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Old 8 July 2019, 11:36 AM   #31
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I have a 6.75” wrist and thought the 15400 was a little bulky on my wrist, so I sought out a 15450. A couple of my friends told me beforehand that I wouldn’t like it because the proportions are off. I found an AD with both the silver and grey dial in stock, and well... my friends were right.

It’s a beautiful watch and it probably fits me better than my old 15300 even, but the case proportions just struck me as off balanced. Even though the case fits well, I was struck by the thickness of it and also how small the dial is. The bracelet is also quite... dainty feeling. As much as it pained me to leave the AD empty handed, it just isn’t the watch for me. Perhaps the 38mm chrono will be the perfect fitting AP for me.

So, I don't think the 15450 will be the next big thing because the size is too polarizing. I really think it works best on 6.5" and smaller wrists.




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Old 8 July 2019, 11:51 AM   #32
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I have a 6.75” wrist and thought the 15400 was a little bulky on my wrist, so I sought out a 15450. A couple of my friends told me beforehand that I wouldn’t like it because the proportions are off. I found an AD with both the silver and grey dial in stock, and well... my friends were right.

It’s a beautiful watch and it probably fits me better than my old 15300 even, but the case proportions just struck me as off balanced. Even though the case fits well, I was struck by the thickness of it and also how small the dial is. The bracelet is also quite... dainty feeling. As much as it pained me to leave the AD empty handed, it just isn’t the watch for me. Perhaps the 38mm chrono will be the perfect fitting AP for me.

So, I don't think the 15450 will be the next big thing because the size is too polarizing. I really think it works best on 6.5" and smaller wrists.




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Old 8 July 2019, 12:56 PM   #33
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Honestly i feel that the proportions are way off on the 15450. The dial is also too small for my 6.5" wrist and for that size the thickness is more pronounced. Personal preference I guess.
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Old 8 July 2019, 02:03 PM   #34
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I have a 6.75” wrist and thought the 15400 was a little bulky on my wrist, so I sought out a 15450. A couple of my friends told me beforehand that I wouldn’t like it because the proportions are off. I found an AD with both the silver and grey dial in stock, and well... my friends were right.

It’s a beautiful watch and it probably fits me better than my old 15300 even, but the case proportions just struck me as off balanced. Even though the case fits well, I was struck by the thickness of it and also how small the dial is. The bracelet is also quite... dainty feeling. As much as it pained me to leave the AD empty handed, it just isn’t the watch for me. Perhaps the 38mm chrono will be the perfect fitting AP for me.

So, I don't think the 15450 will be the next big thing because the size is too polarizing. I really think it works best on 6.5" and smaller wrists.




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Is that the 15450? If so, it does look like a pretty good fit. But yes, as you mentioned the thickness is definitely a downside.
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Old 8 July 2019, 02:04 PM   #35
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Yes, that is a problem. Also a problem, seven inch wrist might be the in between size as well. I found my seven inch wrist couldn't accommodate the 15400, not even as a little oversize like my 11 Deepsea at 44 and much thicker.

How about the 38 Chrono coming out?
That is so true... its like a weird no man's land for wrist sizes. I will definitely be trying the 38mm chrono, but my heart is really with the traditional royal oak design. But who knows, seeing it in the metal might change all of that!
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Old 8 July 2019, 02:20 PM   #36
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For those who might be curious, here is the fit of the 15300 vs the 15450 on a 6.25” wrist (notice the lug overhang):



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Old 8 July 2019, 02:54 PM   #37
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No it’s far too small.
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Old 8 July 2019, 04:08 PM   #38
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I would be interested if someone could confirm the diameter of a 15450 dial vs 15202 or 15300.
I think that they are similar, the +2mm of diameter rather focused on the bezel.
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Old 8 July 2019, 06:35 PM   #39
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I would be interested if someone could confirm the diameter of a 15450 dial vs 15202 or 15300.
I think that they are similar, the +2mm of diameter rather focused on the bezel.

Yes, this discussion of the 15450 having a tiny dial surprises me. I think the dial diameter may not be any smaller than on a Sub or GMT Master. Can someone give us the dimensions across the crystals?
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Old 8 July 2019, 09:29 PM   #40
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Is that the 15450? If so, it does look like a pretty good fit. But yes, as you mentioned the thickness is definitely a downside.


Yes! That one is a 15450. I certainly don’t disagree that it fits well, but the dial size really threw me. I know it’s all about perception but coming from 40mm Rolex, it does look like a significant difference to me. It’s all about what you want but for me the 15450 looked a bit dressier than sporty. A couple more pics of the 450 along with 15202 that my buddy graciously let me try.





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Old 9 July 2019, 02:22 AM   #41
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15450 Looks Fantastic.
Not large and oversize overcompensating.Nice and Elegant.Now Buy what you like and fits.Even if is not the "next thing"
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Old 9 July 2019, 03:28 AM   #42
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Yup. And that's what AP tells their store people to convey to customers as well.
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Old 9 July 2019, 05:21 AM   #43
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Yup. And that's what AP tells their store people to convey to customers as well.

That has not been the case in my interactions with 3 different AP boutiques. They were all happy to sell me a 15450 in early 2018.
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Old 9 July 2019, 06:13 AM   #44
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With AP it's all about settling. You settle for a 41mm or you settle for a 37mm. If you want a perfect fitting SS luxury watch you have to go with Patek or Rolex. Patek is hyper expensive, Rolex is ubiquitous.
I think the 15450 is the preferable choice for anyone whose wrist is smaller than 7".
This is all sadly true. I have tried both and could not warm up to either. The 41mm was just ridiculously large on my 6.75" wrist. The 37mm was actually a perfect size, but the dimensions of the bezel, case thickness and dial size relative to the entire watch just felt so off. I think Rolex really is the master of proportions (except for the DD2 and DJ2). For the record, I have a DJ 36 and I find it a real perfect fit (size wise and proportions) for those looking for a smaller piece.

AP had it really good with the 15300, and unfortunately the 15202 is out of reach for most. Hoping that the new 38mm ROC will be a good sweet spot.
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Old 9 July 2019, 08:14 AM   #45
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That’s what the store manager told me
Maybe you look feminine. and trying to sale you one ; )
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Old 9 July 2019, 09:04 AM   #46
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That has not been the case in my interactions with 3 different AP boutiques. They were all happy to sell me a 15450 in early 2018.
Well, it was with me in the beverly hills boutique back in 2018. They made it clear that the 37mm reference range was for women, presumably b/c they thought I should be wearing a 15400 with my build (despite my smaller wrists).
I didn't listen to them and went on to buy a blue dial 15450 from my guys at the bal harbour boutique, and later sold it b/c it felt off to me. The proportions of the case and the narrow/tapered bracelet just weren't things I could reconcile.
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Old 9 July 2019, 09:06 AM   #47
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This is all sadly true. I have tried both and could not warm up to either. The 41mm was just ridiculously large on my 6.75" wrist. The 37mm was actually a perfect size, but the dimensions of the bezel, case thickness and dial size relative to the entire watch just felt so off. I think Rolex really is the master of proportions (except for the DD2 and DJ2). For the record, I have a DJ 36 and I find it a real perfect fit (size wise and proportions) for those looking for a smaller piece.

AP had it really good with the 15300, and unfortunately the 15202 is out of reach for most. Hoping that the new 38mm ROC will be a good sweet spot.
Agreed.

After owning a 15450 and later a 15400 -- with both feeling off-- I couldn't be happier with the 15202.
It looks fantastic on wrists between 6.5-7.5" IMO
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Old 10 July 2019, 02:25 AM   #48
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Its mainly due to the lack of 15300s for sale and the 15400 being too large for anyone with a wrist under 7 inches
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Old 10 July 2019, 10:07 AM   #49
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The 15450 will never appeal to the masses. It appeals to smaller wrists, but you need to grab everyone to make something “hyped.”
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Old 11 July 2019, 02:49 AM   #50
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Agreed.

After owning a 15450 and later a 15400 -- with both feeling off-- I couldn't be happier with the 15202.
It looks fantastic on wrists between 6.5-7.5" IMO
the 15202 is not a great fit for people with smaller wrist though, which is those who would be cross shopping the 15450. The 15202 while smaller has more outward pointing lugs, think it may actually fit less well than the 15400 if you ignore the thickness. It doesn't hug the wrist.
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Old 11 July 2019, 05:15 AM   #51
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This really is a case of Goldilocks, and the "perfect" fit is 10K more, and has its own downsides too.

Push come to shove, I'd rather go bigger than smaller, especially since oversize is kind of AP's thing anyways.
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Old 14 July 2019, 03:17 AM   #52
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Question ... with the 41mm recently refreshed with the 15500 ... when do we think the 37mm size will get a model refresh?

It seems the old 41mm and current 37mm were released around the same time in 2012..
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ex...mm-and-15450-3

Could a 37mm refresh be around the corner?
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Question ... with the 41mm recently refreshed with the 15500 ... when do we think the 37mm size will get a model refresh?

It seems the old 41mm and current 37mm were released around the same time in 2012..
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ex...mm-and-15450-3

Could a 37mm refresh be around the corner?
Actually that's a pretty important question. If they can fix the proportions of the 37mm so that the bezel is thinner like the 15500 vs. 15400, then it'll look better. Right now the same bezel and smaller case size + same thickness is the issue with the 15450.
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Actually that's a pretty important question. If they can fix the proportions of the 37mm so that the bezel is thinner like the 15500 vs. 15400, then it'll look better. Right now the same bezel and smaller case size + same thickness is the issue with the 15450.
Yep, I have tried on the 15450 a couple of times but I can't bring myself to pull the trigger. If they make the case thinner and bezel smaller in a model refresh ... I might be a buyer. Make it 36mm too? ... then definitely a buyer!
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Old 16 July 2019, 01:14 PM   #55
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I pondered about getting my first Ap for quite some time. Taking a break from Rolex for a change. And after reading all the threads...

I finally pulled the trigger.
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Old 16 July 2019, 03:19 PM   #56
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question ... With the 41mm recently refreshed with the 15500 ... When do we think the 37mm size will get a model refresh?

It seems the old 41mm and current 37mm were released around the same time in 2012..
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ex...mm-and-15450-3

could a 37mm refresh be around the corner?
sihh 2020....?
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Old 16 July 2019, 03:53 PM   #57
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I pondered about getting my first Ap for quite some time. Taking a break from Rolex for a change. And after reading all the threads...



I finally pulled the trigger.


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Congrats so good
Thank you. Loving the watch. Highly appreciate the guidance from the AP threads.

I am pleasantly surprised with the time-keeping and build quality.
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Old 16 July 2019, 06:21 PM   #59
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I don't think there's any right or wrong or incorrect choice, its all down to personal preference and to a degree what you're used to seeing. Nowadays I'm used to big watches and can't imagine myself wearing anything smaller than a 41, it just looks too small - to me.

However many years ago, before I was in the fortunate position of being able to obtain higher end pieces, the watches I had were smaller, such as the TAG Heuer 6000 series, which to me then looked perfect. But now it would look (to me) too small.
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Old 22 July 2019, 05:02 AM   #60
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