldn’t charge me. Gee, thanks.
I have a 5.0 rating but probably only about 30 rides. I always tip cash.

[SearChart]

Tyler, you should start running everywhere, saves you money and you won't have to worry about scores and tipping

[Star Ferry]

Some of them may give you a bad rating out of bitterness. An uber driver randomly gave me a 1 or a 2 a few months ago. I had been polite for the whole ride. I never tip and have a 3.91

Also, many uber drivers do not understand they are working as a driver, so they expect you to make conversation with them throughout the ride.

Getting a 4 from an uber driver is pointless. "Work wasn't perfect today" -- said everyone ever. The drivers shouldnt be able to give under a 5 without stating a valid reason.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Some of them may give you a bad rating out of bitterness. An uber driver randomly gave me a 1 or a 2 a few months ago. I had been polite for the whole ride. I never tip and have a 3.91

Also, many uber drivers do not understand they are working as a driver, so they expect you to make conversation with them throughout the ride.

Getting a 4 from an uber driver is pointless. "Work wasn't perfect today" -- said everyone ever. The drivers shouldnt be able to give under a 5 without stating a valid reason.

ouch

lowest score yet.

You can't give negative feedback for a buyer on eBay, which is a bit too far i think, but yes any negative score should have to be justified.

Unless a passenger does something wrong there is no need for a score and for sure not 1-5. Maybe a good or bad rating only with two choices. A bad score needs to be something serious.

If you pay, sit there, and get out you are doing what you as a passenger agreed to do.

[BisonHead]

I don't and won't use Uber.

I really don't care what a taxi driver thinks about me. Normally i do criticize their choice of route mind, nearly every single journey. it drives my wife mad, but its one of my pleasures of being a passenger. Normally costs us more taking my directions, but i do like messing with them. Also we have seen some right out of the way places in the process.

If they are good humored and have not taken me for an unintential tour of the local motorway system, that i haven't inspired.

Then i always tip handsomely, normally to their total surprise. As they think "Not getting a penny out of this miserable human Sat Nav system/knows all the routes plonker in the back"

And i always ask the standard UK passenger to Taxi driver question, "Been busy today/Tonight mate"

[tie219]

I have a 5 but don't have a ton of rides on my account. Friends of mine have said they've been given poor ratings for not having a conversation. Guess it just depends on the driver in most cases. Anything over a 4 rating won't really affect your ability to get rides.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

ouch

lowest score yet.

You can't give negative feedback for a buyer on eBay, which is a bit too far i think, but yes any negative score should have to be justified.

Unless a passenger does something wrong there is no need for a score and for sure not 1-5. Maybe a good or bad rating only with two choices. A bad score needs to be something serious.

If you pay, sit there, and get out you are doing what you as a passenger agreed to do.

Sorry I was tired. I have a 4.91

[Brenngun]

I stopped being concerned about how someone rates me for any reason once I finished school. Even in my earlier career I never responded to evaluations of any kind based on subjective criteria.

[Rootbeer]

Taking your story at face value the only reason I can think that your rating is going down is that you are getting a 3 star rating as drivers that do this won’t be matched with you again. Is it possible your route is uneconomical - i.e a short trip that the driver has likely traveled empty to and from? If it takes 15mins each way to get to you for a $5 ride it doesn’t necessarily matter whether you tip 100% or more. Drivers don’t gain anything from rating people a 4.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by Rootbeer

Taking your story at face value the only reason I can think that your rating is going down is that you are getting a 3 star rating as drivers that do this won’t be matched with you again. Is it possible your route is uneconomical - i.e a short trip that the driver has likely traveled empty to and from? If it takes 15mins each way to get to you for a $5 ride it doesn’t necessarily matter whether you tip 100% or more. Drivers don’t gain anything from rating people a 4.

drivers often like short rides. They pay more per mile and per minute, and they get bonuses for taking on more rides. Uber has worked to incentivize short rides

[GoingPlaces]

Many of these drivers are moonlighting, part-time, or in between jobs. Hardly a serious profession for most Uber drivers. Ratings and tips mean different things to different people. There is no "standard" which to go by.

If the ratings mean that much, start a new account and see what happens.

[sco]

I’m a 5, and I was just jokingly telling my sister she can’t ride with me! Too much risk...



I don’t Uber all the time, but when I do I’m courteous and appreciate the ride. I wouldn’t really sweat it OP, you’ll still get a ride no problem.

[sco]

Originally Posted by BisonHead

I don't and won't use Uber.

I really don't care what a taxi driver thinks about me. Normally i do criticize their choice of route mind, nearly every single journey. it drives my wife mad, but its one of my pleasures of being a passenger. Normally costs us more taking my directions, but i do like messing with them. Also we have seen some right out of the way places in the process.

If they are good humored and have not taken me for an unintential tour of the local motorway system, that i haven't inspired.

Then i always tip handsomely, normally to their total surprise. As they think "Not getting a penny out of this miserable human Sat Nav system/knows all the routes plonker in the back"

And i always ask the standard UK passenger to Taxi driver question, "Been busy today/Tonight mate"

Not sure why you would find it funny slowing someone down whose job relies on available time, for your own pleasure.

[Rootbeer]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

drivers often like short rides. They pay more per mile and per minute, and they get bonuses for taking on more rides. Uber has worked to incentivize short rides

I’m not sure you understood my post - a short ride is uneconomical if the driver has to spend significant time travelling empty and unpaid to get there and back.

[NimbleNavigator]

Why are you guys tipping? Uber already calculates the route and charges based on demand. The entire purpose of Uber is to get away from having to tip, but I see we have come full circle. My rating is 4.8 and I use it all the time and I never tip.

[timedate]

have i read this correctly?

customers are being given scores nowadays?

[BisonHead]

Originally Posted by sco

Not sure why you would find it funny slowing someone down whose job relies on available time, for your own pleasure.

Do you think it may have been a bit tongue in cheek.

I will say that in the UK moving or standing still your getting billed, so makes no difference to the driver. 10 miles with one or 2 miles with 5 its the same, apart form 5 tips of course.

But Brits are not renowned tippers. I do always tip and tip well.Never had a driver complain yet.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by Rootbeer

I’m not sure you understood my post - a short ride is uneconomical if the driver has to spend significant time travelling empty and unpaid to get there and back.

I see that, but it's still better than a long trip + a long dead leg to get back to a population center

they are also able to choose destination zones they are willing to drive to, so they don't end up in a place where there are no riders

[sco]

Originally Posted by BisonHead

Do you think it may have been a bit tongue in cheek.

I will say that in the UK moving or standing still your getting billed, so makes no difference to the driver. 10 miles with one or 2 miles with 5 its the same, apart form 5 tips of course.

But Brits are not renowned tippers. I do always tip and tip well.Never had a driver complain yet.

I must’ve missed the sarcasm.

[teqp]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Who has the lowest score?

4.5 for me (not a huge amount of trips though) so every rating moves the numbers more


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4.5 out of 5 is pretty good. That’s 90%. I would’ve taken that for Calculus II any day.

I’m a 5 on the app. I never knew I was getting scored as well. Thanks for the info.