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Old 10 July 2019, 11:13 AM   #31
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I'm calling BS... I just made a post about being a new customer and getting a Sub Date and Batman within the span of two months. I think it is more about getting with the right AD.


And/or the market you are in. For example, great AD and SA out in Seattle. However, tough to compete with Amazon/Microsoft $


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Old 10 July 2019, 11:17 AM   #32
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How so? They are paying higher than ever for their inventory. The big scores are if they get a Daytona or GMT for MSRP and then flip for double.
I think they're buying from ADs all the gold unsaleable pieces with nice discounts and paying retail or slighly more for the hot pieces.

I could be wrong, but it's the only explanation in my mind.
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Old 10 July 2019, 11:25 AM   #33
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The fairest way from the customer’s perspective is to have the wait list serviced in order without games.

The fairest way from the dealer’s perspective is to sell the watch at market price.

We all know what “building a relationship” really means. At least these guys tell you what you need to do, instead of having to take them out to dinner hope you get a watch at the end of the evening if you play it real smooth.

There’s nothing more unfair to an AD than a customer walking out the store with more money than when they walked in. That’s basically stealing as far as the AD is concerned.

There’s nothing more unfair to an AD than a customer walking out the store with more money than when they walked in. That’s basically stealing as far as the AD is concerned.

The AD is then in a very unique situation, claiming to be a theft victim while profiting from a sale at MSRP under terms they agreed upon with the manufacturer.
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Old 10 July 2019, 11:40 AM   #34
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It stings to buy a piece for twice retail when it’s still in production.

On the other side of the fence it probably stings to sell at 50% of market price when Jerry Flippington can double his money out the door.

The market abhors the kind of arbitrage that’s happening at the moment, and it’s entirely predictable that the authorised market is going to find a way to close the gap. I’d have thought Rolex fans would love to see the spirit of the free market in action!
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Old 10 July 2019, 12:31 PM   #35
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Lets be honest if dealers had to sell watches to whoever was next on the list then flippers would just call every dealer in the country and get a place on every list .
Having prior purchases from a dealer and purchases that are not all the exact same type of Hard to get steel sports watches will put a dealer at ease and increase your chances of getting what you want
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Old 10 July 2019, 12:39 PM   #36
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Lets be honest if dealers had to sell watches to whoever was next on the list then flippers would just call every dealer in the country and get a place on every list .

Having prior purchases from a dealer and purchases that are not all the exact same type of Hard to get steel sports watches will put a dealer at ease and increase your chances of getting what you want

This is unacceptable to the ‘everyone deserves a SS sports Rolex at MSRP’ squad.

To be fair, what makes things so frustrating and unacceptable is that ADs are all different.

What you say may work at some, but not at others. There’s simply no consistent standard as to who should be able to purchase one.

Some ADs clearly do it first come first serve, some require some form of relationship building, and some outright bundling.

And a lot of this is also influenced by the sort or corporate entity that owns the AD, and what other goods they sell.

The ultimate source of frustration is that there simply aren’t enough of the popular models to go around.

The second one is not knowing what to expect from AD to AD.


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Old 10 July 2019, 12:46 PM   #37
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Lets be honest if dealers had to sell watches to whoever was next on the list then flippers would just call every dealer in the country and get a place on every list .
Having prior purchases from a dealer and purchases that are not all the exact same type of Hard to get steel sports watches will put a dealer at ease and increase your chances of getting what you want
Either the “reputation building” costs less than the potential profit from the arbitrage, in which case the most rebuttable customers will be grey dealers, or it costs more, and the dealer has succeeded in squeezing out their cut of the pie.

Dealers are a business there to make money, not your friend.
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