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Old 31 August 2019, 08:35 AM   #31
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I just lost my last interest to log on this forum anymore
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Old 31 August 2019, 08:40 AM   #32
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Old 31 August 2019, 08:51 AM   #33
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Looks good to me. Not seeing what you are seeing. Hope you enjoy the watch.
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Old 31 August 2019, 08:59 AM   #34
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I see it, but it’s so infinitesimal that I wouldn’t worry about it. I wonder if I’d think differently if it was my watch though. Still, probably not.


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Old 31 August 2019, 09:04 AM   #35
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I guess I can kinda see it? I wouldn't lose sleep over it though. Enjoy that pepsi brotha!
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Old 31 August 2019, 09:09 AM   #36
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My bezel ring is slightly off on my Sub. I don’t notice it anymore, especially since I use the bezel a lot.


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Old 31 August 2019, 09:25 AM   #37
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All looks within tolerance, although perhaps off by microns.

Expecting paint, indents, and stampings to all be put together from different sources and align perfectly is a fruitless task.

Of course, there is no real relationship between the outer 24 hr bezel and the inner 12 hr dial, except that they both give us an approximation of time, separately.

A wrist watch is not really considered a precision instrument.
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Old 31 August 2019, 09:41 AM   #38
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Looks good to me. Not seeing what you are seeing. Hope you enjoy the watch.


My thought as well...
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Old 31 August 2019, 09:56 AM   #39
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Here’s a trick I learned when I thought my bezels were misaligned. Spin the watch upside down. I.e. spin the watch around so that you are looking at the 12:00 at the bottom (crown will now be on the left). How does the bezel triangle look at that position? Is it still off center to the same direction, towards the 1:00? Or is it now off center towards the 11:00? If it’s now off center to the other side then that means it’s likely your eyes, one is stronger than the other and it makes it appear off center.
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Old 31 August 2019, 10:54 AM   #40
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I can’t tell if it’s misaligned even from the close up photo. However, I do see another misalignment. I hope it doesn’t bother you that I’m pointing it out. The triangular 12:00 marker on the dial is aligned more towards the left of the 59 second tick mark than to the right of the 1 second tick mark. Also, is that dust on the dial?
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Old 31 August 2019, 11:57 AM   #41
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:13 PM   #42
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:25 PM   #43
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I don’t see anything wrong with it...
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:50 PM   #44
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The 12:00 triangle on the bezel not lining up might just be the angle of the photo. It’s very easy for the bezel to appear off center depending on a slight change in angle, or which eye you are looking at it with. I’ve found that some of my bezels have appeared misaligned because my right eye is stronger than my left eye. When wearing my glasses the bezel is aligned, when not wearing glasses it’s misaligned.

Funny thing is all these years with my previous black Sub before I got glasses I thought the bezel was perfectly aligned, and some of my others were misaligned. Got glasses and realized the damn black Sub was off center and the others were aligned!
Yes, I fully agree I discovered the same effect on my GMT and Sub.
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:50 PM   #45
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So if you look at these photos, you can clearly see the arrow on the bezel at 12:00 doesn’t line up with the crown or the 12:00 lume plot

But looking even further. At 1800hrs the colour transition line is lower than the 9:00 marker. Meaning if the arrow was corrected to the left, the alignment at 1800hrs would be off.


Is this normal? Or an overall design flaw on Rolex end. I’m assuming perfect alignment isn’t possible simply because of the size difference in diameter of the dial and bezel

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Hi Andre. Yes, I can see what you are talking about, I’m surprised some others can’t. But, then again, some people like to say the opposite just to be difficult. It makes me laugh also when someone posts a simple observation in the, often, vein attempt just to ask if anyone else has noticed this, only to be told, quite condescendingly, ‘not to worry about it’ - like it’s keeping you awake at night. From your post, I didn’t get the feeling you were worried about it, simply noting something you have noticed when admiring your beautiful watch.

I liked the answer by ‘Tools’. He makes some great feedback. He echos what my Oris manual states (to paraphrase) ‘If you want or need to know the exact time, this watch probably ain’t for you’

Anyway, enjoy the watch, ‘flaws’ and all, brother.
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:53 PM   #46
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welcome to the world of Rolex 'tolerance'
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:55 PM   #47
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:55 PM   #48
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I’m not seeing it Andre ... enjoy your blro, it’s a beauty
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:56 PM   #49
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It is normal.
Yes, it’s is completely normal and acceptable to have flaws like this!
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Old 31 August 2019, 12:59 PM   #50
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Some people should be banned from buying loupes. If you are looking for perfection don’t buy any high end watch not least a Rolex, if you are looking for precision buy a Casio.

Put the loupes down folks and enjoy the watch
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Old 31 August 2019, 01:13 PM   #51
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I can see what you mean quite clearly. It doesnt appear to be just a result of the insert slightly misaligned in the bezel.... as as often the case when i swap out inserts on my 5 digit.

In any case it is an interesting observation. 9k$ watch, several years of R&D on the bezel, one would expect higher tolerances on this (given mass produced watches <1k$ get this right)

This annoys the heck out of me on my 5 digit as often times im in 30 min multiple timezones and these tiny deltas do make a difference
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Old 31 August 2019, 01:26 PM   #52
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Perfect alignment is expected from watches at these prices. They are precision instruments and should exhibit world class manufacturing. I buy into the Rolex mystique all the way despite mass production of references, but the idea that manufacturing flaws should be ignored, “un-seen”, or accepted is nonsense.
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Old 31 August 2019, 01:39 PM   #53
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There is a certain amount of visual balancing made by Rolex on these GMT bezels.

To begin with, the numerals on the bezels use proportional spacing. This dictates choices like the red/blue color split - or a blue/black for that matter. As already explained by another post, the color changeover occurs at the midpoint of the space occupied by the numerals “6”&”18”.

On the triangle, it is placed equidistant between the dots on either side of it.

Remember these bezels aren’t designed to the tolerance needed in something like a Daytona’s chapter ring (where it’s designed to time to a tenth of a second).

A GMT bezel is graduated to indicate the hour in a different time zone.


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Old 31 August 2019, 04:18 PM   #54
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OP I can see what you have pointed out. It looks like the photo isn’t exactly head on however, which may make things look worse than they actually are.

I’d accept the bezel colour changes. I think the spacing of numbers and having the colour change central to the 6/18 takes precedence here rather than lining up with the inner dial markings. I think that’s probably the correct thing to do as it may look worse if it were the other way round.

I think the alignment of everything at 12 isn’t really acceptable. IMO the bezel should line up exactly, and as someone else has pointed out, the 12 triangle isn’t central between 59 and 01 seconds. A little sloppy and disappointing I’d say.

If it were me, not sure that I’d want to dedicate the time and effort to resolve such minor issue. Probably just wear the watch and enjoy it, leave it until service time and maybe the RSC could correct at this stage.

What I find ironic is members of another group I am part of complain about bezel misalignment on a <£200 watch, or celebrate if they’re lucky enough to get one that is perfectly aligned. It seems the consensus on here is these flaws should be accepted, despite the fact we’re talking Rolex which is a luxury brand costing several thousand £s/$s and has a reputation built on making precision time pieces...
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Old 31 August 2019, 04:30 PM   #55
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the only flaw I see in the Pepsi is the dearth of availability from an AD.
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Old 1 September 2019, 12:00 AM   #56
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I agree!
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Old 1 September 2019, 12:19 AM   #57
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the color transition line being off is normal... i think they choose a less noticeable area within the number so thats standard. my batman is like that too.

re the rehaut though, i noticed that the hour markers dont exactly center over the R on the left and X on the right. may explain why you get the visual that the entire dial is off at the top. i am wondering if this was just poorly installed and can be easily adjuster. you got this from AD? new?
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Old 1 September 2019, 12:41 AM   #58
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Yes. I’ve seen this on many BLROs


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Old 1 September 2019, 02:42 AM   #59
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My GMT CHNR was quite off and pointed it out to my AD who agreed and sent to to RSC and they agreed that it needed aligning


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Old 1 September 2019, 02:48 AM   #60
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