i just rang 8 seperate AD's

[petay993]

Unfortunately the UK is cheap at the moment for overseas buyers given the state of the pound and tax refunds.

I also think there seems to be a big difference between UK and US Greys. You stateside guys should take a good look at Mark Worthington or Watchfinder web site prices and you will quickly see that buying an in demand SS Sports model from a grey dealer this side of the pond will involve huge mark ups even on Subs.

[askdanny]

Originally Posted by fly4food84

It's all relationship... I just bought a Daytona from AD and Submariner within 2 week period (different ADs).

I'm so happy for you!

[Fleetlord]

What is the point of this?

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

What is the point of this?

you dont seem happy with my posts or threads

can you direct me to one of yours please?

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by timedate

i have got what i want already, my daydate, it was really a spare 45 mins i had, and i was just seeing if there was that chance, that there was 30 months ago, maybe flip one myself, but i wont be driving anywhere to try, i am content, just sharing the experience however irrelevant people perceive it to be.

So you’re a flipper?
They qualified you perfectly then

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by timedate

you dont seem happy with my posts or threads

can you direct me to one of yours please?

Fleetlord tells it like it is. You cold called eight dealers and got exactly the response that was expected.

[brandrea]

Not surprised at all.

[Marcjvr]

Originally Posted by timedate

i would rather buy a mickey mouse watch than buy from the grey market.

Just for you

[cbalster]

Call 8 dealers and say you bought a GMT 2 years ago and are interested in selling it and let us know if the tone changes.

[Mr.Rolex1]

I concur

[watchmework]

This isn’t surprising as others have said, you may have a slightly different response if you went in person but in all reality it’s likely a waste of your time.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Marcjvr

Just for you

Attachment 1068476

thankyou very much, it looks superb.

[daveo5]

This is a “dead” topic. Constant refrain “no sports models”. Time to move on. As for ‘grey’ every watch I’ve bought for the past 25 years has been grey or preowned. I enjoy vintage over the latest and newest. Just one man’s opinion.


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[ian.thomas]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

What is the point of this?

I was just about to post the same question. How is this a real topic?

[Navarino]

Calling around asking for any SS sports models available is not a good way to get any kind of productive or hopeful response from an AD. I get why you do it, but I think it's a flawed measurement of testing the current state of the market.

You'll have a much better chance at stopping by a physical store, engaging in some casual conversation, and explaining to a sales person what you're interested in. Obviously stopping by in-person vs. calling for something like a Daytona or Pepsi is not going to make a difference at all. However, for some of the other SS professional models that have become harder to acquire recently (e.g., Exp 2, Sub, etc.) you might be surprised how much better traction you have by discussing in-person and showing serious interest in a particular watch.

[Moggo]

Maybe do it again and tell them you are ‘insert celebrity’s name here’ agent and the response might be slightly different.

Failing that, you have compromising pictures of the manager and would like to chat about Rolex availability!


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[dayman]

i like this, try again tomorrow

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

What is the point of this?

I’m inclined to agree. Were you expecting to call 8 ADs, and have each respond that, yes, they do have hard to find models available for immediate sale?

[Buzzlite]

There not hard to get, they keep them in the back safe and only give to vip or celebrity

[Robtayham]

Seriously though, making random phones asking about any SS sports model? That reeks of a waste of time. Go into any luxury good stores and keep asking about the lack of availability of their most popular product, and see what they say. It will be the same response.

If you want to buy a watch, step up and buy it. Otherwise, stay on the sidelines and keep quite.

[ArtNouveau]

Although it's certainly not the "hottest" model, I watched a brand new black dial DSSD go from the coffin to the case today at my dealer.

[Fat_ninja]

I’m going to hold off then going to the Rolex AD then

[Stx]

In the last few weeks I've visited and called 8 stores in my area of the states. Visits definitely work better although when I am in the area and honestly say I'm trying to avoid a drive over the conversation goes well. One dealer last week had just received a Daytona that was on display. Yesterday I looked at a new bicolor GMT that came in the day before. My impression is most dealers are taking lists based on local customers. The others just put it out as they get it. Not a one had interest in selling to someone over the phone from out of the area. Btw, I wanted to like the bicolor GMT, was there for me, but the bracelet just was too rich looking to wear where I often am. Excellent colors on the case, bezel, and face. My thought is, if I can't every day it, leave it for someone that will. Although, now that I look back at the pictures, maybe I should call back on it, lovely piece.

[cheekybird]

The chase is what it's all about.

[scorpiojai]

Originally Posted by cheekybird

The chase is what it's all about.

Bingo


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[WatchLurv]

The phone USED to work. Now they simply wont entertain it.

Supply is still choked. The only way for it to make a balance is if the world collapses, then we should hopefully see more on display. Mind you, I'll probably be picking up for 500K in steel and sit on it. See where that takes me.

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by timedate

To get a feel for the market, 2 and a half years after buying my gmt, which was pretty hard to get at the time, but not impossible, after hearing people say that it is getting easier to source one,

The response was a resounding no to any chance whatsoever of an SS sports model,

Not, half a chance, or if you come immediately today, or its possible on monday, just an outright zero chance, one AD said its a hundred times worse than 2 and a half years ago.


So there it is. But you knew that anyway.

With a million watches produced each year, there are no shortages of Rolex. And with prices on the aftermarket so high, AD's want in on that game. Every AD sells hot models to grey dealers out the back door at premiums, along with a bunch of two tones to seal the deal. That's why you see tons of unworn steel sports at every grey dealer around the world. VVIP's are second, then the average guy on the wait list might be third, as they sprinkle in the average guy from time to time, hence the 2 year wait list. Thats how the AD business works brother, and it is just business. Sorry

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by Marcjvr

Just for you

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lol at least it's not a Zenith!

[Likestheshiny]

imagine being that arrogant, that 'they express their annoyance' when hundreds of people ring them, wanting to buy their products,

they can stick their elusive products where the sun never shines.

Imagine the arrogance of customers who know that a product isn't casually available and yet phone a pile of ADs to see if one is casually available.

It's not the ADs' fault that there aren't any watches out there. Wasting their time isn't going to make watches magically appear.

[mfm22]

Without an established relationship it is pointless calling AD's .

I was called last month after asking [ in person ] to be thought of if and when - they did

I picked up said watch and again politely requested consideration when X or Y became available

note * I mentioned Specific popular models that I would not be interested in. Effectively letting them know that I'm not likely looking to flip said watch