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Old 6 September 2019, 12:41 AM   #31
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They are creeping up, but better relative to the doubling now evident with the 6 digits.

And sorry, the new bracelets (I have one) FEEL better, but are not actually stronger. Remember it’s the pins that hold them together. The light weight actually serves to keep the watch weight down as they were tools. Now the 6 digit references which are primarily jewelry, people want the heft as they associate that with value. Pure marketing gimmick. I am one of the few here that do everything and I mean everything with my Rolex, the lighter weight means my watch is not flopping around so much. My 16610 has 4 fine adjustments on it. I have never had a problem getting a stellar fit.


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Good comment, but I feel the light bracelet combined with a heavy watch head (16600 for me) is specifically what makes it flop around. Could not find the right adjustment.
Love the new easylink feature (hear the even better glidelock is awesome!)
I do agree tho, the new models are more fashion and luxury items.
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:02 AM   #32
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One word 'Omega'

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I tried that, it didn't work for me. Now I have an unworn Seamaster 300 sub sitting in the safe..

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Old 6 September 2019, 01:15 AM   #33
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I have no doubts omega makes an amazing product. The only thing is that if your heart is set on a certain piece and you try to fill it with something different, it’s bound to be a bandaid fix.




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Old 6 September 2019, 01:45 AM   #34
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Feeling blue to have the listed price ready but there's literally no ss sports model available at any ad. the situation is very frustrating...
This is news to you?
The grey market is for people who don’t have the AD relationships so perhaps save a bit longer and go grey? Or maybe switch to another brand?
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:46 AM   #35
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I have no doubts omega makes an amazing product. The only thing is that if your heart is set on a certain piece and you try to fill it with something different, it’s bound to be a bandaid fix.




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That's the Rolex marketing working, right there...
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:51 AM   #36
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Excellent opportunity to look at and try on some beautiful and excellent watches from Tudor, Omega, JLC or perhaps some pre-owned pieces.
Ture words indeed

My last three watches were Tudor-Tudor-Omega

There is a wonderful world of Swiss watches out there beyond Rolex. This is a great time to explore the other options and let the hype-train roll on past
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:52 AM   #37
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Yep I got tired of waiting also, and I am fed up with the current Rolex climate. In the mean time I decided to pull the trigger on something else, and I love it.
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Old 6 September 2019, 02:29 AM   #38
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It's times like these that make a Rolex in the wild more exciting to see. I'd keep striving for a Rolex
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Old 6 September 2019, 03:10 AM   #39
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I tried that, it didn't work for me. Now I have an unworn Seamaster 300 sub sitting in the safe..

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That is a shame, you should sell it and move on
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Old 6 September 2019, 03:57 AM   #40
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There are DJ, YM, AK to be had with relative ease; these beautiful pieces beat the shopping mall brands by a mile in value retention.

With the number of people who want to get into Rolex; I have a feeling even the DJ or YM will eventually be hot commodities in a few years. So it's a good time now to get these models; the purchasing of these could also serve as your gateway into building a relationship with the AD.
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Old 6 September 2019, 04:02 AM   #41
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Even in Switzerland? lol
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Old 6 September 2019, 04:12 AM   #42
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They are creeping up, but better relative to the doubling now evident with the 6 digits.

And sorry, the new bracelets (I have one) FEEL better, but are not actually stronger. Remember it’s the pins that hold them together. The light weight actually serves to keep the watch weight down as they were tools. Now the 6 digit references which are primarily jewelry, people want the heft as they associate that with value. Pure marketing gimmick. I am one of the few here that do everything and I mean everything with my Rolex, the lighter weight means my watch is not flopping around so much. My 16610 has 4 fine adjustments on it. I have never had a problem getting a stellar fit.
Yeah what Chester01 says, X2.

Nothing wrong with the older bracelets.There is nothing inferior with their strength, fit nor quality.
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Old 6 September 2019, 05:28 AM   #43
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That's the Rolex marketing working, right there...
That's not Rolex marketing. That's everything we buy. If we buy another product instead of the one we actually want we'll never be happy. Watches, cars, bikes, etc.

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Old 6 September 2019, 05:59 AM   #44
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That is a shame, you should sell it and move on
I will. At least I didn't buy it from a boutique. Grey dealer with a discount.

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Old 6 September 2019, 06:05 AM   #45
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lets STOP buying from GREY

Lets boycott ROLEX for good

they can keep there hulks, batman or pepsi. its not a mission critical or life saving requirement.
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:07 AM   #46
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I see Rolex two-tones at AD's just about everywhere. Based on grey pricing for sport/professional SS models, consider a Rolser for about the same dollars--purchased directly from an authorized Rolex Dealer and have a higher level of confidence in what your actually buying.
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:21 AM   #47
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I have to say, I have seen a lot more Omega's being sported. Speedmasters and Seasmasters, especially.

They have even increased their prices more recently.
I am wearing a new Planet Ocean Chronograph Master Chronometer because of its movement and execution of the watch as I already own all the Rolex watches I want. Omega is crushing it with their Master Chronometer line of movements.



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Old 6 September 2019, 06:22 AM   #48
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I tried that, it didn't work for me. Now I have an unworn Seamaster 300 sub sitting in the safe..

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I second this. I have a 2 month new model seamaster that technically is BETTER than the submariner thats been in the safe for the last week now..it just doesnt say 'Rolex' every time I look at it and I dont mean that in a pretentious way..I can't explain it
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:36 AM   #49
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I second this. I have a 2 month new model seamaster that technically is BETTER than the submariner thats been in the safe for the last week now..it just doesnt say 'Rolex' every time I look at it and I dont mean that in a pretentious way..I can't explain it
No I get that. I am at a different place with Rolex because after 30 years of Rolex ownership the brand name means very little to me now. I love the watches but the Rolex look and advancements feels stagnate to me. Rolex has become too conservative in the last 10 years and just isn’t advancing their movements or styles enough for me. I don’t value a Rolex watch above their msrp and even then I usually paid less than msrp on now hot models like the LVC.
The recent SS shortage feels even more artificial and doesn’t enhance the brand to me at this stage in my watch collecting. I am almost getting that late 80’s status seeking yuppie vibe with the current climate Rolex has cultivated. I love horological history and innovation so that element pulls me to more than just the Rolex brand. There is a huge world of watches out there with exceptional historical pedigrees older and more significant than Rolex so why limit to a one brand collection.
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:44 AM   #50
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That's not Rolex marketing. That's everything we buy. If we buy another product instead of the one we actually want we'll never be happy. Watches, cars, bikes, etc.

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True dat. I have yet heard anyone say: "oh I could have ordered a Porsche Macan Turbo but I got a Chevy Cruze instead and guess what? the Cruze is just as fantastic as the Macan so I am never looking back!"
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:47 AM   #51
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That's not Rolex marketing. That's everything we buy. If we buy another product instead of the one we actually want we'll never be happy. Watches, cars, bikes, etc.

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It was tongue-in-cheek.

If you’re being that granular about the psychology of it, yes, if you’ve set the bar for one thing and get something else, the itch won’t be scratched.

It’s the marketing that sets the interest, though, in the first place.
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Old 6 September 2019, 06:56 AM   #52
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I am wearing a new Planet Ocean Chronograph Master Chronometer because of its movement and execution of the watch as I already own all the Rolex watches I want. Omega is crushing it with their Master Chronometer line of movements.





That is a beautiful watch, congrats. And they are fantastic photos!
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Old 6 September 2019, 07:25 AM   #53
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I am wearing a new Planet Ocean Chronograph Master Chronometer because of its movement and execution of the watch as I already own all the Rolex watches I want. Omega is crushing it with their Master Chronometer line of movements.



I've been eyeing a Speedmaster Racing White Dial for a while and these pictures of your POC is really convincing me to finally go get one (same movement).

Beautiful timepiece!
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Old 6 September 2019, 07:35 AM   #54
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And you are from Switzerland?

You are kidding.
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Old 6 September 2019, 07:44 AM   #55
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Excellent opportunity to look at and try on some beautiful and excellent watches from Tudor, Omega, JLC or perhaps some pre-owned pieces.
+1

I have bought my first Tudor, 2 omegas , and three JLC’s the past two years with the Rolex shortage. Definitely pushed me to look at other brands.
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I've been eyeing a Speedmaster Racing White Dial for a while and these pictures of your POC is really convincing me to finally go get one (same movement).

Beautiful timepiece!
Go for it. I put the cal.9900 movement through all kinds of tests. By far, it is the most high performing automatic movement I have ever tested. The accuracy and amplitude of the power reserve blows everything else out of the water. 65 hours of power reserve (5hr above spec) but the shocker is the accuracy it kept during the power reserve test with perfect time keeping 64 of the 65 hours. That is unheard of amount of stability in a automatic movement. Most modern automatics show some deviation 24 hours into their power reserve and then accuracy goes down hill after 36 hours even if it has a 70hr Power Reserve.

Here is the deal with Rolex for me as I don’t want to come off dumping on a great reliable watch that I own. The Rolex Sub is a great $8500.00 dive watch as it was accurately msrp. The rub is, it’s lousy $17k SS Dive watch. The current market makes it a $50 box of Cornflakes siting next to a $2.50 box of Wheaties cereal.
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Old 6 September 2019, 07:50 AM   #57
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Old 6 September 2019, 11:37 AM   #58
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Speedy pro.

Iconic as any Rolex, easy to find, and much more affordable.

Get the Hesalite.
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I am wearing a new Planet Ocean Chronograph Master Chronometer because of its movement and execution of the watch as I already own all the Rolex watches I want. Omega is crushing it with their Master Chronometer line of movements.



Oh wow, that's a really beautiful pic

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Honestly If you cannot find a Rolex dealer that will take your money in Switzerland of all places just move on and buy something else. This is meant to be a luxury purchase. Begging ruins it.
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