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Jonesy2099 · 18 April 2019, 08:54 AM

It’s a bit cheeky, but I’d actually take that deal.

porschejeff · 18 April 2019, 08:56 AM

BS walk, order from Trusted gray dealer.

Rags2Rolex · 18 April 2019, 08:59 AM

Walk & Walk Early! Sounds like someone is trying to Pull a Fast One on you!

THC · 18 April 2019, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shapa

No way. Not for a Sub.

Perfect post

2001jesper · 18 April 2019, 09:00 AM

Walk

FTX I · 18 April 2019, 09:01 AM

If a Speedmaster Professional is an option go ahead and do it.

zengineer · 18 April 2019, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I'm on vacation in Europe, I've been doing my usual visits to AD's along the way. I found a aub date but the AD wont sell unless I buy another piece worth 3-4k, not a Rolex. What's the general consensus with regards to this form of blackmail these days?

Technically, they only want you to buy something worth $2000. They would just like you to pay $4000.

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abozz · 18 April 2019, 09:22 AM

I would buy a Tudor and the SubC

GradyPhilpott · 18 April 2019, 09:36 AM

I think it's a pretty smart move to make a few purchases from an AD in an effort to build a good relationship, but those purchases must be items that I'd buy anyway.

The only concession toward that AD would be to choose to do business with them, rather than with someone else.

If an AD told me that I'd have to buy B in order to get A, I'd walk straight out the door.

brandrea · 18 April 2019, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

No way - wait to get what you want

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Exactly this

blue lion · 18 April 2019, 09:57 AM

Ignore the dealer and move on.

dannyp · 18 April 2019, 10:22 AM

I understand that one must often curry favor with dealers by establishing a purchase history. But this is utterly classless.

Now, on the other hand, what's the current grey market premium on a Sub? Let's say it's $2k; all you then have to do is pick a $4k piece of jewelry you think you can sell for $2.5k and you're ahead...

subprimero · 18 April 2019, 10:25 AM

Keep looking.

calh22a · 18 April 2019, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I got a sub from my local AD in Jan, shes saying I wont get another piece this year!

So you just got a sub in January, but want another one now?

envuks · 18 April 2019, 10:36 AM

Seems crazy. Wouldn't it be far easier and cheaper to buy from a trusted seller on here?

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JePro · 18 April 2019, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phez

Walk away and talk to your local AD.

Mine got me a SS Sub Date in less then 2 months once I expressed an interest.

This

DoctorA · 18 April 2019, 12:33 PM

I wouldn’t buy it there!
Try your luck at other ADs or TSs

Geelerald · 18 April 2019, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I'm on vacation in Europe, I've been doing my usual visits to AD's along the way. I found a aub date but the AD wont sell unless I buy another piece worth 3-4k, not a Rolex. What's the general consensus with regards to this form of blackmail these days?

As a lawyer, it is extortion not blackmail unless he had incriminating pics of you as leverage.

Starwalker · 18 April 2019, 02:11 PM

buy 2 but cut a good deal on the second one

SlideRacker · 18 April 2019, 02:14 PM

Bundle for a DaytonaC? OK. Bundle for a BLRO? Fine. Bundle for a Sub? NFWIH.

Old Expat Beast · 18 April 2019, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I'm on vacation in Europe, I've been doing my usual visits to AD's along the way. I found a aub date but the AD wont sell unless I buy another piece worth 3-4k, not a Rolex. What's the general consensus with regards to this form of blackmail these days?

If a Rolex AD is using Rolex watches to leverage sales of other brands, I think Rolex HQ would be interested to hear about it.

pickettt · 18 April 2019, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geelerald

As a lawyer, it is extortion not blackmail unless he had incriminating pics of you as leverage.

Isn't it neither since no one's is forcing him to do anything?

Nairn1980 · 18 April 2019, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I'm on vacation in Europe, I've been doing my usual visits to AD's along the way. I found a aub date but the AD wont sell unless I buy another piece worth 3-4k, not a Rolex. What's the general consensus with regards to this form of blackmail these days?

If the deal works for you, and there’s anther piece you’re happy to own, fair enough.

Otherwise, walk away.

joli160 · 18 April 2019, 04:09 PM

Buy from trusted sellers and be done with this

BisonHead · 18 April 2019, 04:17 PM

Personally i would walk.

Why be shanghaied by the SA into buying something that you don't want. Its pure madness

Rogdogg · 18 April 2019, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

If a Rolex AD is using Rolex watches to leverage sales of other brands, I think Rolex HQ would be interested to hear about it.

Agreed! I would be writing to the Rolex HQ to let them know about it.
It's time we started to push back against these practices when we can.

Xtralarg · 18 April 2019, 04:40 PM

Thanks for all the responses! I think the general consensus is walk, unless there is another piece that I really want. In answer to that, there are many pieces that I want but buying one if those would probably end up costing the same price as I could go and buy a 2019 2nd hand sub and the same other item new but discounted. I'm talking some Tudor pieces (he doesn't have a bb58 or Tudor gmt) or omega 300m seamaster. If the exchange rate was more favorable then it may be a different story, I remember buying a watch in the late 90's and even after paying import duty it still offered a considerable saving.

Rolex_Bob · 18 April 2019, 06:40 PM

I actually think this is quite common practise......

I've bought a 31mm gold and steel datejust for my wife and a blue dial gold and steel sub for myself in the last 8 months.
I can't even get on the waiting list for a 43mm Red Seadweller.
It was suggested to me that a "nice" jewelry purchase would help get on the waiting list.
I asked how much is nice?
She said I'll get back to you.....
That 2 months ago.

Still waiting.

Xtralarg · 18 April 2019, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolex_Bob

I actually think this is quite common practise......

I've bought a 31mm gold and steel datejust for my wife and a blue dial gold and steel sub for myself in the last 8 months.
I can't even get on the waiting list for a 43mm Red Seadweller.
It was suggested to me that a "nice" jewelry purchase would help get on the waiting list.
I asked how much is nice?
She said I'll get back to you.....
That 2 months ago.

Still waiting.

I think it may be common practice, the difference is that some AD's say it how it is, some may hint and the rest just hope you'll play ball without them having to give you a nudge.

Harry-57 · 18 April 2019, 07:20 PM

If you want both watches, buy them. If you don't, don't. It's a watch, not a dialysis machine.

18 April 2019, 08:56 AM	#32
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,460	BS walk, order from Trusted gray dealer. __________________ Rolex DD 228238 Daytona 116515 (sold) AP 15710 Rolex 116710 BLNR And a few others...

18 April 2019, 09:36 AM	#39
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	I think it's a pretty smart move to make a few purchases from an AD in an effort to build a good relationship, but those purchases must be items that I'd buy anyway. The only concession toward that AD would be to choose to do business with them, rather than with someone else. If an AD told me that I'd have to buy B in order to get A, I'd walk straight out the door. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

18 April 2019, 10:36 AM	#45
envuks 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,741	Seems crazy. Wouldn't it be far easier and cheaper to buy from a trusted seller on here? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

18 April 2019, 12:33 PM	#47
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	I wouldn’t buy it there! Try your luck at other ADs or TSs __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

18 April 2019, 02:11 PM	#49
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	buy 2 but cut a good deal on the second one __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

18 April 2019, 08:54 AM	#31
Jonesy2099 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 388	It’s a bit cheeky, but I’d actually take that deal.

18 April 2019, 08:59 AM	#33
Rags2Rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: West Coast Watch: Sub ND/GMT II SS Posts: 133	Walk & Walk Early! Sounds like someone is trying to Pull a Fast One on you!

18 April 2019, 09:00 AM	#35
2001jesper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Jesper Location: Earth Watch: 116234 Posts: 1,772	Walk

18 April 2019, 09:01 AM	#36
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	If a Speedmaster Professional is an option go ahead and do it.

18 April 2019, 09:22 AM	#38
abozz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In my home. Watch: 116660, 126600 Posts: 2,905	I would buy a Tudor and the SubC

18 April 2019, 09:57 AM	#41
blue lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida State! Watch: It's just a watch. Posts: 1,463	Ignore the dealer and move on.

18 April 2019, 10:22 AM	#42
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	I understand that one must often curry favor with dealers by establishing a purchase history. But this is utterly classless. Now, on the other hand, what's the current grey market premium on a Sub? Let's say it's $2k; all you then have to do is pick a $4k piece of jewelry you think you can sell for $2.5k and you're ahead...

18 April 2019, 10:25 AM	#43
subprimero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: John Location: Texas Watch: 14060 Posts: 3,434	Keep looking.

18 April 2019, 02:14 PM	#50
SlideRacker "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: 116500LN Black Posts: 561	Bundle for a DaytonaC? OK. Bundle for a BLRO? Fine. Bundle for a Sub? NFWIH.

18 April 2019, 04:09 PM	#54
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	Buy from trusted sellers and be done with this __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

18 April 2019, 04:17 PM	#55
BisonHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Watch: Sub,SD,DJ,OP Posts: 1,950	Personally i would walk. Why be shanghaied by the SA into buying something that you don't want. Its pure madness

18 April 2019, 04:40 PM	#57
Xtralarg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: London/Dubai Posts: 713	Thanks for all the responses! I think the general consensus is walk, unless there is another piece that I really want. In answer to that, there are many pieces that I want but buying one if those would probably end up costing the same price as I could go and buy a 2019 2nd hand sub and the same other item new but discounted. I'm talking some Tudor pieces (he doesn't have a bb58 or Tudor gmt) or omega 300m seamaster. If the exchange rate was more favorable then it may be a different story, I remember buying a watch in the late 90's and even after paying import duty it still offered a considerable saving.

18 April 2019, 06:40 PM	#58
Rolex_Bob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Bob Location: Australia Watch: 18k GMT Master II Posts: 222	I actually think this is quite common practise...... I've bought a 31mm gold and steel datejust for my wife and a blue dial gold and steel sub for myself in the last 8 months. I can't even get on the waiting list for a 43mm Red Seadweller. It was suggested to me that a "nice" jewelry purchase would help get on the waiting list. I asked how much is nice? She said I'll get back to you..... That 2 months ago. Still waiting.

18 April 2019, 07:20 PM	#60
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,673	If you want both watches, buy them. If you don't, don't. It's a watch, not a dialysis machine.

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