ss daytona

[charliec]

Originally Posted by bardm

Anyway: I think the Daytona fame is something specific to the US and maybe UK? I Norway many people recognize a Sub or GMT, but wery few realises that a Daytona or a YM is a Rolex.

That's possibly due to the fact that the SS Daytona is incredibly scarce in the Norwegian market? No offence intended.

[Gaffel]

The Daytona is definitely not scarce in the Norwegian market. I could (and did) get my hands on a Daytona from my AD within 8 weeks. The AD at one point told me he had 7(!!) Daytonas in one shipment.
To you Bård... I don´t think fame is the same as recognizability. The daytona is a legendary watch that revolutionized the chronograph movement with its simplistic and sturdy construction and extreme accuracy. Not to forget its smashing looks. It doesn´t look as "Rolexy" as the SUB and the GMT, and therefor is not as recognizable. It´s a watch that whispers to watch enthusiasts, but doesn´t scream out to the general public. GREAT if you ask me.

[bardm]

Originally Posted by charliec

That's possibly due to the fact that the SS Daytona is incredibly scarce in the Norwegian market? No offence intended.

None taken

You may be right, but the SS models are readilly available in the gray market.

My BMW dealer had a Daytona (white gold on a strap). He told me he wanted a "bluesey" sub, but was afraid it would be recognized by customers making them believe he overcharged them. So he purchased a Daytona.

[bardm]

Originally Posted by Gaffel

To you Bård... I don´t think fame is the same as recognizability. The daytona is a legendary watch that revolutionized the chronograph movement with its simplistic and sturdy construction and extreme accuracy. Not to forget its smashing looks. It doesn´t look as "Rolexy" as the SUB and the GMT, and therefor is not as recognizable. It´s a watch that whispers to watch enthusiasts, but doesn´t scream out to the general public. GREAT if you ask me.

I quite agree. Althoug it's not recognized by most Norwegians it is highly respected among WIS in Norway.

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by Gaffel

The Daytona is definitely not scarce in the Norwegian market. I could (and did) get my hands on a Daytona from my AD within 8 weeks. The AD at one point told me he had 7(!!) Daytonas in one shipment.
To you Bård... I don´t think fame is the same as recognizability. The daytona is a legendary watch that revolutionized the chronograph movement with its simplistic and sturdy construction and extreme accuracy. Not to forget its smashing looks. It doesn´t look as "Rolexy" as the SUB and the GMT, and therefor is not as recognizable. It´s a watch that whispers to watch enthusiasts, but doesn´t scream out to the general public. GREAT if you ask me.

i am only referring to the SS daytona. my AD here in Toronto has 12 Daytonas but none of them are SS. if this are SS i think the scarcity mystery in Europe has been solved.

[Gaffel]

I´m of course referring to SS Daytonas, Chenx.

[DanP]

For such an iconic watch I think it could never happen. Btw I just got back from 1 week in shanghai tonight and now tomorrow going to HK , and in shanghai I went to peek a look at every AD I came across probably more than 30 or so. Quite a few had ss daytons available Id say 1/3 or so. Most had gold ones. I wonder what that says about the current state of sales for new ss daytonas in asia?

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by DanP

For such an iconic watch I think it could never happen. Btw I just got back from 1 week in shanghai tonight and now tomorrow going to HK , and in shanghai I went to peek a look at every AD I came across probably more than 30 or so. Quite a few had ss daytons available Id say 1/3 or so. Most had gold ones. I wonder what that says about the current state of sales for new ss daytonas in asia?

are the ss daytona MSRP or do they have a premium?

[charliec]

All this talk of SS Daytona's available at MSRP .............. don't talk about it guys, list the AD with tel number so it can be verified !!! Tired of all the wild statements with no evidence whatsoever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ayeya]

Originally Posted by DanP

For such an iconic watch I think it could never happen. Btw I just got back from 1 week in shanghai tonight and now tomorrow going to HK , and in shanghai I went to peek a look at every AD I came across probably more than 30 or so. Quite a few had ss daytons available Id say 1/3 or so. Most had gold ones. I wonder what that says about the current state of sales for new ss daytonas in asia?

yeah i was in Beijing this past summer and i saw ss daytona in a lot of AD too. but none of them will even sell the watch to me, they claim that the watch is already sold(obviously not if it is sold then why would it still be on display). also, i asked them when will the next one be in stock and they tell me unless i am a VIP(a person who has purchased a Rolex already) i cannot even get on the waitlist. so yeah i do not think daytona is easy to get anywhere in the world without paying a premium

[islandlife]

Saw one in display window in NZ at an AD, white dial, yep is was for sale.

[spogehead]

Originally Posted by charliec

What ????

Sorry to correct you but the most you have to pay for a BNIB now is £6500 MAX!!! I'm truely gutted to report this too. There was and is a BNIB "V" SS Daytona with 78590 for auction at £5750. This was bought a few weeks ago before the price hike. At present this is below RRP.
I sold a BNIB M SS Daytona with 78490 for £6150 after trying for £6500 for over 5 weeks !!

With regards the poll .................IT NEVER LOST ITS ALLURE MY MAN NOR STATUS

Grey dealers I was referring to

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/POAView.aspx?id=38562

http://www.watches.co.uk/watch.php?wid=0900P

[Ranfni]

Originally Posted by boa2

The Daytona still has legendary status. There isn't any less desire to have them, just a lot less cash out there right now.

EXACTLY

[Ranfni]

this post needed one more option to choose...has not lost it's status

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by Ranfni

this post needed one more option to choose...has not lost it's status

i stand semi corrected

[rayt]

Originally Posted by Ranfni

this post needed one more option to choose...has not lost it's status

totally agreed! 10x

[DanP]

Originally Posted by chenx15

are the ss daytona MSRP or do they have a premium?

looked like premium to me. they were about 70,000 rmb for ss. but they had 18% discount

[AstroBoy]

Originally Posted by charliec

All this talk of SS Daytona's available at MSRP .............. don't talk about it guys, list the AD with tel number so it can be verified !!! Tired of all the wild statements with no evidence whatsoever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Charliec - Please read my post on "What should I buy: SS Daytona V.S. SS&YG Daytona" Since the AD owner told me that he had people call him and ask for the SS Daytona and he said "NO".. Here is the AD infos:

AD name: Sheiban Jewelers
16938 Pearl Road
Strongsville, OH 44136
440.238.0616

And I live about 5 minutes away there!

So, What should I buy? SS Daytona for MSRP $9,925 or the SS&YG Daytona for $10,700 (20% off!) ?

[charliec]

Originally Posted by Phthai

Charliec - Please read my post on "What should I buy: SS Daytona V.S. SS&YG Daytona" Since the AD owner told me that he had people call him and ask for the SS Daytona and he said "NO".. Here is the AD infos:

AD name: Sheiban Jewelers
16938 Pearl Road
Strongsville, OH 44136
440.238.0616

And I live about 5 minutes away there!

So, What should I buy? SS Daytona for MSRP $9,925 or the SS&YG Daytona for $10,700 (20% off!) ?

Thats my point exactly. It wasn't even in the case and the AD is only prepared to sell to you and you alone for whatever reason, it really doesn't matter.It was and is not for general consumption.
I was interested in hearing from people who claim that they have seen SS Daytonas in the case for sale at MSRP (not a premium)to any Tom, Dick or Harry as though they are not selling. Your AD won't sell to me as you've stated so it doesn't count does it? Apologies if you were trying to help prove my point as you so graciously have.

[AstroBoy]

CharlieC - Your point is right on! I went to 5 ADs in Cleveland , Ohio USA and none have it in their showcases! But, the one I mentioned above, I asked the sale person, she surely said that she didn't have it, then I ask the AD owner, and he went to the back room and bring it out show it to me! I put them on my wrist! Man...Oh...Man...I'm speechless! Now what? SS Daytona or TT Daytona?

[charliec]

Originally Posted by Phthai

CharlieC - Your point is right on! I went to 5 ADs in Cleveland , Ohio USA and none have it in their showcases! But, the one I mentioned above, I asked the sale person, she surely said that she didn't have it, then I ask the AD owner, and he went to the back room and bring it out show it to me! I put them on my wrist! Man...Oh...Man...I'm speechless! Now what? SS Daytona or TT Daytona?

Were you to buy the TT you WOULD ALWAYS desire a SS Daytona also. C'mon, it's the grail watch my man for numerous people. Were you to buy the SS i guarantee you, the TT won't figure in future plans IMO. In the UK you can buy the TT easily but the SS, forget it buddy!!!!
Buy the SS and wear it with pride and smile at the TT that almost was!!


PS....Should you ever need to re-sell later on down the line for whatever reason I know which watch will hold it's value 100000000000000% better than the other !!

[scooba]

I am waiting for a ss daytona 116520 at list .What i know is this and no bull ----.In my experiance i bought a omega speedmaster in 1989 then i went and px for a 16610 in 1993.Then i px for a 16613 in 1996 i then upgraded again in 2000 to a yachtmaster .Now here is the punch line i then went in same shop i wish to upgrade to a ss daytona basically wasnt interested so i sent a email to head office explaining my exasperation basically same response as the manager in there store .

I thought these watches were for regular customers ,forgot to add my wife had three watches as well from same dealer .Now i phoned again before xmas and was told 7yr wait by a salesgirl .I asked a week ago and was told £1k deposit and they would put me on the list but as they can only have 6 on the list not at present but try again in april WTF

I have asked at other AD and been told no way so all you lucky guys in the US buy them because in the UK the word rocking horse sh-- comes to mind

This is just my experiance and the dealer i mention is Watches of Switzerland Brighton Sussex

[chenx15]

Wow It's that bad in europe except norway. In US there are some sporadic sightings and in asia only for vip clients plus the premium. So all in all everybody's assessment is correct. It never lost it's legendary status. The only rolex without a discount and sometimes even a premium. The only way to get a good price is through trf.

[charliec]

Originally Posted by scooba

I am waiting for a ss daytona 116520 at list .What i know is this and no bull ----.In my experiance i bought a omega speedmaster in 1989 then i went and px for a 16610 in 1993.Then i px for a 16613 in 1996 i then upgraded again in 2000 to a yachtmaster .Now here is the punch line i then went in same shop i wish to upgrade to a ss daytona basically wasnt interested so i sent a email to head office explaining my exasperation basically same response as the manager in there store .

I thought these watches were for regular customers ,forgot to add my wife had three watches as well from same dealer .Now i phoned again before xmas and was told 7yr wait by a salesgirl .I asked a week ago and was told £1k deposit and they would put me on the list but as they can only have 6 on the list not at present but try again in april WTF

I have asked at other AD and been told no way so all you lucky guys in the US buy them because in the UK the word rocking horse sh-- comes to mind

This is just my experiance and the dealer i mention is Watches of Switzerland Brighton Sussex

I know you only want to pay rrp my man but if it means waiting years for it the rrp by then might be £7500+ ? Would you be as well to pay a "small" premium "£6500" now and enjoy the watch as the rrp starts to increase once more.
However said that, as a man of principle I will ONLY pay rrp or less and have been fortunate to have been allocated Milgauss's (2) and SS Daytona (2) by AD's to me within the last year without having to be on a list at all. Good banter and converstaion have done the trick for me IMO.
Would I pay rrp £6170 now ? If i didn't already own one and was desperate...ABSOLUTELY.
However if it meant waiting 3 years would I buy off a GD now for £6500........the principle of it might just get the better of me, so possibly no!!

Tough call my man !!!

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by charliec

I know you only want to pay rrp my man but if it means waiting years for it the rrp by then might be £7500+ ? Would you be as well to pay a "small" premium "£6500" now and enjoy the watch as the rrp starts to increase once more.
However said that, as a man of principle I will ONLY pay rrp or less and have been fortunate to have been allocated Milgauss's (2) and SS Daytona (2) by AD's to me within the last year without having to be on a list at all. Good banter and converstaion have done the trick for me IMO.
Would I pay rrp £6170 now ? If i didn't already own one and was desperate...ABSOLUTELY.
However if it meant waiting 3 years would I buy off a GD now for £6500........the principle of it might just get the better of me, so possibly no!!

Tough call my man !!!

good point. chances are in 5 years it will increase by 50%.

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by chenx15

Wow It's that bad in europe except norway. In US there are some sporadic sightings and in asia only for vip clients plus the premium. So all in all everybody's assessment is correct. It never lost it's legendary status. The only rolex without a discount and sometimes even a premium. The only way to get a good price is through trf.

and through me???

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by bodybump

and through me???

Very true. I have to say yes to that you just over charged you spoiled GiT!

[Trurolexer]

#1
Legend is still Legend...

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by chenx15

Very true. I have to say yes to that you just over charged you spoiled GiT!

hahahahaha i charge reasonable...and very very affordable its the shipping that will cost you money....I think shipping is half the cost of the watch...hahahahaha

[tsthk]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Oh LET IT BE SO!!!!!

Sorry, but I hope they NEVER come out w/ a date Daytona.